Bereits 2008 stimmte die Mehrheit Kaliforniens gegen die gleichgeschlechtliche Ehe
Von NoHold7153
Bereits 2008 stimmte die Mehrheit Kaliforniens gegen die gleichgeschlechtliche Ehe
Von NoHold7153
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Interesting about Santa Barbara county.
We’ve come so far in 18 years. 🥰🏳️🌈
It was called Proposition 8. [Here’s a brief history on the topic if you’re interested](https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/lgbtq/prop8)
Just want to add that the LDS members during that time of voting were told by church authorities to go door to door to inform people to vote against same sex marriage. It’s one of the many reasons why I left and became an atheist.
This was Prop 8 which banned same-sex marriage in California’s constitution. In 2024 it was repealed by voters with Prop 3, which established a right to marry instead. We’ve come a long way.
It’s worth noting that this ballot initiative was intentionally very misleadingly framed
A ‚yes‘ vote was against legalizing same sex marriage, a ’no‘ vote was for legalizing same sex marriage
I’m not saying this is what swung the election, but it helps to color the moment in time, and helps explain why it happened.
This barely even lasted 2 years before being undone by the courts
Shine on you crazy mormons
It was widely posited at the time that Obama actually unintentionally helped sink gay marriage in California that year. Because he was on the presidential ticket the black voter turnout was unusually high, and black voters tend to be surprisingly socially conservative on many issues not related to race. They were less likely to support gay marriage in general than white liberals.
There was some insane misinformation being spread that actually made it sound like you were voting for the exact opposite. Prop 8 was written and spread to confuse people. Also paid almost entirely by out of state religious organizations. I remember them doing polls of people leaving and not realizing they literally voted the opposite of what they wanted. I really hate our voting system in this country
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The Mormons have a lot to answer for. They should have lost their religious tax exempt status over this. If we actually applied our laws evenly and justly, they would have.
It won’t be a full 180 until a majority of California is in a same-sex marriage.
Ugh. I know. There was heavy lobbying by churches to keep gay marriage illegal. I’m glad things have changed.
I think that both, heterosexual and gay marriages, should lose any public involvement or support in the near future. Only when a child is born, authorities should be involved, in order to determine responsible persons for each child and possible public support for all of them.
Edit: Any valuable comments, besides simple negatives?
Yeah it really wasn’t that long ago at all.
Malcolm gladwell in revenge of the tipping point has a long and really interesting history of the change that happened rapidly in there American political climate regarding same sex marriage.
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This is why Obama wouldn’t commit to supporting same sex marriage in 2008. It was the politically expedient, if not moral thing to do.
Make it illegal again
One of the most depressing vote outcomes. It crushed me. It still resonates to this day for me, I can never ever forgive those voters.
There was a statistic that showed suicides spiked badly after this vote. I survived an attempt the Friday after.
Bonus trivia:
>Their ***governor TWICE vetoed*** same-sex marriage after legislature voted for it!
Thanks ***Arnold***!
I stood outside a church that served as a polling station on election day with a sign opposing prop 8. I had a good shower cry that night but I knew in my heart that we would get it reversed, and we did.
Frocking Mormons spent a ton ($20 million from ~~church~~ cult members, urged by the ~~church~~ cult leadership) and thousands of volunteer hours to help make that temporary setback happen (reversed in 2013). I hate those hypocritical polygamous found pmagic lates in the woods cult bastards.
The demographic breakdown was what was most telling.
Ugh. I remember how disappointed I was when Prop H8 passed. It was a bit of a cloud over the Obama election.
With a significant contribution from Utah’s Mormon church.
This was thanks to the Mormon church, literally pouring millions and millions of dollars into anti-proposition 8 propaganda.
Good thing old people die
Black peepo voting for Obama.
LA County voted to ban gay marriage!
This solidified my disdain for religious institutions meddling in politics. I was so distraught as a 19 year old at the time even when Obama won.
The ACTUAL majority too, this wasn’t a gerrymandering thing.
It came up again in 2024 as [proposition 3](https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_3,_Right_to_Marry_and_Repeal_Proposition_8_Amendment_(2024)) which passed with well over 60% support.
~~I’ll have to go dig up some wayback machine links (I’ll edit this comment later), but if memory serves~~ This was one of 3 propositions on the 2024 ballot where the CA Democratic party and [CA GOP](https://web.archive.org/web/20241107061423/https://cagop.org/cagop-endorsements-2024/) didn’t directly disagree with each other – the GOP had a „no opinion“ position.
But even in 2024, if you break it down by propositions, the GOP got over half of their wishlist – California is a lot less solidly blue (by population at least) as it’s often presented. Which I find a little frightening.
So California has gotten dumber lol. Weren’t Obama and Biden also against it?
When Obama ran in 2008 he was on the fence about it. That’s how recent acceptance is for same sex marriage. Pretty wild considering how long we’ve had marriage and gay people!!
When he was elected mayor of San Francisco in 2004, Gavin Newsom issued same-sex marriage licenses against state law.
This is exactly why our Constitution is so important and MUST be protected and respected. Marriage is a matter of civil rights and not up to voters. If I can marry them any adult can marry who they love and want of the same is true of the other.