Wie wir alle wissen, hatte die Familie von Henry Nowak den dringenden Wunsch, dass die Sache nicht politisiert wird. Ratet mal, was passiert ist, wir haben eine bestimmte Gruppe von Menschen, die ihre Wünsche diskriminiert ignoriert haben. Ich verurteile den gewalttätigen Protest in Southampton aufs Schärfste, hier ist der Grund:
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Von KSzkodaGames
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If they got on stage and said they wanted you to riot and burn down buildings would you meekly say “Welp I guess we have to do what the family asked for”
It’s their country. If they wanna protest their police taking part in a murder, it’s their right.
We know well how much peaceful protests work with for example our abortion protests.
Funny how truly patriotic Brittons get violent in memoriam of Polish immigrant. Same crowd indeed who had their salivating mouths shouting „f off dirty Poles..“. Same type of people who would build concentration camps because „they’re eating our squirrels“. All orchestrated by noble mr Farage and Robinson. 2 catalysts of our return to middle ages. But with iPads.
As someone currently in Britain (don’t worry, I’ll be back in the EU in a couple years), I can confirm politics here have devolved to the point it’s as bad as MAGA. Absolutely braindead bigoted takes being normalized in the right wing media (which is all the mainstream media). A supposedly Labour government gutting equality legislation through the backdoor and breaking its international human rights obligations. The Russian-paid traitor Farage using every opportunity to invite his bigoted followers into violence and just plain stupidity (painting roundabouts like you wouldn’t even see in a third world country). And yes, those same people will cheerfully hate Polish and other so-called Eastern European „immigrants“ the rest of the time. It’s absolutely opportunistic and vile. I don’t have much hope for this country, since brexshit it has cannibalized itself.
What a silly argument. If Henry’s peers were at the protest, were they also telling f*** of back to Poland back in 2015 when they were 7 years old?
No, you know what, who cares? „The family“ are not the ones who got stabbed and „politicizing it“ is how something gets done about it. Do I have to put it in my will that if I get murdered my parents don’t get to go on TV to say some stuff about peace and love?
And who cares if the people protesting it told someone to go back at some point? It’s their country, they’re allowed to have an opinion on immigration and still show compassion when someone gets murdered. I don’t want mass immigration to Poland either, but I’m still going to show compassion if an immigrant gets murdered in cold blood, like, what?
Henry Nowak was not Polish, Jesus.
It’s been years. Why are the most progressive people all of a sudden looking back into the past when it suits their narrative? UK and the people are now friendly to us Poles, I’ve experienced it first hand and many of my friends too. We also know that peaceful protests absolutely don’t work. As for the police officers getting injured, it’s part of the job.
The same people in Poland who in 2015 said that they don’t want migrants from Middle East because they have different culture now are against migrants from Ukraine.
Or they aren’t actually same people and your post is goomba fallacy
Knowing people who worked abroad on 2015, I’d say I’m not surprised they told them to fuck off
„We“? Or the british?
I don’t get it. First off, we have no idea if these were the same people, this is just a sentence designed to make people angry over unsubstantiated facts. Second off, the protest, from what I understand, is against police incompetence and/or sadism and has nothing to do with our country, I think Poles and all people in general who don’t pose a threat to others‘ safety shouldn’t be killed or endangered by incompetent police anywhere. If the British police doomed a man due to negligence, the people have the right to protest. In a non-violent way, mind you.
It’s their country, what is the problem? They seem to like Polish people now since they’re even demonstrating over the death of one. But in general it is nobody’s business to tell people who they want to let into their country. You won’t see me telling you that you are forced to take in violent criminals into your home, it is simply not my right to do so.
For sure the ‚protestors‘ are just street thugs being led by far right agitators who couldn’t give a fuck about Nowak and are just engaged in race-focused culture wars.
But let’s remember: Nowak was *not* Polish.
His dad is called Mark (not Marek), sounds as British as they come, and pronounces his own surname with a long English o (like in English ’no‘).
Peaceful protests never work.
So what?
WHITE LIVES MATTER
Both Robinson and Farage (and countless others) used to babble about Polish (and Romanian, Lithuanian, Albanian etc.) immigrants to get easy support, sure. But that’s the symptom of greater cultural problem: I believe that Eastern Europeans were an easy target, since there exists a prevailing idea in the UK that it’s ok to bash white people. And that’s the real problem that needs to be protested.
Just imagine: police confiscated phones of Henry and his Father to look for racist memes. In their eyes, letting the poor lad bleed to death would be okay if he ever shared a Green Pepe meme.
Attitude and behaviour of police on scene was also influenced by that prevailing idea; Henry was called a racist and hence he was immediately assumed as the one that started the altercation and did not receive proper care as someone clinging to his life.
i mean, so what?
now they know,
many of them regret their vote after seeing what came to UK instead of Poles and Romanians 😛
We should politicise it and remove whatever law allows to carry knifes for religious purposes!
The parents delivered a statement prepared by the British government. Otherwise they would probably not let them make it publicly.
People mention 2015… But before the aughts, there was a wave of Polish immigrants to the UK, and oh boy, were they hated, people were rather upset when they needed to do works around the house and the only available handymen were poles, source: grew up in Southampton in the 90s. The Polish worker/ppl hatred in EU goes back quite a bit I think
What do you mean not politicise, this poor guy died because police officers were more interested in fake racism allegations than a man bleeding out to death and begging for help.
This case is all about what’s wrong with the west right now, and it’s all about politics. You cannot just tell people to „not politicise it“ because it makes your ideology look silly
So you’d rather the people that “told Poles to f*** off” (bold of you to claim they are literally the *same* people tbh) just stay at home not thinking about it rather than being so emotionally charged by such an injustice that they *peacefully* (it was the police who made it violent) protest in favour of a person of Polish heritage? And even *if* they really are the same people, wouldn’t it be better for them to display a change of mindset rather than double down and not give a damn? Even if you’re statements were true, your point is contradictory. Besides, if people do f*** all how do you expect things to change? Just carrying on with life hoping they will? Stupid post.
Also, they had every right to tell Polish people to fuck off back to Poland in 2015, I don’t see anything wrong with it. It’s their nation.
„can we stop politicizing a death caused by politics?”
Aha.
But they have my blessing now. They can and they should protest.
this murder is a direct result of politics. it was political from the moment he got stabbed. either you care about politics or politics comes knocking on your door.
ie. it is YOU who are weaponing the immature coping mechanism of a grieving family.
And invasion by r/polska on r/poland continues.
Henry Nowak was of Polish descent. His Grandfather moved to England during the war, he was mostly English.
Skąd wiesz czy to „same people“? Nie wiesz. Nie absolutnie pojęcia. Mówisz tak by fikcyjnie wesprzeć swój narratyw. Twój post jest niczym innym jak manipulacją, która ironicznie upolitycznia tą sytuację.
Not all people who are outraged by this are racists. Not all people are outraged because they hate POC. There are people outraged at the police behaviour. Let’s not start generalising here and giving into the divide and conquer strategy.
„The same“? You mean, you have a list of people, and you have compared participants then and now?
What this has to do with Poland?