„Wir wurden dem Verrotten überlassen“: Einblicke in Großbritanniens neue Schlafzimmergeneration
https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/70441/1/youth-unemployment-crisis-alan-milburn-report-neets-brit-uk-bedroom-generation
Von AgentOk8737
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For many young people, the only private space they have is their bedroom. Are we really surprised‽
I’m 37 and working in an entry level admin job, which is all I’ve been able to get despite hundreds of applications for things I’m very qualified for. It’s so depressing, and I have so much empathy for all these people who can’t find a job at all. I’m just hoping the AI bubble will burst soon
Ironically, the article has a random AI-generated image, rather than a photograph of one of the people interviewed for the article. Cheaper than paying a photographer.
How many NEETs look out of their bedroom window and see a view like that?
I have been there. Took me about 4 years or so to get a decent job after finishing my PhD. I was reliant on my family and bit jobs here and there.
It really does get to you and I am still paranoid about money now as a result !
*“The dead-end process has much to do with the fault of employers using AI to vet applications: on multiple occasions, Lily-Rose has received an automated rejection email within an hour of submitting her CV and cover letter. “I’ve spent almost three hours trying to apply for your business, and you don’t even have the decency to have a real human look through my application and email me back,” she says.”*
Once again, this shitkicking ‘innovation’ profits inhumane business while immiserating human beings. But, oh, we must invest all our fucking time, money, and attention into making Britain an AI ceNTrE oF ExCELleNcE. This horrific bubble cannot burst soon enough.
Keep raising taxes on productive activities while doing absolutely nothing to fix the housing crisis and unproductive rentier economy that are the primary cause of the vast majority of the economic problems in this country. That will solve it!
A bit dystopian but it’s going to happen more, I’m surprised it doesn’t already.
Affordable VR + AI + every social media influencer peddling supplements combined with klarna fast food debt and BOOM
I know of atleast 2 under 18s who have already fallen into this rut. Due to a bit of social and geographic isolation they spend the majority of their time on discord and talking to their AI ‚girlfriend‘.
Really feel for people that get caught by this as for most it’s completely outside their control. The economy just isn’t set up to support the younger generation in the UK.
Average age of first time home owner is now 34, one in three men aged 20-34 living at home, 1 million 16-24 classed as NEETs, 40% of 16-24 year olds economically inactive and only around 10% of university students who end up on a recognised graduate scheme.
You can ignore the statistics and assume once people turn 35 they suddenly have a great career, money for a house, big pension balance and potentially start families but it just doesn’t seem likely.
Don’t worry, the government will suddenly be very interested in this generation when it needs soldiers to fill it’s ranks in the next war.
I’ve been officially homeless for close to a year now. I work close to 60 hours a week building houses. There’s nowhere for me to call my home. Council won’t help, housing associations won’t help. Other individuals who haven’t paid tax or contributed are living in the houses I paid tax for while earning my crust. This country is an absolute joke!
I’ve a job that I quite enjoy supporting disabled adults but unfortunately after tax and pension, I’m coming home with £1400 a month.
I can either afford a £600 a month house share or stay in my families box room at around £200 (renting a whole flat, plus bills, tax is over 1k a month so not viable).
I’m also limited due to autism so I can get burned out very quickly which is why I’m afraid to really change.
Essentially living in mediocrity but I just focus on the little things to keep me going.
Just turn one of the spare rooms into another sitting room….
My daughter is 19, still lives at home. She’s got a pretty cushy set up, tbh – I’m in a wheelchair, so the upstairs of our home doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned. We’ve put an extension on the house and put in a wet shower room n loo. The front sitting room is now our bedroom, with the separate dining room becoming the main room we use for everyday stuff, from watching telly to having a space to wfh.
My daughter has the upstairs to herself, 3 bedrooms and a bathroom. She only needs a kitchenette up there and she’s sorted. She’s bought a mini fridge for drinks n snacks, but happily we still see her for dinner after work.
And I’ve told her, she’s our daughter and she will always have a place here, no matter what. And I know how dogshit it is out there for youngsters to get a job that affords them a place of their own. I see the jobs she applies for, so I know she’s not just phoning it in, she’s actively trying. She’s found a part time food retail thing, but that doesn’t pay close to paying for a flat, the bills, and other costs
She wants to move in with her boyfriend, but he’s in a similar position, working two part time jobs while living at home. The way things are going, the only way she’ll have a place of her own is when I buy her starter home instead – not trying to show off, just aware of the limited opportunities out there for her and all the others :/
There are no good entry level jobs or training offered anymore for young people . Degree or not . Getting your foot in the door is almost impossible. I even had like 100 people apply for my shitty part time retail position I do which is all there is round here . Applying to the military which is taking almost 2 years .
Would have gone to uni but the expenses are insane and the job market hasn’t been worse . My friends that did are all broke now .
Housing is unaffordable and frankly unacceptable compared to the rest of Europe. Good luck getting teens and young adults that can’t even find decent work to afford to move out and have a family . Productive work is also taxed to hell anyway. I feel trapped and alot of young people do too . Like there isn’t much hope of a better future .
It’s over for young men and no one is ready for that conversation and the reasons for it
My son is a LEET.
He applies for at least one job almost everyday and has been for the past 3 years since finishing college and has had 2 interviews and nothing else.
He went on a hospitality course with a support organisation to gain some experience and more knowledge and that hasn’t helped either.
Employers being unwilling to train is the main problem, older people are going to age out and then die and then what will they be left with? A generation of under experienced resentful 30-somethings pissed at them for not giving them a chance when they were younger, great future that will be.🤦
I’m a full time working 21 year old and this shit is so depressing I keep seeing youth unemployment crisis everywhere
I saw an apprenticeship role yesterday for a customer service role welcoming customers into a car dealership. Why on earth is that an apprenticeship?!
So not only to they get to pay £4 odd less than the minimum wage, are the companies paid subsidies to take on apprenticeships. Saving themselves money.
Apprenticeships should be for qualified/registered/trade roles only.
When everybody has a degree it’s no longer going to stand out on your CV, and it results in a ridiculous level of qualification inflation at the entry level meaning there was no point getting it in the first place.
Young people in the UK are victims of a grand scam.
My partner has been in this place for the past decade, besides the occasional service job that absolutely shattered her mental health, or admin job for a company that shortly went bust. It’s absolutely depressing watching this intelligent wonderful woman get rejected year after year, often without reason or feedback. It’s the whole reason why we’ve had to all but give up on the idea of getting married never mind having kids, we’re having a hard enough time staying up right on a single income.
It isn’t hard to come up with policies to tackle this:
Immediately
– Return to the Labour Market Test for everyone. Labour basically put this back just for resident doctors. Meaning firms have to hire in the UK first for all roles.
– Do the same temporary visa renewals of the Boriswave, to free up some low paid jobs and others that could be done by graduates.
– End restrictions on letting house shares – in many areas you now need planning permission even without internal changes so friends and colleagues can’t let together meaning even rooms to rent are extortionate.
– Pay for driving lessons for Neets and / or relocation costs if they live in high unemployment areas
Long term
– Actually tackle shortages of housing in major cities and the rental market, not just stupid targets that are repeatingly missed;
– Encourage firms to move out of expensive cities like London and do more of their own training and development
Youth unemployment needs to be treated like the emergency it is.
Put everything you wat like TV, computer, games stations and music, then seem surprised that people aren’t leaving their bedrooms lol
Queue everyone’s favorite ‚its ai’s fault‘ comments.
Nope you’re just not applying to enough jobs and willing to try different roles to get into work
I was NEET too after uni, I was a self employed dog walker and I got jobs by speaking to people in person – one at a pub and one at a doctors office as an assistant. You really cannot just throw your CV into a void online for a low wage job and it’s been that way for years. Before those jobs I volunteered for free – which sounds like some of these people can do too as they live with parents.
On this topic some say that in the past multigenerational households were normal. Dying from a cold was also normal and we fixed that, so IMO people wanting independence and space from their parents and therefore being able to leave home in their 20s for their own permanent living space is totally normal and was also a fix for a historical problem.
Using a photo of a handsome man in a million dollar city apartment is a slap in the face to those of us bedroom rotting. I have black mold on the walls, ground floor in a grey British town.
Is there any point in applying online these days.
Although it appears online there are so so many jobs. And on LinkedIn you can filter by how many people clicked through.
I find a lot of job postings very difficult to understand what the role is and over wordy AI postings aren’t helping with this.
I have found that niche job sites such as jobs.ac.uk, art jobs or charity jobs seem to be a much better way of applying than spamming indeed.
How is this news?
I have a home with my partner and my son. The only ‚private space‘ i have is my drive to/from work or if im in the shower.
It’s definitely a tough market and I’m not diminishing these experiences but…
Not ONE of the three young people in this article mention any sort of volunteering… any time spent doing free online training… it begs the question if they’re actually doing all they can as they claim to be.
ETA: when I left uni, I had a decent CV to get me started because of all of the volunteering I’d done in my field. That was only 7 years ago and even then, others from my course struggled to get jobs because they’d not gone the extra mile. It’s a tale as old as time – you get out what you put in
It feels so obvious to me that the issue is simply that:
1. cost of living is too high and no-one can afford it
2. as a result we pump minimum wage, increase taxes, put in a load of protections e.g. emotional response to try to solve the symptoms rather than attack the root cause
3. as a result there are no jobs because high employment costs and high costs in general (rent, energy, etc) make all sorts of business models not function
4. everyone with money invests in stuff like assets instead, buy housing, US shares, gold, bitcoin, whatever, because the rate of return is better, risk adjusted, than starting a business
5. loop back to 1
The logical fix here is to get the cost of living down e.g. by building out loads of housing and getting energy costs down which also improves the economy so that there are more jobs (you get more business when it’s cheaper and easier to rent property and hire people).
You also want to give business preferential tax treatment i.e. you should pay more tax for buying and sitting on assets and less tax for starting a business and employing people.
We could – wait for it – we could even _get the unemployed to work fixing this by providing them jobs_.
But that would require doing things. This is the UK. The Government will just go and find the „housing benefit“ and the „income tax“ column in the spreadsheet, multiply them both by a few percent, maybe write a report on how some weird niche group is suffering from beans on toast poverty, add a new „Weekly Tin of Branston“ benefit category then call it a day.
It really feels sometimes like the powers that be are looking for that one cheeky cheat code. There is no cheat code, you have to just actually put in the physical work.
I think we need to start living differently seeing as children are staying at home longer. If everyone in the house is working then there is potential to extend or buy a bigger house. This is how the Asian community has done it for years. Multi generational living.
https://youtu.be/BTlUyS-T-_4?is=7Wh3PY6wWXI8AFAb
https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/we-need-to-tax-billionaires-the-most-important-economist-in-the-world-today-gabriel-zucman/c1405db7d8b2080f?ean=9781399839600&next=t&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20920067905&gbraid=0AAAAABjGUH3EfTRc1usL9b4L8CqtoKmwF&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7PRBhDcARIsAMjV7jnqU0Y6WuFa7KKlx1-aCz5cVWmqSyHnEBe6fuswgYnHvQQwYapQ0r8aAkrYEALw_wcB
> third of UK firms are actively hiring older workers due to a concern about younger staff lacking the skills
Not gonna lie, this has been a bit of an issue where I work (prop trading house). Clever and driven grads are like gold dust, its why they get paid well. But so many interview well just to turn out to have a really poor work ethic or just arent that smart. Also when we list online for grad role we get thousands of poor quality cvs and also loads from abroad even though we specify that we won’t sponsor visas.
One of our neighbours‘ young lad was complaining to me about not being able to get a job despite ‚applying for loads‘. He never had any interviews and hardly any replies.
I asked to look at his CV and cover letter for the jobs he was looking at and what they were. His CV was a one side of A4 he had knocked up online and was the most basic, uninteresting thing I think I had ever read. His cover letter was a generic 2 paragraphs that had nothing to do with the jobs he was applying for.
I gave him some advice to get professional help with his CV and cover letter, being brutally honest with him about the fact his CV and effort wasn’t cutting it.
With some help from a job coach and a properly tailored CV and letter, he had job within months.
I am not saying all these people have zero effort CV’s, but getting someone in the know to help you could really pay dividends. Get MULTIPLE people to look over your CV and letters to get a consensus if it is really as good as it could be.
Tailoring to the job you are applying for is key, trying to exactly match job requirements with relevant personal or work experience no matter how tenuous. Obviously no outright lying!
This will likely get worst as Starmer is pressured into cutting benefits to increase defence spending. And if you think this will be gone once Starmer is ousted, you’d be mistaken as the calls for austerity to increase defense spending is bipartisan and will likely be enacted regardless of who succeeds him. Made worse is the coming surveillance state, which is unlikely to get downgraded any time soon.
No wonder tons of Brits want to emigrate. No job, no future, and no money, made worse by how British politics in general is all stupid idpol.
In the mean time Boris brought in four million people, and apparently 28 foreigners are hired for every Brit hired.
Not a fault of AI or anything. Too many grads when the economy does not have that many grad jobs. At the same time all types of building jobs are there to grab. Get a vocational specialisation.
I mean yeah. I just turned 31, and I’m utterly fucked. The past 10 years of my life have been beyond complicated. Had severe mental health issues in my early 20s that required long term professional help (all better now), and since Covid I’ve been essentially a full time, unpaid carer for my dad after he developed a debilitating health condition, as we have no other family to assist with it. I’ve essentially been out of work for 10 years as a result of life hitting me hard at the worst times, but now I’m good, healthy, and in a position to work so I can finally build my own life – no one will even give me the time of day. I have absolutely no idea how to get going at this point.
Until I left home in the 1970’s my only private space was my bedroom, I don’t get what the problem is?
This doesn’t surprise me, although I don’t really like the framing. We see a lot of cultures have children living with their parents till 30s regardless of financial position. It helps them save money, support their family – especially important now with the tech shifts – and move out to something better than poverty. There is a reason asian cultures are fairing better in this landscape change.
If I were to have kids, I would happily let them stay home as long as they wanted, providing they were in employment and saving. It’s an awful lot better than spending your 20s paying off a landlords mortgage while you pocket maybe £50 in savings a month.