Vollständig autonome Drohnen haben erstmals menschliche Soldaten getötet
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time
Vollständig autonome Drohnen haben erstmals menschliche Soldaten getötet
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time
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This is how you know the tech bros won: even the killing is automated. Progress looks a lot like letting the machines handle the dirty work.
Atleast, noone can blame the pilot when there isn’t one left to blame.
*A senior figure in the Ukrainian defence industry told New Scientist that a test took place two years ago involving fully autonomous drones set to destroy anything in a given area, with confirmed casualties*
since it’s ukraine there is no rage . fuck russia but this is wrong
„A machine decided a human should die“ feels like something we should never become okay with.
The first time that we know of~
If this is really the first time i’ll eat my hat. First time publicly disclosed? sure.
Skynet’s online. Good luck, everyone!
This was inevitable. Coming up next: geofence area, send drone swarm to kill everything and anything in it, send new drones until most of them come back due to insufficient targets, then release guard drones to keep it that way. Not new idea at all.
Soon humans will kill fully autonomous drones, then the war of the machines will begin.
Hello Skynet
Just want to say congratulations. This is great, I’m so happy for you!
Looking forward to all of the awesomeness that will come from this!
Oh, and please don’t kill me or my family.
Thanks.
This is just the beginning of how war will change. I honestly think part of the reason the Ukraine war is continuing to happen in the form it has is so that governments can test and improve these technologies on the battlefield. Sadly the Ukrainians are paying an awful price for that live testing.
„We just launch it and we know everything will be dead – everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead,” says Kokhanovskyy. “There is no connection to the drone at all, you cannot see the video, nothing… Everything it sees will be killed.“
So it doesn’t discriminate between unarmed civilians or enemy soldiers. Wtf. Surely that’s the motive for war crime, ‚test‘ or not.
This is how killing becomes a statistic.
I’m Russian.
We’ve been using fully autonomous drones in Ukraine for close to 2 years by now. ZALA Lancet famously has a fully autonomous version and there are videos of it blowing up vehicles.
>“We tried it,” says drone-maker Alexander Kokhanovskyy, who supplied the technology and spoke to *New Scientist* at a press event hosted by the Ukrainian embassy. “It’s a test. We never implemented it [more widely].”
>The test took place two years ago and involved quadcopter drones that were programmed to fly towards the front line, cover between 3 and 5 kilometres over around 10 minutes and then engage “Terminator mode”, in which an AI model searches for and intercepts targets.
>“We just launch it and we know everything will be dead – everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead,” says Kokhanovskyy. “There is no connection to the drone at all, you cannot see the video, nothing… Everything it sees will be killed.”
>While there is no official international ban on autonomous weapons that can kill without human intervention, United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres has called for one, saying last year that “there is no place for lethal autonomous weapon systems in our world”.
>Mariarosaria Taddeo at the University of Oxford says killing with AI steals the dignity of the soldier, removes responsibility from the attacker and must be banned. “It’s not just problematic, it’s horrendous,” she says. “Do we want to be the society who kills other people, who allows their government to kill other people, without humans being involved?”
>Kokhanovskyy says that the Terminator project has not progressed since the test because of Ukraine’s rules. He is now CEO of drone-maker Aero Center, which he says was not involved in the test as it had not been created at the time, a Ukranian firm working on autonomous interceptor drones. These are designed to target incoming Russian Shahed kamikaze drones and take them out before they can reach towns and cities full of civilians or important infrastructure. “Every step of this one can be either manual or automatic. We’re not allowed to do the final stage automatically,” says Kokhanovskyy, who believes that the rules should change. “I would love to,” he says.
*mods yall better not remove this post, this is as technology as it gets
I do not like this.
I’d bet my life savings that Zuckerberg has several of these in his compounds.
“We just launch it and we know everything will be dead – everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead,” says Kokhanovskyy. “There is no connection to the drone at all, you cannot see the video, nothing… Everything it sees will be killed.”
That is disgusting. And it’s everyone’s problem.
Give it a few more generations and underneath, it’s a hyperalloy combat chassis, microprocessor-controlled. Fully armored; very tough. But outside, it’s living human tissue: flesh, skin, hair, blood..
Feel like I’ve seen this movie
This should be considered criminal. It’s such a dangerous precedent. The human decision is critical.
I honestly think this needs to be classed as a war crime before it’s too late. No I don’t want people killing people, but this has just SO MUCH potential to go so very wrong, and taking away the human cost of war will make them way too easy to start.
Yes, this will end well
It is my hope that 100 years from now, it will all be drone on drone warfare.
The next ‘milestone’ will be the first incident of friendly fire by autonomous drones against human soldiers. I wonder who will be held responsible when that happens?
Does the second amendment enable a billionaire like Elon Musk to own, say, 10k of these?
There are videos online of ‚dancing robots‘ kicking little children. It always gets a good laugh, it seems.
What I find strange is that nobody seems to be accountable for what happens. It’s just an accident.
If a human would kick a child during a parade for instance, I would assume people step up and ‚correct‘ that human in some way.
An entire girl school in Iran was bombed… AI was blamed. The public seems to have moved on as if nothing happened. No accountability anymore.
The weapon itself became the murderer. It’s easy to keep your conscience clean that way. (we should not allow that)
We’re about to slip on down the slipperiest of slippery slopes.
June 10th 2026…I was there when i started. Well not really *there* there, I was just on reddit.
Begun the Drone Wars have.
This violates the first law of robotics
Welcome to literal hell everyone.