I understood he had to wait until the last possible second to make himself a lame duck, but he waited past it.
blues111 on
This is true…although I would probably not vote for Harris again (at least in a primary) she did come super close to an electoral college victory losing PA, MI, and WI by only 230k votes I also think if Biden stayed on Slotkin, Baldwin, and maybe Gallego would not have won along with way more house losses so Harris did save our bacon in that regard
Would have 100% had a better shot if Biden kept his word and only did one term so dems could have a proper primary
J1540 on
She didn’t want him to run in 2016 and he would’ve won. All veeps run after two terms.
itsnotcomplicated1 on
There were 70+ million bigots before he ran for re-election and 70+ million after.
You could argue that more dems would have shown up to vote with a different candidate from the start, but a US record number of people voted for the felon.
Running again may have contributed to the loss, it didn’t solely cost America the election. Just like Hillary giving speeches to Goldman Sach’s or the DNC screwing Bernie in 2016 didn’t solely cost Democrats the 2016 election, but it didn’t help!
Bakedads on
I didn’t even want Biden in 2020, and I tried to warn people, but no one listened. However, had Biden actually done his job and held Trump accountable for the coup attempt and his numerous other crimes, I would have voted for Biden in a heartbeat in 2024. So it wasn’t the reelection bid that did it for me. It was his decision to let republicans off the hook for their terrorism. That’s what I care about.
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an_actual_coyote on
I’m so fucking tired, you guys.
tenebre on
He was supposed to be a one-term transitional President and, since Kamala was the VP, they should have been grooming her the whole time to be the lead candidate after his first term but they seemed almost actively trying to hide her.
Nippys4 on
Bullshit.
Joe Biden could have died and they could have run his corpse and it should have still beat Trump.
Your country is just full of morons and people that decided to just throw the baby out with the bathwater and not vote when they should have seen what was coming.
Feeling_Reindeer2599 on
“anybody else, would have beaten Donald Trump,” she said, calling the decision to stay in the race “a terrible miscalculation”.
Wait….
Is she talking about 2020?
ANakedCowboy on
I just want to be clear that it was The dems to lose, but the reason Trump didn’t lose even with this blunder is because the American people are the dumbest on the planet. They proved it
Atalung on
I don’t think it helped but I also don’t think 24 would’ve been a walk in the park if he hadn’t run. The reality is that the dems failed to do much of note for the average person during the Biden administration. Was that their fault? Not entirely, the gop is amazing at obstructionism, but unfortunately the average voter isn’t taking that into consideration.
Harris ran a pretty lackluster campaign after the initial hype wore off, plus she was just too close to the Biden admin. Maybe a progressive outsider could’ve won but I think anyone close to the Biden admin would’ve struggled to win.
After Biden was sworn in Sanders warned that if we do nothing for the working class we would lose in 24 and he was absolutely right.
yestbat on
She’s gotta have dial-up because she’s about three years too late
I_might_be_weasel on
That was definitely shitty. But the idea that anyone considered another Trump presidency remotely acceptable is magnitudes worse.
myychair on
Well she’s an expert on costing democrats the election lmao no fucking shit Hillary
Wet_Side_Down on
While not promising, Joe Biden strongly implied that he would be a one term president.
If he had stuck to that we would be in a whole different place right now. 🙁
KelsierMistborn88 on
It did and he was still a better choice than Traitor Trump. Unfortunately the country is filled with morons.
keninsd on
„Hillary Clinton says Biden’s re-election bid cost Democrats the 2024 election“ OK, President Clinton…Oh…wait. Irony has left that party, too.
toilet_for_shrek on
Choosing Kamala as his successor was dumb too. Her performance during the primaries should have indicated that voters weren’t going to swing for her.
Granted, even the safest establishment democrat would have been a much better choice that Trump
Straightwad on
Tbf if Hillary hadn’t run in 2016 I don’t believe Trump would have won.
TheBalzy on
And your, Hillary, election bid in 2016 is what lost to Trump in the first place. Fuck off. Go back into the woods.
Retlaw83 on
As someone forced down voters throats without a fair primary, she should know.
mothership00 on
Yeah and her run cost the the 2016 election.
nopethisisafakeacct on
Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz cost Democrats the 2016 election. People in glass houses sink ships.
itsagoodtime on
Well she cost 2016 for running a shitty campaign
Otherwise_You_1603 on
Hillary Clinton *knows* a thing or two about ego-driven candidates losing easy elections because they’re too delusional to see how unpopular they are, so her opinion is particularly valuable here
giggity_giggity on
True. But also can’t forget that Harris ran a very poor campaign.
AttractiveNuisance82 on
Ok and shoving HRC down our throats gave us Trump.
aDirtyMartini on
We all know that except the the DNC.
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No shit
Hillary Clinton says water is wet
She certainly knows a lot about costing democrats the election
Well, it’s over now and neither person named in the headline is actively a part of the government.
And what they did to Sanders cost us 2016
[‘I’m all in’: Hillary Clinton on why she says Biden should run for re-election](https://www.ms.now/morning-joe/watch/i-m-all-in-hillary-clinton-on-why-she-says-biden-should-run-for-re-election-192942661705) (Sept 2023)
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I understood he had to wait until the last possible second to make himself a lame duck, but he waited past it.
This is true…although I would probably not vote for Harris again (at least in a primary) she did come super close to an electoral college victory losing PA, MI, and WI by only 230k votes I also think if Biden stayed on Slotkin, Baldwin, and maybe Gallego would not have won along with way more house losses so Harris did save our bacon in that regard
Would have 100% had a better shot if Biden kept his word and only did one term so dems could have a proper primary
She didn’t want him to run in 2016 and he would’ve won. All veeps run after two terms.
There were 70+ million bigots before he ran for re-election and 70+ million after.
You could argue that more dems would have shown up to vote with a different candidate from the start, but a US record number of people voted for the felon.
Running again may have contributed to the loss, it didn’t solely cost America the election. Just like Hillary giving speeches to Goldman Sach’s or the DNC screwing Bernie in 2016 didn’t solely cost Democrats the 2016 election, but it didn’t help!
I didn’t even want Biden in 2020, and I tried to warn people, but no one listened. However, had Biden actually done his job and held Trump accountable for the coup attempt and his numerous other crimes, I would have voted for Biden in a heartbeat in 2024. So it wasn’t the reelection bid that did it for me. It was his decision to let republicans off the hook for their terrorism. That’s what I care about.
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I’m so fucking tired, you guys.
He was supposed to be a one-term transitional President and, since Kamala was the VP, they should have been grooming her the whole time to be the lead candidate after his first term but they seemed almost actively trying to hide her.
Bullshit.
Joe Biden could have died and they could have run his corpse and it should have still beat Trump.
Your country is just full of morons and people that decided to just throw the baby out with the bathwater and not vote when they should have seen what was coming.
“anybody else, would have beaten Donald Trump,” she said, calling the decision to stay in the race “a terrible miscalculation”.
Wait….
Is she talking about 2020?
I just want to be clear that it was The dems to lose, but the reason Trump didn’t lose even with this blunder is because the American people are the dumbest on the planet. They proved it
I don’t think it helped but I also don’t think 24 would’ve been a walk in the park if he hadn’t run. The reality is that the dems failed to do much of note for the average person during the Biden administration. Was that their fault? Not entirely, the gop is amazing at obstructionism, but unfortunately the average voter isn’t taking that into consideration.
Harris ran a pretty lackluster campaign after the initial hype wore off, plus she was just too close to the Biden admin. Maybe a progressive outsider could’ve won but I think anyone close to the Biden admin would’ve struggled to win.
After Biden was sworn in Sanders warned that if we do nothing for the working class we would lose in 24 and he was absolutely right.
She’s gotta have dial-up because she’s about three years too late
That was definitely shitty. But the idea that anyone considered another Trump presidency remotely acceptable is magnitudes worse.
Well she’s an expert on costing democrats the election lmao no fucking shit Hillary
While not promising, Joe Biden strongly implied that he would be a one term president.
If he had stuck to that we would be in a whole different place right now. 🙁
It did and he was still a better choice than Traitor Trump. Unfortunately the country is filled with morons.
„Hillary Clinton says Biden’s re-election bid cost Democrats the 2024 election“ OK, President Clinton…Oh…wait. Irony has left that party, too.
Choosing Kamala as his successor was dumb too. Her performance during the primaries should have indicated that voters weren’t going to swing for her.
Granted, even the safest establishment democrat would have been a much better choice that Trump
Tbf if Hillary hadn’t run in 2016 I don’t believe Trump would have won.
And your, Hillary, election bid in 2016 is what lost to Trump in the first place. Fuck off. Go back into the woods.
As someone forced down voters throats without a fair primary, she should know.
Yeah and her run cost the the 2016 election.
Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz cost Democrats the 2016 election. People in glass houses sink ships.
Well she cost 2016 for running a shitty campaign
Hillary Clinton *knows* a thing or two about ego-driven candidates losing easy elections because they’re too delusional to see how unpopular they are, so her opinion is particularly valuable here
True. But also can’t forget that Harris ran a very poor campaign.
Ok and shoving HRC down our throats gave us Trump.
We all know that except the the DNC.