Yes, no surprise. Women have a massive in-group bias, with some evidence suggesting they view the majority of men as below average.
TurboCobra77 on
Does this explain why women feel significantly more pressure about their appearance than men do? If the whole world is subconsciously holding female faces to a higher standard of attractiveness that has real social consequences beyond just an interesting study result.
EctoEmpire on
I know the article said it’s controlling outside factors, but what exactly does that mean? Is this accounting for makeup? And women also take more care for fashion and skin care. Does this account for that? I quickly skimmed the article and couldn’t find the actual study, just vague comments. I feel like a study like this needs all makeup and hairstyle removed from factors.
XjpuffX on
Women just are hotter than men in general. Hot men exist but are rarer
DoctorLinguarum on
Women think women are hotter in general.
luckystrike_bh on
Women also have to perceive if other women are a threat due to them being more attractive. They could potentially steal resources from their mate.
StormFalcon32 on
I mean it makes sense, evolutionarily women probably get a bigger reproduction advantage out of being pretty than men do. Men can lean more on factors like wealth, status, leadership, etc
rowanhenry on
I mean, women are the most beautiful thing on this planet, so I understand.
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Chimmychimm on
With or without makeup?
JeskaiJester on
Happy Pride, everybody
Ketchup571 on
I mean it makes sense. In my experience women way overestimate the attractiveness of other women
CeaseFireForever on
“Men are beautiful” – me, a gay man
Sintax777 on
Unless if you are shaving the heads of both groups of participants and stripping them of all makeup and skin care products and placing them on an equal footing, this is just dumb? „People rate people’s faces who put more time, money, and effort into looks more attractive. Even the people who put the most time, money, and effort!“ Who would have guessed. Especially among women, [who tend to show more ingroup bias.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/), at least in implicit attitude studies.
And why is this garbage in r/science?
brattysub38 on
Skincare is your friend
JaneMarie876 on
Shouldn’t you find whatever gender you’re attracted to the most attractive? I think women can be very beautiful but I’d never say I find them more attractive than men overall since I’m straight. I’d find it odd if straight men found men more attractive too.
gahidus on
I would say that this supports still generally held notion that women simply are more beautiful than men. It’s unsurprising.
Elctric on
I’m not surprised, whenever I’m in a mainly women filled group and they say that one girl is pretty (when she’s really not) I just side eye. The bias is real, the average person looks quite well average and women are no different.
olddoglearnsnewtrick on
I misread faeces and was flabbergasted.
HenkPoley on
Yeah, OkCupid kind of showed that most men are rated as not that attractive by women, but they contact them regardless of what the number implies to say. That said, the top 20% get basically all the attention, so it’s skewed. A bit as if men are rated on the same curve together with women.
I don’t think „yeah I mean, women are hotter“ is a great response. If anything, that only says that female beauty is *normalized*. Men’s characteristic and distinct features could very well be considered objects of beauty, but they’re not. Culture plays a big role.
Fra5er on
In a world where more and more women hate men, this is likely a shock to nobody
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Yes, no surprise. Women have a massive in-group bias, with some evidence suggesting they view the majority of men as below average.
Does this explain why women feel significantly more pressure about their appearance than men do? If the whole world is subconsciously holding female faces to a higher standard of attractiveness that has real social consequences beyond just an interesting study result.
I know the article said it’s controlling outside factors, but what exactly does that mean? Is this accounting for makeup? And women also take more care for fashion and skin care. Does this account for that? I quickly skimmed the article and couldn’t find the actual study, just vague comments. I feel like a study like this needs all makeup and hairstyle removed from factors.
Women just are hotter than men in general. Hot men exist but are rarer
Women think women are hotter in general.
Women also have to perceive if other women are a threat due to them being more attractive. They could potentially steal resources from their mate.
I mean it makes sense, evolutionarily women probably get a bigger reproduction advantage out of being pretty than men do. Men can lean more on factors like wealth, status, leadership, etc
I mean, women are the most beautiful thing on this planet, so I understand.
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With or without makeup?
Happy Pride, everybody
I mean it makes sense. In my experience women way overestimate the attractiveness of other women
“Men are beautiful” – me, a gay man
Unless if you are shaving the heads of both groups of participants and stripping them of all makeup and skin care products and placing them on an equal footing, this is just dumb? „People rate people’s faces who put more time, money, and effort into looks more attractive. Even the people who put the most time, money, and effort!“ Who would have guessed. Especially among women, [who tend to show more ingroup bias.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/), at least in implicit attitude studies.
And why is this garbage in r/science?
Skincare is your friend
Shouldn’t you find whatever gender you’re attracted to the most attractive? I think women can be very beautiful but I’d never say I find them more attractive than men overall since I’m straight. I’d find it odd if straight men found men more attractive too.
I would say that this supports still generally held notion that women simply are more beautiful than men. It’s unsurprising.
I’m not surprised, whenever I’m in a mainly women filled group and they say that one girl is pretty (when she’s really not) I just side eye. The bias is real, the average person looks quite well average and women are no different.
I misread faeces and was flabbergasted.
Yeah, OkCupid kind of showed that most men are rated as not that attractive by women, but they contact them regardless of what the number implies to say. That said, the top 20% get basically all the attention, so it’s skewed. A bit as if men are rated on the same curve together with women.
[Your Looks and Your Inbox « OkTrends](https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyourinbox.html) (gwern mirror)
I don’t think „yeah I mean, women are hotter“ is a great response. If anything, that only says that female beauty is *normalized*. Men’s characteristic and distinct features could very well be considered objects of beauty, but they’re not. Culture plays a big role.
In a world where more and more women hate men, this is likely a shock to nobody