Yeah, ban it. Well, leave it optional for any adults that want it, but forcing it on children is fucked up.
AldurinIronfist on
From the thumbnail I was wondering what Little Alex Horne has to do with circumcision
NeedleworkerOld4696 on
About time.
It’s a barbaric practice and children not only should be protected from it, they should be able to press charges if their parents violated them.
minobi on
Sounds good
ALifeWellLift on
The fact it hasn’t already been banned is a failure of multiple governments to protect the young and vulnerable.
Let people make their own choices when they’re old enough and see how common it is then. Forcing an unnecessary, lifelong body alteration onto such an intimate area on someone else because *your* religion says so is indefensible.
TheoremaEgregium on
I didn’t think I’d live to see a real political party in Europe take that position. Amazing.
It seems they don’t need Islamic votes and don’t fear Israeli smear campaigns.
JamMichaelVincent on
‘Any suggestion of a ban on circumcision will have a significant impact on our communities and the future of the UK as a tolerant society which respects freedom of religion and belief’
– Director of Jewish leadership council
Freedom of parents to needlessly mutilate a baby. Freedom for a barbaric antiquated tradition. No need to be tolerant on this.
Earl0fYork on
With how it has been proposed the ban isn’t a bad idea as it’s a ban on unwilling circumcision, but I think this will backfire internally. Green Muslims and Jews might outright oppose such measures
Bambivalently on
Finally! Took you long enough to grow morals instead of just always pandering.
False-Discipline-640 on
It’s genital mutilation, only a consenting adult should be allowed to ask for one
Treff_the_Cleric on
Good. It’s horrific to do it to children. Absolutely barbaric
Stunning_Macaron6133 on
Finally someone stepped up to fight infant genital mutilation.
Chingapouk on
They will also have to make illegal the strategy of making the round trip to another country to perform the act, if they want this to be efficient.
xxtylxx on
I always thought genital mutilation was wrong. Male or female. But that’s just me.
TheRogueSpectator on
GOOD. Obviously long overdue. This is an absolute no-brainer.
SmashedWorm64 on
I give the greens a lot of shit – but bravo.
Pirate-parrot on
Based.
Noble_Titus on
The only times this should be acceptable is as a medical intervention or a cosmetic/religious procedure for an adult.
It is not something to force onto children because of a belief in cosmic forces somehow requiring it. Green Party are continuing to knock it out of the park with sensible politicking.
LittleSchwein1234 on
Not a fan of the Greens for other reasons, but this is a reasonable proposal.
Religious freedom ≠ freedom to mutilate your child
Legal-Software on
Unless it’s medically necessary, it’s an unnecessary procedure that can be voluntarily opted into later in life when the child is old enough to consent. The personal religious beliefs of the parents are irrelevant when the child is not in a position to consent one way or the other, and there’s no easy way to walk back genital mutilation. The idea that a child has religious beliefs that are decided and imposed by its parents before they’re old enough to form an opinion is also in and of itself nonsense. As usual, freedom from religion > freedom of religion.
WWIIICannonFodder on
Excellent idea. It’s an absolutely barbaric practice. Banning it has been attempted before in Europe, but the ban didn’t go through. It was stopped by some group.
Purple_Airline_6682 on
I hope it’ll encourage those that choose to be religious to think long and hard about what that entails. As a Jew, I recognize the historical importance of circumcision. The Abrahamic Covenant, which entails the Brit Milah, requires the circumcision happen on the 8th day after birth. It’s one of the most important convenants with Hashem. However, I find the practice to be just as repugnant as FGM (when it’s not for medical reasons). It’s one thing for an adult to make that choice, it’s entirely different for someone to make that decision for an infant. We don’t allow parents to beat their children, why do we allow them to cause this trauma?
Gullible-Fee-9079 on
Good
Sampo on
Title is misleading. The Green Party is not proposing this.
> The party’s Health Policy Working Group (HPWG) has launched a consultation seeking views
So there is a group inside the party considering to proposing it to the party conference. I am sure the actual party conference will shut the idea down.
Skjoldehamn on
I was a victim of this as a literal baby – my parents got me mutilated for religious reasons, but i never was religious at all. It’s fucked up in every way.
I’m all in for a ban on this barbaric practice, but we need such legislation to cover the case where parents will travel with the baby to a foreign country where it is allowed and perform it there.
ErikaNaumann on
I don’t understand how the genital mutilation of babies is currently allowed. This should be an easy decision.
Jollybean1 on
Good. Children should be able to have a say in whether their bodies are mutilated permanently or not.
the68thdimension on
Hell yeah. No genital mutilation unless medically necessary. Religion is not a reason. Adults can do it to themselves if they so choose.
CompetitiveAutorun on
Ban.
It’s like kidney stone, we don’t cut it if isn’t a problem. Religion and it’s people can fick off. We don’t perform mutiliation on girls, we shouldn’t on boys.
It’s honestly maddening how much there is pushback against basic rights for boys. Men problems are always treated like it’s no big deal and shouldn’t be changed, always considered personal, never societal.
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Yeah, ban it. Well, leave it optional for any adults that want it, but forcing it on children is fucked up.
From the thumbnail I was wondering what Little Alex Horne has to do with circumcision
About time.
It’s a barbaric practice and children not only should be protected from it, they should be able to press charges if their parents violated them.
Sounds good
The fact it hasn’t already been banned is a failure of multiple governments to protect the young and vulnerable.
Let people make their own choices when they’re old enough and see how common it is then. Forcing an unnecessary, lifelong body alteration onto such an intimate area on someone else because *your* religion says so is indefensible.
I didn’t think I’d live to see a real political party in Europe take that position. Amazing.
It seems they don’t need Islamic votes and don’t fear Israeli smear campaigns.
‘Any suggestion of a ban on circumcision will have a significant impact on our communities and the future of the UK as a tolerant society which respects freedom of religion and belief’
– Director of Jewish leadership council
Freedom of parents to needlessly mutilate a baby. Freedom for a barbaric antiquated tradition. No need to be tolerant on this.
With how it has been proposed the ban isn’t a bad idea as it’s a ban on unwilling circumcision, but I think this will backfire internally. Green Muslims and Jews might outright oppose such measures
Finally! Took you long enough to grow morals instead of just always pandering.
It’s genital mutilation, only a consenting adult should be allowed to ask for one
Good. It’s horrific to do it to children. Absolutely barbaric
Finally someone stepped up to fight infant genital mutilation.
They will also have to make illegal the strategy of making the round trip to another country to perform the act, if they want this to be efficient.
I always thought genital mutilation was wrong. Male or female. But that’s just me.
GOOD. Obviously long overdue. This is an absolute no-brainer.
I give the greens a lot of shit – but bravo.
Based.
The only times this should be acceptable is as a medical intervention or a cosmetic/religious procedure for an adult.
It is not something to force onto children because of a belief in cosmic forces somehow requiring it. Green Party are continuing to knock it out of the park with sensible politicking.
Not a fan of the Greens for other reasons, but this is a reasonable proposal.
Religious freedom ≠ freedom to mutilate your child
Unless it’s medically necessary, it’s an unnecessary procedure that can be voluntarily opted into later in life when the child is old enough to consent. The personal religious beliefs of the parents are irrelevant when the child is not in a position to consent one way or the other, and there’s no easy way to walk back genital mutilation. The idea that a child has religious beliefs that are decided and imposed by its parents before they’re old enough to form an opinion is also in and of itself nonsense. As usual, freedom from religion > freedom of religion.
Excellent idea. It’s an absolutely barbaric practice. Banning it has been attempted before in Europe, but the ban didn’t go through. It was stopped by some group.
I hope it’ll encourage those that choose to be religious to think long and hard about what that entails. As a Jew, I recognize the historical importance of circumcision. The Abrahamic Covenant, which entails the Brit Milah, requires the circumcision happen on the 8th day after birth. It’s one of the most important convenants with Hashem. However, I find the practice to be just as repugnant as FGM (when it’s not for medical reasons). It’s one thing for an adult to make that choice, it’s entirely different for someone to make that decision for an infant. We don’t allow parents to beat their children, why do we allow them to cause this trauma?
Good
Title is misleading. The Green Party is not proposing this.
> The party’s Health Policy Working Group (HPWG) has launched a consultation seeking views
So there is a group inside the party considering to proposing it to the party conference. I am sure the actual party conference will shut the idea down.
I was a victim of this as a literal baby – my parents got me mutilated for religious reasons, but i never was religious at all. It’s fucked up in every way.
I’m all in for a ban on this barbaric practice, but we need such legislation to cover the case where parents will travel with the baby to a foreign country where it is allowed and perform it there.
I don’t understand how the genital mutilation of babies is currently allowed. This should be an easy decision.
Good. Children should be able to have a say in whether their bodies are mutilated permanently or not.
Hell yeah. No genital mutilation unless medically necessary. Religion is not a reason. Adults can do it to themselves if they so choose.
Ban.
It’s like kidney stone, we don’t cut it if isn’t a problem. Religion and it’s people can fick off. We don’t perform mutiliation on girls, we shouldn’t on boys.
It’s honestly maddening how much there is pushback against basic rights for boys. Men problems are always treated like it’s no big deal and shouldn’t be changed, always considered personal, never societal.