I just want to take these internet-connected chatbots, strip out all the so-called „personality“, and just have them respond with a list of links to websites relevant to my query, sorted by relevancy.
…wait, now I’m just describing an old-school search engine.
terrorTrain on
I don’t mind AI assisted search, but what I don’t want is the AI giving me the answer. It’s fine if it reads the pages and tells me which page contains the information I want and where on the page. I really don’t want it trying to interpret all the pages for me and giving me some nonsense.
firedrakes on
a lower germany court.
worthless topic
PracticalOperator on
AI still hallucinates like crazy. We got by fine for decades without AI in our search engines, so obviously we don’t „need‘ it to search the internet.
meleecow on
Well they should be liable for statements sent out by their AI. I mean you can’t make a product then any issues say it’s not your fault.
If I buy a tickle me elmo and it tells me to off myself, they should be liable for issues that causes.
Is this the „doom“ of AI? No lol.
Ciappatos on
„Google AI Overview court loss in Germany could spell doom for AI search industry“ Dare I hope for good things?
IsThereAnythingLeft- on
I find the AI overview extremely useful
Confused_by_La_Vida on
It’ll be interesting to see what happens if the AI overlords decide to simply block access to all search engines made by them for those domains.
ReasonablyBadass on
Since all search engine algorithms come form AI research, that is technically not true.
Common_Senze on
Just search in Google what you want and then add reddit. It’ll give you what you need
radioactivecat on
I mean we kind of do, since search is so enshittified. I routinely use claude to wade through the garbage and SEO. I wish it weren’t the case, but this is where we are today.
boowax on
AI summaries remove the data we use for “bullshit detection” when reading the sources ourselves. So the summaries are worse than useless, they actively make it harder to find the right answer and know that it’s right.
hypernsansa on
Why would I want a lossy middleman getting between me and the info I seek? A solution just looking for a problem, desperately
carlitospig on
All it’s doing is clogging up my gui view. It’s utter crap. It’ll give you a summary but then you go to the linked sources and it says the opposite. Now I just scroll past it or go directly to sources (sigh, which means journal article searches take even longer).
irrelevantusername24 on
>According to a Google translation of the German court ruling, however, the false outputs were “primarily an expression of the defendant’s commercial activity,” and the AI tool’s “opinions” and false statements were capable of impacting public opinion.
>The court concluded that, in weighing the balance, publishers’ interest in removing the false information outweighed Google’s commercial speech rights.
Reality doesn’t have a politickal bias, contrary to the common phrase. And just because you, or someone, says something does not make that thing true. No matter who that person thinks they are.
Off topic? Nope. When somehow millions, or even billions, consistently „vote“ or act „against their own interests“? Well people aren’t stupid, contrary to the common sense. They have been mislead.
The nice thing about the Internet, including AI (eventually), is computers are at the most basic level a tool for finding the truth. They don’t tell you 2 + 2 = 5.
But they can tell you what x stands for in the following equation:`x + 2 = 5`
And, if you can stick with the metaphor long enough and extrapolate, they can help you figure out why you always get 2… while the lying shitbags get x
VVrayth on
AI has consistently been a „Guess what guys, you can do the thing you wanted, but worse“ deal. Just… go back to doing it the way you did it before, Google. It was fine and wasn’t broken.
RainSurname on
I sometimes feel like I’m the only person who just ignores the results under the All tab and goes straight to the Web tab, which will give you ordinary results, but I know I can’t be.
Be_quiet_Im_thinking on
It doesn’t even work when I’m trying to AI search the prices of competitors for each volume of stuff
ToolTimeT on
The whole point is AI isn’t research… standard internet search is research… AI is asking a question and taking whatever AI says as correct. And its not always so. Doing a standard non internet search without AI will provide you with links to info you can go read for yourself and get multiple sources and make an informed decision based on what you have read and who the source was… AI is just a data center spitting an answer back at you that you assume is fact after doing NO research.
grathungar on
Now get AI out of Maps please. It was great before. They started shoehorning AI into maps and if you disable it the basic version of maps is now horrible.
It purposely directs me to longer/slower routes. We tested with my wife’s phone in the same car. The non AI version now directs me to go the opposite direction I need to when heading home to get on a different freeway that will increase the mileage by about 10 miles. It also hits a super busy intersection.
Maps never did this before they started shoving AI into it. Its done it 10/10 times we tested it (different days each time) the AI version sends me on the same route it did before.
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I just want to take these internet-connected chatbots, strip out all the so-called „personality“, and just have them respond with a list of links to websites relevant to my query, sorted by relevancy.
…wait, now I’m just describing an old-school search engine.
I don’t mind AI assisted search, but what I don’t want is the AI giving me the answer. It’s fine if it reads the pages and tells me which page contains the information I want and where on the page. I really don’t want it trying to interpret all the pages for me and giving me some nonsense.
a lower germany court.
worthless topic
AI still hallucinates like crazy. We got by fine for decades without AI in our search engines, so obviously we don’t „need‘ it to search the internet.
Well they should be liable for statements sent out by their AI. I mean you can’t make a product then any issues say it’s not your fault.
If I buy a tickle me elmo and it tells me to off myself, they should be liable for issues that causes.
Is this the „doom“ of AI? No lol.
„Google AI Overview court loss in Germany could spell doom for AI search industry“ Dare I hope for good things?
I find the AI overview extremely useful
It’ll be interesting to see what happens if the AI overlords decide to simply block access to all search engines made by them for those domains.
Since all search engine algorithms come form AI research, that is technically not true.
Just search in Google what you want and then add reddit. It’ll give you what you need
I mean we kind of do, since search is so enshittified. I routinely use claude to wade through the garbage and SEO. I wish it weren’t the case, but this is where we are today.
AI summaries remove the data we use for “bullshit detection” when reading the sources ourselves. So the summaries are worse than useless, they actively make it harder to find the right answer and know that it’s right.
Why would I want a lossy middleman getting between me and the info I seek? A solution just looking for a problem, desperately
All it’s doing is clogging up my gui view. It’s utter crap. It’ll give you a summary but then you go to the linked sources and it says the opposite. Now I just scroll past it or go directly to sources (sigh, which means journal article searches take even longer).
>According to a Google translation of the German court ruling, however, the false outputs were “primarily an expression of the defendant’s commercial activity,” and the AI tool’s “opinions” and false statements were capable of impacting public opinion.
>The court concluded that, in weighing the balance, publishers’ interest in removing the false information outweighed Google’s commercial speech rights.
This just in: widespread disinformation is harmful for every level of society. „[Politickal strategists](https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1mdj9zz/what_americans_actually_think_about_taxes_by)“ in shambles. It turns out when language is intentionally crafted to obscure what is being discussed, that’s [bad](https://archive.org/details/adorno_jargon). Some might even call it lying.
Reality doesn’t have a politickal bias, contrary to the common phrase. And just because you, or someone, says something does not make that thing true. No matter who that person thinks they are.
Off topic? Nope. When somehow millions, or even billions, consistently „vote“ or act „against their own interests“? Well people aren’t stupid, contrary to the common sense. They have been mislead.
The nice thing about the Internet, including AI (eventually), is computers are at the most basic level a tool for finding the truth. They don’t tell you 2 + 2 = 5.
But they can tell you what x stands for in the following equation:`x + 2 = 5`
And, if you can stick with the metaphor long enough and extrapolate, they can help you figure out why you always get 2… while the lying shitbags get x
AI has consistently been a „Guess what guys, you can do the thing you wanted, but worse“ deal. Just… go back to doing it the way you did it before, Google. It was fine and wasn’t broken.
I sometimes feel like I’m the only person who just ignores the results under the All tab and goes straight to the Web tab, which will give you ordinary results, but I know I can’t be.
It doesn’t even work when I’m trying to AI search the prices of competitors for each volume of stuff
The whole point is AI isn’t research… standard internet search is research… AI is asking a question and taking whatever AI says as correct. And its not always so. Doing a standard non internet search without AI will provide you with links to info you can go read for yourself and get multiple sources and make an informed decision based on what you have read and who the source was… AI is just a data center spitting an answer back at you that you assume is fact after doing NO research.
Now get AI out of Maps please. It was great before. They started shoehorning AI into maps and if you disable it the basic version of maps is now horrible.
It purposely directs me to longer/slower routes. We tested with my wife’s phone in the same car. The non AI version now directs me to go the opposite direction I need to when heading home to get on a different freeway that will increase the mileage by about 10 miles. It also hits a super busy intersection.
Maps never did this before they started shoving AI into it. Its done it 10/10 times we tested it (different days each time) the AI version sends me on the same route it did before.