Tristin Hopper: Die „Gräber“ der Wohnschule in Kamloops hätten die ganze Zeit über aus Klärgruben bestehen können; Fünf Jahre nach der brisanten Ankündigung von 215 Kindergräbern ist die Ausgrabung die einzige Möglichkeit, herauszufinden, was sich unter der Erde befindet.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/kamloops-residential-school-graves
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“Go dig up your grandma who died of old age, we’re not digging up these murdered people to prove anything”
Yes I’ve heard this argument. We should “dig up our relatives” first before they’ll do any excavation. Is there not any First Nations people that went to school for archeology? Christ.
Several years ago I was part of a project to find buried oil tanks. We couldn’t find a GPR company that would take any liability for their scans. It was kind of like dealing with home inspectors. No real professional responsibility and a long list of disclaimers.
When you can’t trust the method to find big steel tanks underground, it’s not worth relying on for other important purposes.
This should have been done ages ago but no, it has had to drag through the court of public opinion so that there is no resolution for those who have reason to believe loved ones were disposed of callously and they are revictimized by racists who choose to discredit anything on the basis of their bias.
Actually digging and finding out would be a threat to the whole project.
It was never about the truth. It’s about pushing an imagined version of events that may or may not have happened that can be used to justify the perpetual gravy train and grift.
The *possibility* that they excavate and find no evidence is exactly why the excavation never happened. They’re afraid the truth might undermine the narrative.
Emperor’s new clothes.
The people who control the narrative dont want the truth to be know. They want the public to accept their version without question. If they are there let’s address it. If they are not there let’s address that as well.
Pipes and gravesites would have looked completely different under LiDAR. Give me a frickin‘ break, National Post
Edit: I meant GPR not LiDAR
I feel like if they really thought any of these were real they would done the easiest thing possible to prove it by now.
But hey I’m no scientist.
The same people who criticized the government for jumping to conclusions are jumping to conclusions. Interesting.
„the suspected graves were all identified as lying at a depth of about 800 centimetres, roughly two-and-a-half feet.“
Who is doing these conversions?
Who knew?!
While it bears worth questioning, it seems to me that the why now is a concerted effort by American media to ignite the fuse on something while Alberta is doing its Referendum.
National post and subsidiaries wont stop spamming it right now, and I’m sure other agencies are picking up the story too.
100%, I believe its right to question wtf happened here.
100% I believe they’re not doing it in good faith, and are aiming to revive Trudeau era bullshit to fan flames of discontent.
Regardless of what is or isn’t in the ground in that particular location there are literal records of children dying in the „care“ of these schools. It should not matter whether or not the graves are ever opened. May they rest in Peace.
I would like a comment from Justin Trudeau about this. After his comments and behavior threw every Canadian into an international spotlight on this.
Ottawa pledged $320 million towards the confirmation of mass graves, that money is dust in the wind and not a spade has broken ground.
I have never understood why a select few in the sites could not have been carefully excavated until the validity of the radar test results has been verified or discounted. Having said that, I can also understand why indigenous groups would not want to risk having the truth come out if there are few actual burials.
While official records are incomplete, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada (TRC) has documented the deaths of over 4,000 children at residential schools. However, researchers and Indigenous leaders estimate the true death toll is much higher, ranging between 6,000 and 25,000 due to disease, neglect, and abuse.
How many is enough for you?
Man you wouldn’t know but nat po cared about the kids who were killed
This is an opinion piece.
I’m an amateur metal detectorist. If I has a nickle for every time my detector rang, sounding like something valuable (detectors can give different sounds for different targets), only to find the tab of a pop can or beer cap, I could buy a new detector.
No refunds.
It’s almost like the whole thing was a distraction to provoke moral outrage
Our government is a professional gaslighting machine. When does it just become blatant lying?
I really hope that even if they don’t find the graves, it’s not used by certain people to say see you were wrong, which means none of this shit actually happened. Because these residential schools were terrible.
Coo
Cc.
Don’t forget that kids died a lot more often back then from all walks of life—I’m not saying the neglect and disdain held by the faculty of these english christian conversion schools was equal to what a family in a village or town did or felt when they had a kid die, but I am saying that in the latter case, those bodies were found and recovered a lot sooner, being in people’s backyards if the family was poor or ashamed (and many were), while these semi-education-semi-torture schools tended to be built further from society—hence no modern construction crews finding the remains way earlier in the 19th century.
Then excavate and get this conversation over with already. I would like to be able to celebrate Canada Day again without being a POS
/s
More articles about this „mass graves hoax“? This is actually the fourth article in four days. And every single one of those articles fills up with people sharing their genocide denialism and downplaying of the horrific crimes that happened at the residential schools.
It’s been five years of this absurd „mass graves hoax“ and conservatives just can’t let it go. Nobody’s been calling them mass graves for five years, and even then it was a handful of reporters who did.
Church records have already shown that children died (and were abused) at these horrific schools in large numbers.
Children died there, that is a fact.
Rather than enter into reconciliation, we just keep finding ways to distract us and avoid the difficult reality.
> she did mention how strange it was that the suspected graves were all identified as lying at a depth of about 800 centimetres, roughly two-and-a-half feet.
Hilariously bad math aside, I’m not sure I understand the point of this opinion piece. If it’s news, make it a news piece. If it’s opinion, who cares that your opinion is pipes may be in that field? (Well to be clear, I understand the *point* of the piece, and it’s certainly not „getting the truth“ or whatever)
Far more importantly though, it’s a really bad sign that the anti-Indigenous commenters have moved on from „they should dig“ to „it was all a hoax and they’re just grifters“.
Surely it has nothing to do with the constant torrent of op-eds from Nat Po implying that might be the case.
I don’t really understand how these threads can stay up, it’s just wall-to-wall misinformation and racism, with like, a handful of genuinely confused posters who quickly get swallowed up by the misinformation.
I’ve never understood why people were so upset about this if they were graves. Do they not understand that unless you are spending money on tombstones, that wooden crosses and the like get weathered, damaged and disappear over time?
What you should be upset by is the long running abuse of native Canadians by the Canadian government. This whole school grave thing is a weird lightning rod.