Der Gesetzentwurf C-34 der Liberalen ist ein Boomer-Plan zur Zensur des Internets: Das Gesetz zielt darauf ab, politische Äußerungen zu zensieren und gleichzeitig drakonische Regeln dafür festzulegen, was Kinder online tun dürfen
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jamie-sarkonak-the-liberals-bill-c-34-is-a-boomer-plan-to-censor-the-internet
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Well, children probably should be limited online.
I’m a little disappointed that „boomer“ is only in the headline
In a world of online „bots“ & „troll farms“ what would you do to protect the kids from fakes & bs propaganda?
An honest question to all Canadians ..?
The under 45 year olds will have to vote differently next election. Because the over 60 years are breaking our country down.
There is NO way we are electing liberals again. At this point 15 years of the same thing, I will try the CPC or the NDP.
WE ARE DONE.
Social media is not the internet.
Social media is a small layer of mostly closed, American corporations that run for-profit services.
The internet is still there, still open, still free.
Am I the only one who supports having some level of restrictions on what youth (or in some cases everyone) can or can’t access? The reality is that technology and social media has advanced much faster than regulations could keep up, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have regulations in place.
My main issue with this bill is that I really don’t think it’s enforceable. But I don’t believe in the idea we shouldn’t try to regulate how social media is used, particularly for our most vulnerable and impressionable populations.
And btw this is specifically for social media, not the internet as a whole.
Edit: personally I think our curriculums need to really start including media literacy courses. There’s so much misinformation out there (more than actual factual information tbh) that people need to learn to question what they see. BRING BACK THE HOUSE HIPPO PSAs!
We don’t need a dystopian surveillance state to fix a corporate addiction crisis. Forcing people to hand over government IDs just to use the internet is a terrible idea that kills online privacy. Instead, we should strike at the actual root of the problem: just ban algorithmic social media at the network level and be done with it.
There is a massive difference between the open internet and the apps built to exploit us. The goal shouldn’t be to restrict information. If we leave the open web completely intact, the internet stays exactly what it was meant to be, a powerful tool for research, commerce, utility, and actual websites.
What disappears is the algorithmic garbage designed to shorten our attention spans and polarize society. A blanket ban on platforms like Meta, TikTok, X, and yes, even Reddit, isn’t censoring the internet, it’s removing a parasitic layer of smartphone feeds that actively drains the intelligence of the populace.
We don’t need draconian laws to track citizens. We just need to log off the feeds, go back to using the web intentionally on a desktop, and reclaim both our privacy and our attention spans at the same time.
yep, horrible for companies and adults and does not protect chilldren.
I get it…… something needs to be done to protect vulnerable elements of our society from the risks that exist online. However, this legislation is not the answer. More government control is not the answer.
My thought is that like with the gun confiscation program which uses the guise of fighting crime to justify the confiscation of personal property at huge cost, this policy has a more insidious intention at its core. That being further controlling the narrative of current events to keep people blind, to prevent discussion that may be considered contrary to the social engineering objectives of this government, to increase control over a nation in a manner that does not serve its best interests, but rather the interest of the liberal party.
What’s next…… are we going to get a knock on our door from the censor police when we post a comment like this that is critical of the govt or its policy. Not far fetched….. look at what has happened in places like the UK where that woke govt under the leadership of starmer has fined and jailed thousands of people for simply expressing their opinions. Opinions that contradicted the „accepted“ opinion of that govt. And look how the UK is faring under this style of regime!
Tech companies need to do a better job at filtering content and eliminating criminal elements from using their platforms to exploit everyone. They can do it. Why they resist who knows. That is where the solution lies though, NOT through more govt control and censorship!
Yet another fail by this failure of a liberal govt!
Lol they still pretending its about the children. Any time a government says its about „protecting children“ it never is. Anyone who thinks it is needs to dip their head into cold water and wake up.
Geez kids are going find a way around this. worse they’ll learn about tor browser and start browsing the dark web.
Also more proof libs and cons are same party with different social flavour. Cons pushed hard to do this for porn
I am so fucking tired of seeing Marc Miller’s face in the news because everytime he does it’s to push bullshit on the populace that nobody but his rich crony friends and their entourage wants AKA shit news for the little people.
Scumbag traitor.
Political censorship is the obvious goal here. Look to the UK, that’s what Carney wants to bring here.
Any time the government wants to „protect children“ it’s important to look at what they’re actually intending to do. Protecting children from online harm would actually be promoting literacy, encouraging them to be open with their parents and guardians about what they’re doing online, limiting the social media sites‘ ability to access personal information for adversarial advertisment, and cracking down on algorithmic feeds that encourage passive scrolling. This bill will do none of those things. The kids will find a way around the blocks, unless the implementation is actually using your government ID to access shit, so unless we’re all signing on for a massive erosion of our privacy, we should oppose this.
It’s all well and good to say that kids shouldn’t be on social media– I don’t even necessarily disagree. But we should be thinking long and hard about what becomes easily accessible by bad faith actors (let alone the government itself). The amount of information that advertisers collect from us is already absurd, imagine that connected to your ID, and think about what that might mean. Voting information, banking, healthcare records, all connected to your online footprint, and extremely exploitable. This, alongside that cute little backdoor into digital records they’re pushing, means the internet will very quickly become dangerous. We have a right to privacy. We should not trust the intentions of anyone who wants to diminish that right.
Big government back at it. Canada loves begin a nanny state, they need to be involved in everything. What happened to the motto „The True North strong and free“
There’s an effective way to do this without requiring digital IDs or government surveillance: provide a tax break/refund to parents of children under 16 who implement restrictions on their internet usage through privately owned services. That, or set aside monies for a public insurance plan that covers the costs of those services, similar to the dental plan. It preserves subsidiarity while promoting responsible internet use for minors.
and they don’t have the technology to enforce any of it.
The onset of digital ID.
Its easy to stay elected when you can suppress criticism and easily identify and punish anybody anybody who says anything. They’re even going to ban private VPNs, albeit indirectly, with the Lawfull Access act.
Whatever criticism people have about what’s going on is the US, it honestly pales compared to the authoritarian surveillance state the Liberals are trying to create up here.
They are gonna ruin the whole damn internet with all these online ID and anti-privacy bills.
If things like this get passed into law, 5 to 10 years from now you’ll be submitting government ID just to launch a web browser, if not just to use your operating system, and everything you do will be logged with a backdoor for governments or law enforcement access.
Private corporations will profit even more from your personal/behavioural data, all of which will be even more exposed to hackers, and what’s to stop a future authoritarian government from acting against people who hold opinions that go against what they want?
Bye bye any semblance of an expectation of online privacy. I already knew Zuck and Google were watching a lot when using a PC, but soon it’ll be the government as well.
I see this thread has turned into the typical Liberal vs Conservative pissing match. This issue should be bi-partisan. This bill from the Liberals is terrible. Equally terrible was bill S-210 which Pierre Poilievre and the entire Conservative caucus voted in favour of. Neither party is on your side.
In the U.K., their flawed Online Safety Act was created by the Conservative Party and put into legislation by the Labour Party. A third party, the Reform Party, has pledged to repeal the Act. The Reform has been leading comfortably in the polls for over a year and will likely form the next government. This is what Canada needs.
But by all means, keep switching back and forth between the two parties that support this BS. I’m sure that will work out.
I use the internet in a meaningful way for my profession. It is the great tool it was billed to be. The internet mostly due to social media has become both positive and extremely harmful in many cases. It has also lead to a completely out of touch and socially immoral oligarchy. We have barely started to reduce the harm and as we correct one harm another harm comes up. The scary part is that the internet has been around for over 30 years now and we are barely managing it even as AI comes along promising to be even more helpful and harmful. This will never be solved when the tech bro oligarchs wield so much power over governments. The US is by far the worse case for this but expect they will never fix these problems. Do you trust Elon, Zuckerburg, Bezos & the rest of the Tech Bros? I sure as hell don’t. I don’t know what it’s going to take but the status quo is pretty awful.
Am I the only one here that thinks is the parents to blame.. keep your kids off social media. But this is just imo.
Kids need rules around what they can do online. That’s not my issue. My issue is that this is a back door way to put rules on what everyone else can do online.
The provinces control our eduction, you think a government like the UCP wants teachers pushing media literacy? They literally ban books and yet they’re opposed to this.
Modems and software already exist with these solutions but then we are relying on private companies to educate parents. That has failed so far.
There was pushback when seatbelt laws were introduced. There was pushback when anti-smoking laws were introduced. There is always going to be opposition to anything where people perceive it as an attack on their freedom to do whatever they want.
The reality is in some cases we have to legislate because the public can’t be bothered to do the right thing.
That being said, of course I am opposed to anything that would require uploading our IDs to access a platform. But they need to do something.
Before election: We’re different! We’re gonna build more houses! The economy is gonna boom!
After election: lol jk, we’re gonna fuck up the whole Internet and take away all civilian firearm ownership. Oh and good luck finding a job!
Fall in line, everyone, and be a good citizen and report anyone who doesn’t.
What bothers me about this is that they have no idea how this will work. The bill is just a law to allow them to do things that they aren’t allowed to do now.
An anyone point to actual language of C34 that censors political speech. Or is cyberbullying, and child predation now considered political speech by conservatives?
Think about that headline for a minute…
Why would boomers want to censor kids from the internet? Our kids are long past grown up.
Perhaps the blame should be placed on those responsible.
Lord Blacks American pals. Yawn.