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    Abgelehnt: Ergebnisse des Referendums über eine Bevölkerungsobergrenze von 10 Millionen

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    7. GoldustRapedMyDad on

      You’d think Switzerland was the stairways to heaven and r/europe was afraid of being denied entry the way some of you have reacted to this 🤣

    9. PurpleV93 on

      Great news then. We have enough insanity already, the swiss people really don’t need to add to the pile. Thank you to those who voted with a brain and not with xenophobia.

    11. TenxhereShtepiake on

      Rules like this would have no substantial future effect anyway. The Swiss TFR was 1.33 in 2023. Birth rates are dropping world wide. Switzerland already has the strictest naturalization laws for non-EU nationals. I can understand other EU countries trying to restrict migration. But Switzerland?

      Most of their migrant population will fully assimilate in the next few generations anyway. Half of my Albanian cousins there can’t even speak Albanian properly. Their kids will be fully Swiss for all they care.

      The only thing right wing populists want is an enemy and sensationalism and its sad to see people fall for it.

      Edit: Got the TFR slightly wrong

    12. Silly_Product_3476 on

      Why did they reject it population growth does not imply economic growth

    14. SwissPewPew on

      The currently projected 45% „yes“ vote – for such an extremely radical initiative – should give ALL the other Swiss parties pause for thought.

      A less radical initiative would probably have had a much better chance, IMHO, and likely will in the future, if politicians don’t finally tackle all the country’s problems such as skyrocketing rents, exploding housing prices, insufficient housing for the growing population, exorbitantly rising healthcare costs, traffic congestion (more people in the country = more cars), overcrowded public transport, etc.

      The problem in Switzerland isn’t EU-freedom-of-movement/immigration/foreigners/etc. per se, but rather that our infrastructure can’t keep pace with the increasing population (and that other things are being politically botched, such as curbing healthcare costs) – and that politicians aren’t addressing these problems.

      So, from that perspective, here in Switzerland it’s not simply „45% racists“ or „45% EU haters“ (as some left-wingers still want to propagate after this vote result), but IMHO simply 45% people who finally want to have all the open issues caused by population growth – especially regarding our infrastructure(!) – resolved.

      Of course voting yes for that initiative is/was stupid, but instead of just assuming „oh noes, 45% are stupid/racist/etc.“ one should ask the much more important question „why did 45% think a population cap (and via the cap killing the EU treaties) is a good idea?“.

      I mean, no matter whether Switzerland has „45% racists“ or „45% EU haters“ or „45% concerned with the politically unsolved issues due to population growth“ or „45% a combination of all three“, IMHO Switzerland has major political problems on their hands that need solving.

      Otherwise the next – a bit less radical – initiative might even get accepted.

    17. binary_spaniard on

      And now we will never talk about this for some reason. Like we never talk when people reject anti immigration policies.

    20. Immediate_Rain1831 on

      I’m not even from Switzerland, but genuinely curious why exactly you are celebrating and what are your proposed solutions to a very real problem?

      Switzerland has a population density of over 228 people per square km, which is absolutely mind blowing for a mountainous country. Just to compare with neighboring Austria, which has half that population density. But what’s even crazier, compared to to Hungary – almost the entire country is made up of prime real estate and it has 106 population density. That is normality guys.

      Sorry but I just cannot see how Switzerland can maintain a high standard of living and respect for the environment with unrestricted population growth.

    21. Wandering_PlasticBag on

      Thank God.

      I still want to emigrate to Switzerland, because Hungary sucks.

    23. WolfetoneRebel on

      Shows the danger of direct democracy that something like this could have even been voted on.

    24. Technicalforest on

      Good, but honestly a bit too close for comfort. There’s always going to be idiots, but that’s way too many voters that think a population cap would be good and logical and feasible.

    25. Globbi on

      Referendums are dumb in vast majority of cases. They shouldn’t be, but the way they are treated makes them so.

      Two possibilities:

      – OMG, huge relief, huge win, they rejected X.
      – WTF is this country doing? How stupid are they to accept X?

      The difference is a few percentage points and result could be different in a year. This is how brexit happened. Single referendum with slight advantage decided path for a big nation for decades. Even dumber if a referendum like that is repeated in case of repeal but once it passes it will be never repeated.

      A lot of important decisions like that should be revisited no matter which side won if it’s closer than 70–30 or something. Not just „ok, let’s see in a year“, but prepare policy drafts, start more discussions on what exactly different people want and how they understand the position, simulate what international treaties would be changed, how they would be replaced, what would be the effects. And if it’s consistently very close to 50–50 some concessions to losing side should be made.

    26. DirectionOverall9709 on

      Imagine having twins and one of them gets exiled due to being at the limit.

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