Imagine Walmart having the ability to do dynamic pricing to charge more for toilet paper because they know you have diarrhea.
rextex34 on
Corporations are not beholden to what consumers want.
Bireus on
> Walmart, which has patented AI-powered price changes, has been rolling out electronic shelf labels across its stores, and it aims to feature them in every U.S. location by the end of 2026. But the company has insisted it’s not going to use ESLs for jacking up prices and insists that a human manager must be in the loop when prices change.
Ahhhhhh. Kill competition and become the defaco face and increase prices to earn back everyone you use to get there and then some.
Starship_Taru on
If the majority of Americans got what they wanted the country would look almost 100% different.
I don’t even mean republicans vs democrats. There are 1000+ issues 90% of Americans agree on but will never make it into law.
HNL2BOS on
„Twenty percent say it will likely just keep prices the same.“
those idiots are worse than the 5% people saying it’ll lead to lower costs. They wouldn’t be doing this if not to lead to either higher or lower (hahaha) costs.
TemporarySun314 on
Somehow in other countries electronic shelf labels are quite common (I mean they are just useful and efficient), and no one switching the price for butter or eggs 10 times a day.
I mean if you are worried, then make laws to regulate that, that would also fix the fundamental problem of having unpredictable pricing on basic groceries, instead of banning the electronic shelf labels that are just a tool…
physedka on
Imagine how awful it’s going to be at the Wal-Mart check out lanes when people get to the register with $25 worth of stuff and find out that it now costs $30 because prices changed since they pulled it off the shelf 10 minutes ago.
RoomyRoots on
Yeah no shit, there is not defense to this for the costumers.
Kill3rT0fu on
Say one thing
Vote for another
VideoGameDevArtist on
The headline could have ended at „surveillance“
DISCONNECTlE on
Stop shopping at places that start this crap. Problem solved. Next problem.
Dernom on
Wait, isn’t electronic labels standard practice in America? I don’t think I’ve seen a non-electronic shelf label in at least a decade in my country. And why is „surveillance pricing“ being connected to electronic shelf labels in the articles? You. an easily have one without the other.
BoopinSnoots24-7 on
Feels like it would be pretty simple to legislate against this while keeping the practicality of digital price tags. Price changes for brick and mortar retail businesses must occur before opening or after closing, not during business hours, or something along those lines.
thinkmatt on
I support digital labels – it’s a huge waste of time, and sometimes they’re incorrect because the store employees haven’t had time to replace them. Of course it could be abused – but couldn’t they do this already with websites? Doesn’t seem like it’s that much of an issue.
nuttageyo on
Does it matter? If they want it to happen then it’ll happen.
RdtRanger6969 on
Dynamic pricing gone amok.
Hell, let’s make DP illegal while we’re at it.
Adventurous_Pea_2007 on
Electronic shelf labels are objectively good. It’s labor and resources saved.
Surveillance pricing is the problem.
AvailableReporter484 on
If / when this happens we will absolutely see a drop off in people buying shit, and you know how much the economy prospers when mfs don’t buy shit LMFAO
stompanata on
Majority of Americans support a lot of things that we ain’t ever gonna get cause it gets in the way of sweet, sweet profit.
smoothtrip on
What is the difference between this and what airlines do?
YogurtApprehensive84 on
Majority of politicians and billionaires think those Americans can suck it and will do this anyway.
SeeingEyeDug on
These articles are dumb. Majority of people against getting raped. Yeah, no duh.
No-Cat9412 on
How long has it been since what the majority of Americans wanted meant anything?
Haunterblademoi on
Now they want to monitor everything; it doesn’t make any sense.
MaxHeadroom1986 on
Any retailer that does this isn’t just losing my business forever, I’m going to go out of my way to cost them money through legal and illegal means
kstargate-425 on
How about a ban on all corporate and government surveillance domestically? When there are literally 100s of Flock cameras and microphones within 1 mile, we have gone beyond any measure of safety and are now in a mass surveillance police state
Moscato359 on
Ban on electronic shelf labels is kinda dumb
Ban on updating them more than once daily makes sense
Paksarra on
As someone who works in the grocery industry, they’re two different issues.
Stores have done dynamic pricing for decades. It’s through this amazing invention called a coupon. It’s a lot easier and less risky to put digital coupons on your account than to dynamically change an ESL to fit whoever is looking at it and hoping that the AI recognition is right and they’re not shopping with someone else and there’s no other glitches.
And what do you do when someone comes to customer service and says the shelf tag said the $59.99 item was actually $29.99? You can’t just have someone run back and check the shelf. You can either take their word for it or risk a complaint to the state.
But ESLs are going to everywhere for a reason. Remember during the COVID labor crunch when a bunch of stores were getting nailed for having incorrect pricing? It’s because putting up shelf labels is a tedious, labor-intensive task, and swapping to digital bypasses the need for all that labor.
bluenoser613 on
LOL how cute Americans think they have a say
mountaindoom on
So, they could change based on income or like whatever, right? This reeks of discrimination.
memefaliure on
I can think of only %1 of people who love these
bird9066 on
My first thought when I heard about dynamic pricing at Walmart was they’ll jack them up on the first week of the month. Because food stamps
RepresentativeCod757 on
If a majority of Americans support it, it will never, ever happen at the federal level.
NoaNeumann on
I forget, is “price surging” still a thing? I know Wendy’s tried implemented it a while ago.
Scooby_doo_1969 on
I work at a store that uses these. We should ban them.
endofworldandnobeer on
Other than essentials, I can’t and won’t buy anything that’s not on sale, so fuck them. Besides, Costco doesn’t do this shit.
vertigostereo on
Who wouldn’t? You can’t know who will benefit and who will lose. It’ll even depend where you shop
hackingdreams on
And they act like we’re crazy for it too. Like, gas prices being dynamic are bad enough, let’s do that for every grocery item on the shelf too! Nothing better than picking something off the shelf and having its price changed by the time you reach the checkout counter.
Gooser3000 on
It sux watching prices increase as I plan a trip bouncing around airlines and hotels; shopping around ends up costing me more money. They must be tracking the ip address
northerlypier on
my new fave hobby is bringing stuff up front gor a price check, if i dont like the price i set it down and walk away…
MacroMicro1313 on
Majority of people dislike being price gouged
Ancient-Bat8274 on
No fucking shit
Adept-Opinion8080 on
Electronic price tags are not a problem, so long as there’s a way to audit the fact that they’re not surveillance pricing
Twinstonedad on
I wish this country’s political apparatus gave a shit about what the majority of Americans thought about anything, but alas it does not.
Sterling_-_Archer on
Yeah but they won’t. Our government has been captured by corporate interests.
Silly-Pitch-2565 on
They’re trying to turn food and consumer goods into live market pricing. Prices would be updated as they receive supplier pricing updates. So if today they have to buy a product wholesale for X, and tomorrow that price is up, the price tag goes up immediately, not after the inventory is depleted and replenished. It’s basically turning everything into a futures market instead of „we paid x for this, so we will charge y for it“. Now it will be „we paid x for this item that’s already on the shelves, but the supplier price for our FUTURE purchase of this product is now higher, so we’re going to charge you that higher price for our current stock now.“ It’s unethical.
RomulanTreachery on
Last time I worked retail, I said we should have electronic labels because of the enormous amount of weekly paper waste we had for just one store in terms of printing and re-printing labels and all the printed sticker labels for the weekly sales. It didnt even occur to me that it could be used for these kinds of pricing scams. I guess that lack of evil thinking is why I’m not a big success
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Imagine Walmart having the ability to do dynamic pricing to charge more for toilet paper because they know you have diarrhea.
Corporations are not beholden to what consumers want.
> Walmart, which has patented AI-powered price changes, has been rolling out electronic shelf labels across its stores, and it aims to feature them in every U.S. location by the end of 2026. But the company has insisted it’s not going to use ESLs for jacking up prices and insists that a human manager must be in the loop when prices change.
Ahhhhhh. Kill competition and become the defaco face and increase prices to earn back everyone you use to get there and then some.
If the majority of Americans got what they wanted the country would look almost 100% different.
I don’t even mean republicans vs democrats. There are 1000+ issues 90% of Americans agree on but will never make it into law.
„Twenty percent say it will likely just keep prices the same.“
those idiots are worse than the 5% people saying it’ll lead to lower costs. They wouldn’t be doing this if not to lead to either higher or lower (hahaha) costs.
Somehow in other countries electronic shelf labels are quite common (I mean they are just useful and efficient), and no one switching the price for butter or eggs 10 times a day.
I mean if you are worried, then make laws to regulate that, that would also fix the fundamental problem of having unpredictable pricing on basic groceries, instead of banning the electronic shelf labels that are just a tool…
Imagine how awful it’s going to be at the Wal-Mart check out lanes when people get to the register with $25 worth of stuff and find out that it now costs $30 because prices changed since they pulled it off the shelf 10 minutes ago.
Yeah no shit, there is not defense to this for the costumers.
Say one thing
Vote for another
The headline could have ended at „surveillance“
Stop shopping at places that start this crap. Problem solved. Next problem.
Wait, isn’t electronic labels standard practice in America? I don’t think I’ve seen a non-electronic shelf label in at least a decade in my country. And why is „surveillance pricing“ being connected to electronic shelf labels in the articles? You. an easily have one without the other.
Feels like it would be pretty simple to legislate against this while keeping the practicality of digital price tags. Price changes for brick and mortar retail businesses must occur before opening or after closing, not during business hours, or something along those lines.
I support digital labels – it’s a huge waste of time, and sometimes they’re incorrect because the store employees haven’t had time to replace them. Of course it could be abused – but couldn’t they do this already with websites? Doesn’t seem like it’s that much of an issue.
Does it matter? If they want it to happen then it’ll happen.
Dynamic pricing gone amok.
Hell, let’s make DP illegal while we’re at it.
Electronic shelf labels are objectively good. It’s labor and resources saved.
Surveillance pricing is the problem.
If / when this happens we will absolutely see a drop off in people buying shit, and you know how much the economy prospers when mfs don’t buy shit LMFAO
Majority of Americans support a lot of things that we ain’t ever gonna get cause it gets in the way of sweet, sweet profit.
What is the difference between this and what airlines do?
Majority of politicians and billionaires think those Americans can suck it and will do this anyway.
These articles are dumb. Majority of people against getting raped. Yeah, no duh.
How long has it been since what the majority of Americans wanted meant anything?
Now they want to monitor everything; it doesn’t make any sense.
Any retailer that does this isn’t just losing my business forever, I’m going to go out of my way to cost them money through legal and illegal means
How about a ban on all corporate and government surveillance domestically? When there are literally 100s of Flock cameras and microphones within 1 mile, we have gone beyond any measure of safety and are now in a mass surveillance police state
Ban on electronic shelf labels is kinda dumb
Ban on updating them more than once daily makes sense
As someone who works in the grocery industry, they’re two different issues.
Stores have done dynamic pricing for decades. It’s through this amazing invention called a coupon. It’s a lot easier and less risky to put digital coupons on your account than to dynamically change an ESL to fit whoever is looking at it and hoping that the AI recognition is right and they’re not shopping with someone else and there’s no other glitches.
And what do you do when someone comes to customer service and says the shelf tag said the $59.99 item was actually $29.99? You can’t just have someone run back and check the shelf. You can either take their word for it or risk a complaint to the state.
But ESLs are going to everywhere for a reason. Remember during the COVID labor crunch when a bunch of stores were getting nailed for having incorrect pricing? It’s because putting up shelf labels is a tedious, labor-intensive task, and swapping to digital bypasses the need for all that labor.
LOL how cute Americans think they have a say
So, they could change based on income or like whatever, right? This reeks of discrimination.
I can think of only %1 of people who love these
My first thought when I heard about dynamic pricing at Walmart was they’ll jack them up on the first week of the month. Because food stamps
If a majority of Americans support it, it will never, ever happen at the federal level.
I forget, is “price surging” still a thing? I know Wendy’s tried implemented it a while ago.
I work at a store that uses these. We should ban them.
Other than essentials, I can’t and won’t buy anything that’s not on sale, so fuck them. Besides, Costco doesn’t do this shit.
Who wouldn’t? You can’t know who will benefit and who will lose. It’ll even depend where you shop
And they act like we’re crazy for it too. Like, gas prices being dynamic are bad enough, let’s do that for every grocery item on the shelf too! Nothing better than picking something off the shelf and having its price changed by the time you reach the checkout counter.
It sux watching prices increase as I plan a trip bouncing around airlines and hotels; shopping around ends up costing me more money. They must be tracking the ip address
my new fave hobby is bringing stuff up front gor a price check, if i dont like the price i set it down and walk away…
Majority of people dislike being price gouged
No fucking shit
Electronic price tags are not a problem, so long as there’s a way to audit the fact that they’re not surveillance pricing
I wish this country’s political apparatus gave a shit about what the majority of Americans thought about anything, but alas it does not.
Yeah but they won’t. Our government has been captured by corporate interests.
They’re trying to turn food and consumer goods into live market pricing. Prices would be updated as they receive supplier pricing updates. So if today they have to buy a product wholesale for X, and tomorrow that price is up, the price tag goes up immediately, not after the inventory is depleted and replenished. It’s basically turning everything into a futures market instead of „we paid x for this, so we will charge y for it“. Now it will be „we paid x for this item that’s already on the shelves, but the supplier price for our FUTURE purchase of this product is now higher, so we’re going to charge you that higher price for our current stock now.“ It’s unethical.
Last time I worked retail, I said we should have electronic labels because of the enormous amount of weekly paper waste we had for just one store in terms of printing and re-printing labels and all the printed sticker labels for the weekly sales. It didnt even occur to me that it could be used for these kinds of pricing scams. I guess that lack of evil thinking is why I’m not a big success