Ein experimenteller Antikörper könnte Menschen, die GLP-1-Medikamente einnehmen, dabei helfen, Muskelmasse zu erhalten
Ein experimenteller Antikörper könnte Menschen, die GLP-1-Medikamente einnehmen, dabei helfen, Muskelmasse zu erhalten
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When people drop weight on GLP-1 meds, they can also lose muscle. But a proof-of-concept drug might help preserve this lean tissue.
When taken at the same time as a powerful weight loss medication, the experimental antibody let patients hang on to lean body mass, scientists report June 8 in *Nature Medicine*.
The drug has not yet been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and is available only via intravenous infusions, so it’s not something consumers are likely to get their hands on any time soon, says study coauthor Richard Pratley, a clinician and metabolic disease researcher at the AdventHealth Translational Research Institute in Orlando, Fla. But the work cracks open the door on how to save muscle that might otherwise be lost. That may be good news for GLP-1 users, but important questions remain.
[**Read more here**](https://www.sciencenews.org/article/glp1-tirzepatide-muscle-lean-mass?utm_source=Reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=rmh) **and the** [**research article here.** ](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-026-04440-4)
Phase 2 (N=102) study with pretty good results. If I’m reading correctly, it prevents half of the normal lean body mass loss.
Take this drug to alleviate symptoms of this other drug your taking to alleviate….
I have read that a lot of what people perceive as muscle loss is actually intramuscular fat that increases muscle volume.
An alternative solution is eating a high protein diet and working out while on the glp1
‚From 18 June to 17 September 2024, 102 participants were enrolled and randomized to receive apitegromab 10 mg kg−1 every 4 weeks with tirzepatide (n = 51) or placebo every 4 weeks with tirzepatide (n = 51) (Fig. 1). ‚
This is a total of (for 100kg participants) 1g every 4 weeks, or perhaps 10g over an extended course.
$20000 at a bare minimum unless they do something really unusual with pricing.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19420862.2025.2451789#d1e180 is interesting in that it goes into cost of production and sale for monoclonal antibodies.
‚When converted into price per gram of drug substance (DS) used in the treatment, it ranges from $4,650 per gram to a remarkable $114,318,850 per gram.Citation6 As a more recent example at the low-price end, a mAb treatment for COVID-19 was mass procured by the US government at $2,100/dose, equivalent to ~$2,000 per gram. ‚
‚On the other hand, over the past few decades, cost of goods (COGs) for manufacturing mAbs has decreased significantly from ~$1,000s to $10s-$100s per gram due to improved manufacturing technology.Citation12–16 A gap between the price of ~$2,000s per gram (or higher) for mAb therapeutics and the current best-practice COGs $10s-$100s per gram implies a huge potential for mAb price reduction. Unlocking this potential requires careful examinations of all cost drivers and their contributions, including but not limited to, R&D spend and COGs. As the biosimilar market becomes increasingly competitive, along with rising demand for cost-effective antibodies for chronic and infectious diseases,Citation17–19 a clear understanding of the price structure will help industry players to identify directions to reduce the cost and price, stay competitive, and make mAbs affordable to more patients.‘
(I need to read this paper in full)
Loss of muscle mass is not some sort of side effect of GLP-1 so much as it’s just a side effect of weight loss. And there are solutions that don’t involve yet another medication.
This could be a game changer for bodybuilders/wrestlers/fighters who are cutting weight
If you just strength train while on GLP1s you can minimize muscle loss. It’s sedentary obese people using GLP1s and staying sedentary that causes a lot of muscle loss.
Working out while on GLP-1 also does that same thing.
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small…
Personally in the 3 years on it I’ve not lost any. In fact I’m stronger. I started Pilates and went through PT. I have been measured at the PT office for muscle and they like that it’s gaining. And I have done it slow staying on smaller doses and it seems to really help
People will do anything to avoid just living in a calorie deficit and lifting weights to lose weight.
The world doesn’t need more medicine or drugs for general use.
Is the experimental antibody “eating protein and getting off your ass”? Because that works just fine already
Just invent a new medicine to combat the old medicine, why not
Just another bandaid to avoid addressing the real problem (lifestyle)
It’ll be interesting to see the difference between this drug vs the regeneron approach, since apitegromab is way more selective than trevogrumab and garetosmab.
A legitimate myostatin inhibitor has been the holy Grail of the body building world for decades. Always right around the corner, always talked about, yet nothing ever materializes.
If a truly effective myostatin inhibitor becomes available as a intramuscular injection, like anabolic steroids or peptides, it’s gonna blow up big time.
Yes it’ll prevent muscle loss in a weight loss phase, but the real value will be how much muscle will it help build in a growth phase.
Exciting times
Ways people will maintain starving themselves always shock me.
Man these comments are brain dead.
Having a secondary way to fight muscle loss while on GLP-1 is a great thing for many reasons, but I’ll just list three:
1. Some people have limited mobility or other medical issues preventing or limiting their ability to utilize resistance training.
2. Some people have dietary restrictions that prevent them from consuming the recommended amount of Protein.
3. Even if you consume the correct amount of protein and perform endurance training, your body may still cutt muscle along with fat when eating a deficit.
For all three of these groups of people this medication would be hugely beneficial for them while they take glp-1. It’s an easy slam dunk if this medication ends up being healthy and available…. But for some reason the majority of the comments I’m seeing on this post are completely ignorant.
Isn’t this just an input and signal problem? Protein being the input and strength training being the signal. Getting the adequate amount of protein needed is no picnic, however.
Yup. Myostayin inhibitor. They are the holy grail of steroids. All the benefits (theoretically) with none of the downsides (theoretically).
„When diet and exercise fail…“
all people who diet are supposed to lift weights.
the muscle loss is only on par with calorie restriction…not the drug.
the only issue with GLP is they don’t teach any sustainable good habits.
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly…
Wonder if this could also be used to prevent atrophy for people with broken bones, or surgery that requires non use of a limb for extended periods.
Nobody will be more excited about this than the body building community
Or maybe people on GLP-1’s can do resistance training like anyone else who loses weight and it won’t be an issue.
Thank you all the over eager celebs and rich people who are live guinea pigs testing these drugs so we can actually consider them safe and viable in 2030.
These drugs are a capitalist dream come true.
Set up a system where the beauty ideal is a skinny, then sell addictive foods to make people fat, then sell them a drug to loose the weight they gained. Oh, and if you stop taking it, you gain the weight back.
It’s subscription weight loss.
Sooo what are the negative side effects to these GLP-1s?