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    Signal, DuckDuckGo und NordVPN drohen mit dem Austritt aus Kanada, wenn das Gesetz zur Metadatenüberwachung verabschiedet wird

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    1. flappysack- on

      Canada going the UK route, they likely want to bring back mass immigration without losing power so they need to censor things as hate speech.

    2. krunalpandya568 on

      they be asking like „we just want metadata“ as if metadata is not something which can reveal more than 80% of someone’s life

    3. tomsherlockaus on

      If the apps build around privacy are thinking of leaving , that’s probably a sign people are getting a little too comfortable with giving up privacy 👀

    4. EmbarrassedHelp on

      If you know anyone in Canada who uses WhatsApp, Signal, iMessage, and other encrypted apps, tell them to speak up now. Otherwise tell them to be prepared to pay for a foreign VPN to continue using the service. They may also need to create a foreign IOS/Google account to redownload the apps.

      The weakening of encryption and mandatory metadata retention requirements are incompatible with encrypted messaging.

    5. kuplet on

      This sort of thing needs to be more pushed back against. Having your metadata stolen is going to be a nightmare, if it happens.

    7. OldWrangler9033 on

      Not sounding great for the Great White North, hopefully wiser people will stomp on ill-advised moves by the few among the many politicians.

    8. napotih942 on

      Love these apps, but politicians should be banned from using them. It’s a huge problem in the US right now.

    9. Hobbette on

      Jfc I exclusively use DDG and Signal.
      Emailing and calling my MP’s because what in the actual fuck are they doing?

    11. Alone-Bug4328 on

      We have to FIGHT THE POWER.

      Don’t let up. We stopped the government from going through with the 15% streaming tax. We can do it again with C22

    13. Comfortable_Coffee4 on

      Doesn’t NordVPN already have an issue with this because they have servers in the US and etc?

    15. rodg2062 on

      This is where you support the companies. This would be an identify theft nightmare. And imagine the things the government could do with it. Talk about spying on a countries citizens. Maybe Canada has decided they want ot be more like China, North Korea, and Russia. Guess thats their right. I enjoy going to Canada, but whoa, this would change that.

    17. Krojack76 on

      The metadata for everyone that votes for things like this should be made public as well.

    18. dlevac on

      Any government that tries to sponsor such garbage is demonstrating unredeemable and dangerous incompetence and should be deemed unelectable forever after.

    19. unaccountablemod on

      what does it mean „leave“? We’ll just download their stuff when they move to their new place.

    20. Drafting- on

      I know that law enforcement can already do production orders for user data if it pertains to their criminal investigation. They don’t need a backdoor, this only creates a real security risk for user data in a time when we already have massive leaks.  

      I use signal because it doesn’t sell my data from every conversation. If they left Canada I would be really pissed. What a stupid bill. 

    21. Starduster75 on

      Come on, y’all? How are we ever going to get to total global surveillance and control if people push back like this?

    22. Secret_Account07 on

      So I use Windscribe for my VPN. I could have sworn they were based out of Canada

      Edit: yup they are in Canada. wtf
      Now luckily I connect to nodes outside Canada but would this force them to provide their data

    25. Icy-Computer-Poop on

      Everyone was so afraid of electing an ineffectual Conservative as PM that we elected an effectual Conservative as PM.

    26. Automatic_Biscotti39 on

      That’s fine, we will have already left too, so no bother at all.

      canada is full of top-flight software engineers. lmao

    27. whitepawn23 on

      The billionaire move on the world, surveillance, data, manipulation via bots on the internet, and trying to destroy open source, really isn’t isolated to the US.

    29. Lurk5FailOnSax on

      All they had to do do was keep fucking quiet and get what they can like every other government. Now the Canadians know…

    30. altSHIFTT on

      How the hell am I supposed to stop this? I have work tomorrow, no one fucking asked me if I wanted this, I don’t want it, now what?

    32. ThaddeusJP on

      If the internet as it is right now was created today there is no way in hell that you wouldn’t need a government ID to be able to access it, and it would probably also be treated like a metered utility and you would be billed by usage.

      The wild west days of the internet are pretty much over in governments and corporations are trying to remove anonymity and ring every last possible dollar out of people that they can.

    33. StabilityFetish on

      > The primary concern is that malicious actors would inevitably discover and exploit any digital backdoor, regardless of whether it was designed exclusively for law enforcement or domestic government agencies.

      No I’m just as concerned about the government having that backdoor

    35. MaximusHomerdrive on

      It’s no longer a virtual private network if they keep logs and let authorities in whenever they want. That is insane! It’s a crazy privacy violation.

    36. Fluffcake on

      There are sadly two sides to this coin. Absolutely no privacy, but this goes for bad actors and botswarms too.

    37. Pos3odon08 on

      „We are just scanning metadata“ was a big part of the US‘ defence when Edward Snowden came forward…

    38. Prize_Strawberry_918 on

      well that’s a BS bill. What else do they want us to do – record and retain all face to face conversations in case they want to „lawfully“ read them some day? This is so Orwellian. This better not pass.

    39. XionicativeCheran on

      It is no coincidence that so many nations are pushing this all at once.

      It’s insane just how much influence the people behind this have.

    40. DryBattle on

      Nice to see that Billionaires own everything in Canada as well.

      Next be ready to give up your healthcare because healthcare companies would rather pocket the profits.

    41. Effective_Olive6153 on

      why are governments always so obsessed with spying on their citizens? I get why dictatorships want to do it, because the Dear Leader is always paranoid and looking for enemies. But why are democratic nations doing it?

    42. aspectmin on

      This is extremely ill advised and will hurt Canadas competitiveness in the global state. 

      Not only have backdoors been found time and time again (just research some of the Windows stuff), but in an age of Mythos/Glasswing and their ilk, you can bet that any backdoor will be found in minutes (and exploited) by Nation State actors. 

      Sigh. Why do we keep having to fight this battle. 

    43. alexfi-re on

      That would be a bad choice, Canada, DDG is great and you should know that. The people almost fell for maple maga, but came to senses just in time and didn’t go that way, so don’t screw up with this either.

    45. markt- on

      Honestly, I’m a little disappointed that more companies aren’t on this list. If Microsoft or Apple got behind this, I could see Canada reversing course, because the cost would simply be too high.

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