Die Menschen sehnen sich nicht nach Automatisierung: „Jeder in der Technik weiß, wie sehr normale Menschen KI ablehnen. Was ihnen meiner Meinung nach fehlt, ist der Grund.“
https://www.theverge.com/podcast/917029/software-brain-ai-backlash-databases-automation
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Automating everyone out of a job with AI (of anything else) is putting the cart before the horse. If we have no jobs but still live in a capitalist society where you need a full time job (or multiple!) to live, the problem is pretty obvious.
I don’t know what all the C-suite morons think is going to happen when a large percentage of the population is jobless. The only thing keeping the guillotines at bay right now is that people are too busy working to live, so they can’t afford to protest. Remove that barrier and something is going to give.
Then there’s the part where we automate people out of the things they *enjoy* doing, which is also dumb.
With that said, I’m very pro-AI. I think it’s potentially revolutionary in many fields. But you can’t ignore the elephant in the room.
I enjoyed automating routine, repetitive tasks to free up bandwidth, but AI feels like it is being applied for enshittification of quality using automation that doesn’t provide as good of results as previous, manual systems. It’s automating away things better not left up to a busywork script.
Even when you’re using it as a coding helper rather than to replace a system better done without the use of AI, it feels more like delegaton than like automation, and I never really wanted to be a manager.
Can we just let it be the glorified ~~search~~ guess engine that it is and stop the bullshit?
It’s just being used as a front for companies to act on their worst tendencies. Notice you haven’t heard any of these clowns mention “AGI” in a hot minute.
Capital looking to eliminate the last vestiges of labors power.
No thanks. Not all of us were born rich.
At my job, we have to use AI for software development. I’m a dev lead and my experience is that code written by AI is a constant coaching of an intern that simply won’t learn from its mistakes.
An intern or a junior always requires a lot of coaching and guidance to develop them into competent developers. You need to explain their mistakes and explain best practices and best ways to work. There is satisfaction with helping them get better and a sense of fulfilment.
With AI, you don’t have that. It’s a constant stream of (bad) code reviews and retelling AI what I want. No matter the agent, skills I set. It really gives that uncanny valley feeling. This is not fun and syphon all the joy I have doing my work.
People want automation. Who doesn’t want to have to do less? But people also want to keep their jobs so they don’t become homeless and starve to death. Those are not mutually exclusive things.
„What I think they’re missing is why“
JFC, you have to a total shit-for-brains to not understand why people don’t like AI.
The why is the very obvious shortsighted behavior of firing everyone.
It’d be a great augmentation if we just used it as an enhancement tool instead of putting people out of work.
Tech fired all their AI ethics departments in 2022 and 2023 after they all published the same articles that AI advancements needed to slow to the speed of adoption and affordability. They were calling for AI to work in partnership with people not act as a replacement. They were worried about the civil unrest and a blowback against that would really hamper the long-term development. Tech CEOs chose to just barrel through and silence the dissent.
I don’t think AI has all the world solving potential it’s been sold as. I use AI for image generation for my job as an art director. It’s an infuriating thing to use as the amount of iterations it requires for a usable image. It’s more of an extension for Photoshop as I still need to composite and edit what I’m trying to create, which is mostly mockup type art to sell an idea or design. As image generation it seems if you’re trying to just create an interesting image, if works but it’s rough as a tool.
Turns out clients don’t want a wrapper app that hallucinates 20% of the time. They just wanted a reliable database with a decent UI all along.
It’s not automation that’s the issue. AI isn’t taking over the jobs people don’t want to do, it’s taking the jobs wealthy CEOs don’t want people to have.
Right like I have never once wanted to do anything faster at work. For what purpose? To make the same amount of money?
What the article is sort of getting at, if you zoom out further, is that Silicon Valley epitomizes unexamined progress. You can’t just assume that if is something is done faster or more efficiently by certain metrics that it makes people happier. And it people aren’t happier, why are we doing it?
This is coupled with a lot of myths about scarcity, implying that people will starve or die of illness if we don’t constantly race toward technical advancement. In fact food scarcity, for example, is almost entirely a distribution problem, which is to say one mostly solvable by ending human made problems like embargoes and wealth redistribution (vs inventing new GMOs).
Even if AI could improve quality of life, it’s obvious that rushing it without a plan for social welfare (or just better studying its efficacy) is madness. Sure, let’s gamble everything on the unlikely chance next year we have a utopia where nobody works because Elon Musk decided to rain coins down on us from his derigible. The fuck are we doing?
Stop telling me what I want.
drives me absolutely bonkers
The same people pushing AI, are also putting into power a govt hostile to the working class stripping the country of all it’s social safety nets.
I hate that AI is advertised as the tool for everything. Is shit and it’s stupid.
I also work in tech, on backend stuff. I love having the AI as an assistant to get faster documentation, or help me with the logs, or even fixing stuff or yaml generation. Personally I could never get back working before this AI era.
Just thinking how much time I save now, and how faster I do the things instead of waiting days for a response on stack overflow or searching through 20 posts and doing trial and error…
Like whoever doesn’t see that AI has some advantages is blind.
The problem is idiot managers who fire people thinking it can do solo work or replace people. It cannot, even as a chat customer support is really bad and personally I would stop buying from a store/company if there’s not a real person for support.
The AI slop of image generation, shitty videos and so on…is so bad and using resources for nothing.
But then you have medical use for it, sciene use and so many things where it can help… if you can’t see that it has some good uses, maybe you’re just ignorant.
we’ve lost the plot when you automate away work but people are poor and hungry.
Frank Herbert nailed it decades ago in Dune:
„Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them“
AI is taking jobs, destroying communities and resources, all for big companies to make more money quicker. We really the real life Wall-E
Even if AI worked as well as advertised, there’s this little annoying fact that we’ve made it necessary for not-rich people to work in order to not die.
The majority of rich people will never understand this until they are forced to.
Not once has any provider of AI or automation made the case for how it will help regular folks for everything to be automated. Its not making things cheaper for us, its not giving us better paying jobs. Until theres some case to be made about how things will get significantly better with AI and automation in the mix, why would we invite something thats going to make us more obsolete?
Employers should be banned from automating a job that is not more efficient that putting a human in that role.
Employees should be celebrated, educated, and encouraged for automating their workflows.
I believe we’re at the other side of the bell curve for what machines can do currently.
The author of the article really, really, missed the point of the anger and frustration about AI when they make the point „if you don’t like AI make it known with with your dollars and by pushing politicians to regulate“. The companies pushing AI are the same ones making our votes meaningless and removing economic choice from our marketplace.
I can not speak to a human at my pharmacy no matter what I say or press. Sometimes my question/ problem does not fit whatever canned answers they choose so now I have to drive to the pharmacy just to ask a question
Weirdly, people actually do enjoy applying their skills and expertise to things. AI is a bunch of snake oil sold under the promise of „efficiency.“ We do not need peak efficiency in all things.
We want to automate the shitty things so we can enjoy our lives, not automate our enjoyment so that we can be shittier longer.
Speaking as someone who’s worked almost two decades in automation, my problem with AI isn’t automation, it’s that I can’t see how it makes decisions and therefore can’t trust anything it does.
Wrong. People do want automation. What we don’t want is being automated out of income and livelihood.
thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind