Das Büro des polnischen Präsidenten erklärt, warum Mussolini und Schröder den Orden des Weißen Adlers behalten
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/22/7240134/
Von Shadmelor
Das Büro des polnischen Präsidenten erklärt, warum Mussolini und Schröder den Orden des Weißen Adlers behalten
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/22/7240134/
Von Shadmelor
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Officials from the office of Polish President Karol Nawrocki have attempted to explain why Poland’s highest state decoration, the Order of the White Eagle – which was stripped from Volodymyr Zelenskyy – is still held by former Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, Russian empress Catherine II (the „Great“) and former German chancellor and „friend of the Kremlin“ Gerhard Schröder.
„The first two have long been deceased, and Poland does not revoke the Order posthumously. The former German chancellor, meanwhile, has never insulted the Polish nation as overtly as the Ukrainian president has, though his activities in support of Putin’s Russia must be condemned as harmful to Poland and Europe,“ [Agnieszka Jędrzak](https://x.com/ajedrzak/status/2068708438322942112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2068708438322942112%7Ctwgr%5Ee1136a16169bb098aa76aba457975d94c0dfd107%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmf24.pl%2Fpolityka%2Fnews-dosadna-odpowiedz-na-zlosliwosci-zelenskiego-trzy-lata-temu-nId8091040), a minister in the Chancellery of the President of Poland, said.
Poland’s Cold War heroes must be proud that they elected a Russian plant.
The fact that the President’s Office is portraying Zelensky as worse than Schröder – a key figure in establishing Nord Stream 1 and one of the most pro-Russian people on the planet – is very telling.
What a pos. schröder literally works for russia .
I can’t believe Poland elected this dumbass
>we cannot revoke a medal posthumously
I don’t know if they know it,but orders and medals are not set in bedrock and thus can be changed at will. If you don’t want to do that,it means you like Mussolini more or less
He shouldn’t have answered that question. It looks worse for him to defend that decision.
He has now opened the Pandora’s box by revoking Zelensky’s Order. Now anyone is open to having theirs revoked.
I understand not wanting to upset our allies, Germany and Italy, so maybe we should talk to them about it. But I absolutely believe we *should* revoke those „dishonourable“ Orders, especially for people who lead wars against us, like Mussolini.
Dead or alive, it doesn’t matter. They can keep it in a museum or whatever, but it has to be crossed out of the list and the museum has to keep it described as revoked. We can ceremonially split it in two and keep it displayed that way, as a symbol of it’s invalidity.
Schroder works for russia he also is a close friend of putin
What a performative waste of time this is.
Nawrocki literally said Zelensky works against Polish interests while Mussolini did not. Insane.
why tf did schröder even get one in the first place?
Letting someone who was partly responsible for the partitioning of Poland (and thereby erasing it from the maps) keep said country’s highest award is like negative IQ-levels of stupid.
Poland stripped Brezhnev and Serov of their titles posthumously. Brezhnev in 1990, and Serov in 1995. And suddenly you can’t revoke Orders.
Rules can be changed if theres a political will, but if theres no political gain why would they do anything right. I mean mass murderer can remain on the list of honourary recipients of this order which obviously holds very high standards. Putin loves this wouldnt be surprised if Nawrocki gives him Zelenskys medal as a token of friendship.
Poland stripped Brezhnev (1990) and Serov (1995) of their titles posthumously but suddenly you can’t revoke orders posthumously.
Mussolini does not need to be dug out for his medal to be revoked its matter of bureaucracy where the president and prime minister need to sign peace of paper. If Zelensky refused this when it was actually given imagine polish reaction then.
Mussolini was directly at fault for 11000 polish soldiers killed by his nazi allies at Monte Casino.
I pressume massacres are also ok as long as they were not polish civilians. Some fine standards that honor and medal keep.
The recipient of the polish eagle and holder of their medal to this day, Benito Mussolini was directly responsible for major massacres of civilians and war crimes. The only reason why he wasnt sentenced as war criminal was because Italians shot him and hanged him before it was over.
Mussolini’s regime actively planned and executed brutal campaigns of ethnic cleansing, mass executions, and they use of banned weapons against civilian populations.
Mussolini launched a brutal invasion of Ethiopia where he personally authorized the widespread use of mustard gas and phosgene bombs against both soldiers and rural villages, violating the Geneva Protocol.
Following a failed assassination attempt on Italian Viceroy Rodolfo Graziani in Addis Ababa, Italian forces embarked on a three-day slaughter. Historians estimate that between **19,000 and 30,000** Ethiopian civilians were shot, clubbed, or burned alive in their homes.**(The Yekatit 12 Massacre (1937)**
Italian troops summarily executed over 2,000 monks, priests, and pilgrims at this historic monastery, falsely accusing them of harboring rebels.**(Debre Libanos Massacre)**
During the „Pacification of Libya“ in the late 1920s and early 1930s, Mussolini’s government engaged in systematic ethnic cleansing to crush the local Senussi resistance.
Roughly **100,000 Libyan civilians** nearly half the population of the Cyrenaica region were forcibly marched into brutal concentration camps.
Starvation, forced labor, and disease killed an estimated **40,000 to 70,000** of the interned civilians.
During World War II, Mussolini’s forces occupied parts of Yugoslavia, Albania, and Greece, implementing a policy of savage collective punishment.
„Kill Everyone“ orders by Italian General Mario Roatta issued the infamous „Circular 3C“ order, which mirrored Mussolini’s demand for absolute ruthlessness. The directive stated, „Not tooth for a tooth, but a head for a tooth.“
Entire villages were burned to the ground, and tens of thousands of civilians were executed or sent to Italian-run concentration camps (such as the Rab concentration camp in Croatia), where thousands starved to death.
Why are they upset he sent back the medal by courrier? What should he do? Go to Warsaw to have an official humiliation ceremony?
What a circus
Another insane communication win for Zelensky. This man is like the Messi of international diplomacy.
This whole situation is cringe.
My dumbass read Schrodinger and I was confused why people were angry on some physicist
This is how digging your own hole looks like.
Zelensky does not have to say a word, the far right Polish wing does everything themselves. Like they do everywhere.
I am a Ukrainian, originally from Volyn region. My grandfather’s family were victims of one of the UPA paramilitaries. They were Ukrainians.
I could very easily choose to be offended every time I hear the words UPA. I could very easily choose to be offended by Zelenskyi’s action here. I would have very good reason to. Better even than many Poles, who don’t share this experience with UPA on a personal level.
But I don’t, because I don’t like to invent intent where there clearly isn’t one. I don’t like to pretend that naming something after UPA is glorifying that faction which killed my grandfather’s family. I don’t choose to interpret the naming of the battalion who fight russian invaders after the most effective paramilitaries who were fighting soviet invaders as an insult to me and my family.
I can hold several ideas in my head at the same time. One of them is that UPA killed people in my family lineage. Another idea is that UPA were fighting for the freedom that my ancestors dreamt about against three occupational forces – germans, russians and poles. Another idea is that as a Ukrainian I have been hearing how we have a „nazi problem“ for more than a decade now from people in countries where far right has been quickly gaining electoral victories. And another one that proper reflection on own history is a great thing to do when you have climbed high enough on the pyramid of needs. Expecting that people in the middle of nothing smaller than the most consequential fight for their own survival construct that perfect version of history is kind of childish
And I think all of those complexities above can be true at the same time.
Russian bots working overtime here
Polacy nie będą wybierali patronów ukraińskich ulic he said in the past, lol. Guess he named that they will instead choose Ukrainian battalions names.
I’m Polish and I’m embarrassed beyond imagination. So let me get this straight: we don’t revoke orders posthumously. Fine, let’s change that, it’s literally just a decision. And Schroder, the man who built Putin’s gas pipeline while Poland was screaming warnings for years, somehow insulted us less than Zelensky naming a military unit? The guy defending his country against ruzzia, that f*cking ruzzia, is less worthy of the order than Putin’s favorite German lobbyist? The mental gymnastics required to reach that conclusion should qualify as an Olympic sport. This argument is so tortured it’s painful to read as a Pole.
Idiot literally walked into a trap and fell for it!
I’m sorry but if fucking Schroeder has this medal then maybe this medal won’t worth that much. It’s a constant complaint about complaint about how Russia schemes with Germany against Poland and it’s a big talking point with this dudes target audience. This German/russian scheming is personified as Schroeder. If he keeps this medal, it invalidates any point this idiot makes.
Boil it down to being an easily offended nationalist with limited powers to ‚punish‘ foreigners.