Palantir are extremely interested in the NHS patient database. It’s one of the only patient databases in the world that holds all information about citizens health (such as chronic conditions, causes of death, vaccinations, ER and GP visits etc).
It also goes back decades so there is a wealth of data to mine for insights. This is primarily what palantir wants, they want a huge healthcare database to mine for its AI training.
Personally I believe this should only be allowed to be conducted by a UK company, giving a foreign private company our citizens health data is a huge security risk.
Wgh555 on
It’s a good thing this is being called out rather than parliament rolling over unopposed.
JackStrawWitchita on
Remember that Starmer and Streeting are trying to EXPAND Palantir into many areas of the UK government. This happened after Starmer met with Palantir executives in the US, a meeting arranged by Mandelson….
Tastetherainbow_2016 on
FYI you can opt out of your data being shared in the NHS app. You can also contact companies and demand it is erased under your “right to removal”. God bless GDPR 👍
soulsteela on
No shit Sherlock, giving the fascist who has pledged to get rid of the poor all our data is a bad idea, well whip me strip me and call me Beryl ! Nobody could ever think that they would use this data for nefarious purposes , surely these lovely white supremacist oligarchs wouldn’t target people with mental illness or the disabled etc. after all no fascist in history ever acted in such a way!
apple_kicks on
Saw somewhere else what they offered was slow and some competitors did offer better alternatives
ArsErratia on
I mean yeah, handing Peter Thiel a list of every trans person in the UK is going to put them in danger.
That’s why Streeting did it.
Lifereflector221122 on
I have been fighting for my data with NHS Bristol. They deleted info and other medical had to do stuff. I want truth on negligence and never got it, it’s a cover up culture. Government needs to take control of this.
niteninja1 on
fundamentally even if people dont like palantir you have 3 options.
1) dont modernise/digitise the nhs
2) do it in house accepting you will have to pay market rates for digital staff (and raise the pay of existing digital staff to prevent a equal pay claim) and hire a load more.
3) pick a different company to contract it out to
SquashyDisco on
Mandelson is behind this and we’ll be fighting his ghosts for decades to come.
doublejay1999 on
Democracy For Sale is Reporting that Palantir is viewed as inferior :
Palantir’s £330 million NHS tech platform is “slow and clunky” with a “poor user experience,” according to an internal NHS document seen by Democracy for Sale.
Labour leadership hopeful Wes Streeting – who recently resigned as health secretary – has said that Palantir is “absolutely critical to the future of the NHS.”
But a briefing prepared for NHS England senior leaders in February said that Palantir’s NHS platform is eight to ten times slower at analysing data than the current NHS tool in use.
“Processing time is reported as taking 4-5 minutes compared to 30 seconds [in the current system]” the briefing states, even after making “optimisation” changes to speed it up.
A senior NHS source who uses Palantir’s Federated Data Platform (FDP) every day told us the runtime is much slower still, in their experience. “I’d be happy with four or five minutes,” they said, “but usually I’m waiting closer to ten”.
kawasutra on
I’d like an option to go back to paper records held by my GP.
Referral? Fax it across.
I am so done with all these cunty evil corps manipulating the world with their data intel.
Vargrr on
And yet, they will still hand the data over because money talks…
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Palantir are extremely interested in the NHS patient database. It’s one of the only patient databases in the world that holds all information about citizens health (such as chronic conditions, causes of death, vaccinations, ER and GP visits etc).
It also goes back decades so there is a wealth of data to mine for insights. This is primarily what palantir wants, they want a huge healthcare database to mine for its AI training.
Personally I believe this should only be allowed to be conducted by a UK company, giving a foreign private company our citizens health data is a huge security risk.
It’s a good thing this is being called out rather than parliament rolling over unopposed.
Remember that Starmer and Streeting are trying to EXPAND Palantir into many areas of the UK government. This happened after Starmer met with Palantir executives in the US, a meeting arranged by Mandelson….
FYI you can opt out of your data being shared in the NHS app. You can also contact companies and demand it is erased under your “right to removal”. God bless GDPR 👍
No shit Sherlock, giving the fascist who has pledged to get rid of the poor all our data is a bad idea, well whip me strip me and call me Beryl ! Nobody could ever think that they would use this data for nefarious purposes , surely these lovely white supremacist oligarchs wouldn’t target people with mental illness or the disabled etc. after all no fascist in history ever acted in such a way!
Saw somewhere else what they offered was slow and some competitors did offer better alternatives
I mean yeah, handing Peter Thiel a list of every trans person in the UK is going to put them in danger.
That’s why Streeting did it.
I have been fighting for my data with NHS Bristol. They deleted info and other medical had to do stuff. I want truth on negligence and never got it, it’s a cover up culture. Government needs to take control of this.
fundamentally even if people dont like palantir you have 3 options.
1) dont modernise/digitise the nhs
2) do it in house accepting you will have to pay market rates for digital staff (and raise the pay of existing digital staff to prevent a equal pay claim) and hire a load more.
3) pick a different company to contract it out to
Mandelson is behind this and we’ll be fighting his ghosts for decades to come.
Democracy For Sale is Reporting that Palantir is viewed as inferior :
Palantir’s £330 million NHS tech platform is “slow and clunky” with a “poor user experience,” according to an internal NHS document seen by Democracy for Sale.
Labour leadership hopeful Wes Streeting – who recently resigned as health secretary – has said that Palantir is “absolutely critical to the future of the NHS.”
But a briefing prepared for NHS England senior leaders in February said that Palantir’s NHS platform is eight to ten times slower at analysing data than the current NHS tool in use.
“Processing time is reported as taking 4-5 minutes compared to 30 seconds [in the current system]” the briefing states, even after making “optimisation” changes to speed it up.
A senior NHS source who uses Palantir’s Federated Data Platform (FDP) every day told us the runtime is much slower still, in their experience. “I’d be happy with four or five minutes,” they said, “but usually I’m waiting closer to ten”.
I’d like an option to go back to paper records held by my GP.
Referral? Fax it across.
I am so done with all these cunty evil corps manipulating the world with their data intel.
And yet, they will still hand the data over because money talks…