Mehr als die Hälfte der Polen sagen, dass sie die Ukrainer in einem negativeren Licht sehen, nachdem Präsident Wolodymyr Selenskyj beschlossen hat, eine Militäreinheit nach einer ukrainischen paramilitärischen Gruppe zu benennen, die im Zweiten Weltkrieg Polen massakriert hat, wie eine Umfrage ergab.
https://tvpworld.com/93760984/poland-poll-zelenskyys-upa-honor-harms-views-of-ukrainians
Von Tyranish40k
13 Kommentare
We have to prepare for extra hostile and proud Ukraine after the war ends.
So muscovite propaganda is working. It’s a shame that people are too stupid to see through it. And Zelenskyy isn’t surprising at all, because he doesn’t give a damn about other people’s expectations.
poll itself is pretty manipulative in its framing of the problem, since it lumps together people’s perspective on ukraine, its government and all ukrainians in general
My whole village was made from people who were running away from UPA, my neighbours sister was buried alive with her head out, and they cut of her head while family had to watch. There are tons of other histories like that, mothers bellies ripped open alive and children killed and even more gruesome stories. You see why we are upset?
FSB (F*** Stepan Bandera)
PL invested so much efforts in overexaggerating the Volyn topic for last 10years, that now it’s harvesting what they planted. Regular people think nothing but a 100 years old ww2 episode, and it is defining their current relationship towards Ukrainians. Even though we have a real war happening in Ukraine, with not zero chances it would be happening in PL soon, and both states need to be allies. We learn zero from history.
Imagine the world wide reactions if Germany was to name a millitary unit or whatever after some Nazi group.
Ukraine on the other hand gets a free pass
Every Pole and every Ukrainian should hear at least one testimony from a survivor before making their mind on the matter. Especially from someone who witnessed what they did to infants and pregnant women.
every UPA supporter should hear what they did to COMPLETELY INNOCENT PEOPLE
Completely made-up stories that can’t be ignored – „this pathetic person deleted this comment when he realized how full of stupidity it was.“ I think I understood the true attitude towards Ukrainians. I don’t need this.
https://preview.redd.it/ztadx10bct6h1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10f7434eceac21890cf7467975a43a191f40e767
If Ukraine goes out of the war in at least status quo – it is economically and demographically broken. It may become proud, but it will not last. Let’s be honest even if there was no historical questions no EU ascension will happen in at least 10 years after the was ends both because:
1. EU countries dependent on their agriculture will be super defensive of their farmers
2. No one will not be sure Russia will not attack again and to have Ukraine in EU is having much more obligations than now when it is working only out of good will or from shocking understanding that Russia’s taking heads actually talking about attacking EU countries, and having their track record they are actually doing what they are taking about if not now than in 5-10-15 years, Putin is just a form, FSB is the system.
3. If it happens this way 3-5 years after the war Russia will have an opportunity to try another political campaign in disappointing and broken Ukraine, and if it will fail again next time as always no one knows how the war will go.
4. If Russia actually wins, not like takes all Ukraine it’s impossible for now, but advances to achieve their defined goal, the previous scenario will get even more possible, as EU will be even more reluctant and Ukraine will be even weaker.
Okay there is also chance that Ukraine will win, not again like conquering Moscow, but for example splitting the created by Russia land corridor + leading Russia to such economical collapse that FSB is on a verge of losing power, it will win Ukraine 10-15 years of total peace I will tell you this, people in Ukraine will be damn proud, but they will be ULTRA tired of war and will want as much freedom as possible, and no UPA will be needed more to steer right wing in a direction of supporting the actual power and they will return to pre-war marginality of 2-4% instead of 8-12% now. Economical question still would be difficult, but at least fear of Russia will be less.
Państwo z, ponoć, tysiącem lat tradycji nie może znaleźć na patrona nikogo lepszego.
Can’t Ukrainians find other historical figures who can enhance their national honor without offending the feelings of other nations?
The crimes committed by the UPA and Bandera during World War II are countless; their brutality is utterly inhuman.