Am I right in thinking the front lines tend to move a lot less during the winter? In which case Z has a point. If Russia is getting all the punishment without the gradual gains, and if Russian citizens are going to be denied fuel for warmth, things could get very unpleasant.
eldradmustlive469 on
Because he wants people to stop dying and suffering???
He has always been the ‚end the war at all costs‘ leader. He is not the Ukrainian Putin/Churchill. He will fight but he wants peace, always has.
AlexFromOgish on
Besides the coming winter, Ukraine needs a LOT of new soldiers, right?
Seems like a good time for a a couple regiments from UA’s allies to provide rear area relief and damn Russian saber rattling and bluster
Bawbawian on
because he wants the war to end?
stoffermann on
Because Ukraine now has the capacity to do to Russia what Russia has done since the war started; hurt Russian energy infrastructure and specifically turn off the lights and heating in winter.
beauh44x on
I’m probably wrong but my first thought was heating oil, natural gas and propane. Not to mention gasoline for cars and trucks. Thanks to refineries being hit they don’t have much anymore. Perhaps Zelensky thinks the Russian people won’t be happy freezing and Putin might be willing to chat – before it gets even worse. The Russian air defenses are apparently not doing well and Ukraine has all summer to take out more refineries.
sergius64 on
Because it would be difficult for both countries.
Mac_Aravan on
Given that Russia is way far north in densely populated area (read St Petersburg).
Given that they heavily lean against old Soviet central heating system.
Given that they begin to have their AA supply dwindling under drone strain. (Moscow was hit again today).
Given that long range drone production is ramping up in Ukraine right now.
Then Russians should listen if they don’t want to suffer themselves as Ukrainian do.
Character_Minimum171 on
compassion
not a cunt
wants it to end
YsoL8 on
I have to believe that he is making these offers in full knowledge that there is zero chance of a deal right now. Putin (or possibly, a successor) isn’t desperate enough to even consider any sort of peace deal, though you can see it coming.
Its basically still for political show at the minute regardless of how much Zelenski may want one. I don’t see Russia coming to the table in any serious capacity until they have experienced military failure, serious civil problems that force them to admit to themselves they’ve failed. Putin still seems to be living in his own fantasy of how the war is going.
Long_Bit8328 on
I’m predicting a difficult summer and fall ahead for russia.
Legitimate-Edge5835 on
No doubt Ukraine will start hitting their power grid.
JohnnyJukey on
Is there Liberty, freedom of the press, peace wanting folks in Russia? Yes. Keep looking.
ValKyKaivbul on
Be wise – we are not ruzzia. We take no pleasure in causing pain and damage; we want to stop this war and the unnecessary suffering on both sides. Yes, we now hold better cards, but still we hope to avoid further deaths through an „all-for-all“ POW exchange and a ceasefire during negotiations. In fact, a ceasefire is currently needed more by ruzzians than by Ukrainians. They need time to rebuild their oil refineries and oil depots, regroup and mobilise more men, improve their air defences.
cwdawg15 on
Zelensky needs to win the information battle with residents in Russia.
He needs to tied the continued war and turmoil that will happen to Russians over winter to Russia’s decisions to not try to settle the war.
This will help increase war weariness within Russia.
With that said, expect some type of theatrics where Russia tries to make it seem like they are negotiating, but arent really being serious about it.
Zelensky has to appear to be the rational actor.ar the table.
Mobile_Incident_5731 on
I think he knows Russia is politically fragile.
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Am I right in thinking the front lines tend to move a lot less during the winter? In which case Z has a point. If Russia is getting all the punishment without the gradual gains, and if Russian citizens are going to be denied fuel for warmth, things could get very unpleasant.
Because he wants people to stop dying and suffering???
He has always been the ‚end the war at all costs‘ leader. He is not the Ukrainian Putin/Churchill. He will fight but he wants peace, always has.
Besides the coming winter, Ukraine needs a LOT of new soldiers, right?
Seems like a good time for a a couple regiments from UA’s allies to provide rear area relief and damn Russian saber rattling and bluster
because he wants the war to end?
Because Ukraine now has the capacity to do to Russia what Russia has done since the war started; hurt Russian energy infrastructure and specifically turn off the lights and heating in winter.
I’m probably wrong but my first thought was heating oil, natural gas and propane. Not to mention gasoline for cars and trucks. Thanks to refineries being hit they don’t have much anymore. Perhaps Zelensky thinks the Russian people won’t be happy freezing and Putin might be willing to chat – before it gets even worse. The Russian air defenses are apparently not doing well and Ukraine has all summer to take out more refineries.
Because it would be difficult for both countries.
Given that Russia is way far north in densely populated area (read St Petersburg).
Given that they heavily lean against old Soviet central heating system.
Given that they begin to have their AA supply dwindling under drone strain. (Moscow was hit again today).
Given that long range drone production is ramping up in Ukraine right now.
Then Russians should listen if they don’t want to suffer themselves as Ukrainian do.
compassion
not a cunt
wants it to end
I have to believe that he is making these offers in full knowledge that there is zero chance of a deal right now. Putin (or possibly, a successor) isn’t desperate enough to even consider any sort of peace deal, though you can see it coming.
Its basically still for political show at the minute regardless of how much Zelenski may want one. I don’t see Russia coming to the table in any serious capacity until they have experienced military failure, serious civil problems that force them to admit to themselves they’ve failed. Putin still seems to be living in his own fantasy of how the war is going.
I’m predicting a difficult summer and fall ahead for russia.
No doubt Ukraine will start hitting their power grid.
Is there Liberty, freedom of the press, peace wanting folks in Russia? Yes. Keep looking.
Be wise – we are not ruzzia. We take no pleasure in causing pain and damage; we want to stop this war and the unnecessary suffering on both sides. Yes, we now hold better cards, but still we hope to avoid further deaths through an „all-for-all“ POW exchange and a ceasefire during negotiations. In fact, a ceasefire is currently needed more by ruzzians than by Ukrainians. They need time to rebuild their oil refineries and oil depots, regroup and mobilise more men, improve their air defences.
Zelensky needs to win the information battle with residents in Russia.
He needs to tied the continued war and turmoil that will happen to Russians over winter to Russia’s decisions to not try to settle the war.
This will help increase war weariness within Russia.
With that said, expect some type of theatrics where Russia tries to make it seem like they are negotiating, but arent really being serious about it.
Zelensky has to appear to be the rational actor.ar the table.
I think he knows Russia is politically fragile.