Anyone able to explain South Korea? Did Messi join a Boy Band there or something? That’s so fascinating.
Did Ronaldo hate on a KPop song or something? What did he do to piss everyone off?
(legit question as someone who is very very out of the loop)
El_McKell on
The average Korean rates Christiano Ronaldo 3.54 out of 7??? Surely that’s like how you’d rate an average pro-football player? What’s going on here?
samyall on
Four of the five top Ronaldo countries are Muslim majority. Is Ronaldo certified halal or something?
qchisq on
People are asking about South Korea, but what about Indonesia or Turkey?
commentman10 on
Why was their a why on Korea but not a why on Indonesia?
pibyte on
I used to be more pro Messi … but then I realized that both of them are douchebag rich guys avoiding taxes.
Trimax42 on
UK ranking Messi higher than Ronaldo and France ranking Ronaldo higher than Messi is certainly funny considering where they have played.
(France might just be sore because of the World Cup)
CommercialChart5088 on
Korean here – Ronaldo lost a lot of respect in Korea after 2019, in which Juventus made a special visit and played a friendly match with K-League (the Korean football league) players. Ronaldo was obviously the star of the show…. at least he was supposed to be.
In the match he refused to play a single second, which went against contracts, because he ‚didn’t feel like playing‘ or whatever. Ever since then Ronaldo became known as a narcissistic asshole in Korea. People don’t deny he’s one of the greatest players of all time, but it left a bitter taste in every Korean fan’s mouth.
Funnily enough in the 2022 World Cup, Ronaldo’s abysmally bad performance in the Portugal v. Korea match indirectly helped us get to the round of 16. Since then people have been sarcastically mocking him as ‚he’s an honorary Korean from now on‘ or ‚he finally returned the favor‘ and the sort.
minaminonoeru on
Since Ronaldo moved to Saudi Arabia, his popularity has surged in the Middle East and Muslim countries.
Of course, Messi’s popularity would have risen in the U.S. after he moved there, but in surveys like this, the U.S. is just one country among many.
mankytoes on
Were the people surveyed football fans? A lot of people find Ronaldo attractive, maybe they were voting on that.
On purely football, it’s Messi. Probably the most relevant ranking is Spain, as they both played both of their best years there.
EdwardBigby on
This is quite interesting. I might be looking too much into this but I think it says a lot about views on masculinity in many of these countries
Messi is small, cute and probably autistic
Ronaldo is tall, muscular, confident, extremely handsome and probably a rapist
Ornery_Proposal_3784 on
You may be a fan of CR or Messi or Balotelli or Kaka whoever. But those numbers won’t cancel the fact that Messi is by far far the greatest footballer ever, and maybe the greatest athelete too.
I ve lived in Indonesia Malaysia. Those people, males and females are very insecure about their looks, so when they see handsome/beautiful people, they accept them as superior to themselves. So even my male friends had unhealthy affection (kinda homosexual) towards CR and his looks.
Also, there was pic of CR with Palestine flag and Messi visiting Jerusalem. That also left a huge mark on fanbase.
Again, all this won’t change fact that Messi is bigger in football. It was never a debate! Never.
Manchild1189 on
Now rank the same countries according to women’s rights and sexual assault laws.
Zigxy on
I thought Mexico would be lowest tbh. Hard to distinguish rivalry versus genuine dislike between Argentinians/Mexicans.
Dunkjoe on
Interesting, there are more countries leaning towards Ronaldo (11) than Messi (8), but the top 2 countries leaning Messi is near the 11 leaning towards Ronaldo mathematically.
allinasecond on
Red Ones = Mental Illness
InfidelZombie on
I’m just surprised they found someone in the US who’s heard of either of them. I only know they’re soccer guys because I lived in Europe for a decade.
eaglebrain on
What about the world (or at least all the countries surveyed) overall? Does it leans Messi or Ronaldo?
fmessore on
I am not entirely sure. Is that Ronaldo guy a football player?
SlayerJB on
Now let’s do Ronaldo vs Ronaldo CR7
DanoPinyon on
Important use of time and resources, surely.
atchn01 on
As an American I am aware of the names and that they play soccer but otherwise have no idea who these guys are.
Cameltitties on
A lot of people are saying it was Ronaldo going to Saudi, but I’m Arab and people have loved Ronaldo since the Real Madrid days. I’m not really sure why, but they just have.
HAH-PAH on
Non-western cultures seem to value the aesthetics of Ronaldo’s archetypal domineering masculine physicality and ostentatious opulent luxury while Western cultures value Messi’s creative and intelligent play, relatively more humble persona and down-to-earth vibes.
Same reason why most driving loud and bright coloured Lamborghinis are non-Western people.
Old_Kaleidoscope_479 on
Im from India. Ronaldo is of course very popular here, but Messi clearly is ahead of him.
Threxx on
I’m surprised to see any country topping Portugal for Ronaldo preference. Saying the word “Messi” there, even jokingly, in any setting went over about as well as uttering the word “bomb” at an airport. I spent a couple weeks there and I saw more statues and tributes to Ronaldo in public areas than Jesus himself.
Bayesian11 on
I don’t trust the numbers. Messi is way better. It’s a fact.
woolierwig on
Would love to see this by age – Ronaldo is seemingly more popular amongst younger people who never really watched them battle it out in their prime, and see Ronaldo as more of a celebrity/internet personality. But I’ve never been able to prove it
nature_rebel on
why just Messi vs Ronaldo? what about Kevin Großkreuz
Purplekeyboard on
I find it highly unlikely that this is the United States‘ true preference. Typical answer from Americans would have been „What versus who?“
Apprehensive_Tip_839 on
What the hell is going on between South Korea and Ronaldo.
kerblamophobe on
Lol asking the Philippines about this, as if anyone beyond the rich bourgeoisie cares about these two lol
LordHtheXIII on
Rating 1 to 7 is so weird… 1 to 5 or 1 to 10 was going to be more understandable.
On Korea Messi score is 1.37 better than Ronaldo’s 3.54, so Messi was valued 4.91 over 7 there. Therefore:
Korea -> Messi’s value: 70.1% – Ronaldo’s value 50.6%
DEVILisLIE on
It is impressive the distribution in the countries. What might be the psychology behind these choices?
allstarazul on
There is only one Ronaldo, R9
Many_Tip_4802 on
new whiteness chart just dropped
Exotic_Reputation_59 on
The Indonesia story adds so much context. One kid in a Ronaldo shirt after a disaster shifted fandom for an entire country. Wild how that works.
Exotic_Reputation_59 on
The Indonesia tsunami story is wild. One kid in a Ronaldo shirt changed the fandom for an entire country. That’s not marketing, that’s just human connection.
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Anyone able to explain South Korea? Did Messi join a Boy Band there or something? That’s so fascinating.
Did Ronaldo hate on a KPop song or something? What did he do to piss everyone off?
(legit question as someone who is very very out of the loop)
The average Korean rates Christiano Ronaldo 3.54 out of 7??? Surely that’s like how you’d rate an average pro-football player? What’s going on here?
Four of the five top Ronaldo countries are Muslim majority. Is Ronaldo certified halal or something?
People are asking about South Korea, but what about Indonesia or Turkey?
Why was their a why on Korea but not a why on Indonesia?
I used to be more pro Messi … but then I realized that both of them are douchebag rich guys avoiding taxes.
UK ranking Messi higher than Ronaldo and France ranking Ronaldo higher than Messi is certainly funny considering where they have played.
(France might just be sore because of the World Cup)
Korean here – Ronaldo lost a lot of respect in Korea after 2019, in which Juventus made a special visit and played a friendly match with K-League (the Korean football league) players. Ronaldo was obviously the star of the show…. at least he was supposed to be.
In the match he refused to play a single second, which went against contracts, because he ‚didn’t feel like playing‘ or whatever. Ever since then Ronaldo became known as a narcissistic asshole in Korea. People don’t deny he’s one of the greatest players of all time, but it left a bitter taste in every Korean fan’s mouth.
Funnily enough in the 2022 World Cup, Ronaldo’s abysmally bad performance in the Portugal v. Korea match indirectly helped us get to the round of 16. Since then people have been sarcastically mocking him as ‚he’s an honorary Korean from now on‘ or ‚he finally returned the favor‘ and the sort.
Since Ronaldo moved to Saudi Arabia, his popularity has surged in the Middle East and Muslim countries.
Of course, Messi’s popularity would have risen in the U.S. after he moved there, but in surveys like this, the U.S. is just one country among many.
Were the people surveyed football fans? A lot of people find Ronaldo attractive, maybe they were voting on that.
On purely football, it’s Messi. Probably the most relevant ranking is Spain, as they both played both of their best years there.
This is quite interesting. I might be looking too much into this but I think it says a lot about views on masculinity in many of these countries
Messi is small, cute and probably autistic
Ronaldo is tall, muscular, confident, extremely handsome and probably a rapist
You may be a fan of CR or Messi or Balotelli or Kaka whoever. But those numbers won’t cancel the fact that Messi is by far far the greatest footballer ever, and maybe the greatest athelete too.
I ve lived in Indonesia Malaysia. Those people, males and females are very insecure about their looks, so when they see handsome/beautiful people, they accept them as superior to themselves. So even my male friends had unhealthy affection (kinda homosexual) towards CR and his looks.
Also, there was pic of CR with Palestine flag and Messi visiting Jerusalem. That also left a huge mark on fanbase.
Again, all this won’t change fact that Messi is bigger in football. It was never a debate! Never.
Now rank the same countries according to women’s rights and sexual assault laws.
I thought Mexico would be lowest tbh. Hard to distinguish rivalry versus genuine dislike between Argentinians/Mexicans.
Interesting, there are more countries leaning towards Ronaldo (11) than Messi (8), but the top 2 countries leaning Messi is near the 11 leaning towards Ronaldo mathematically.
Red Ones = Mental Illness
I’m just surprised they found someone in the US who’s heard of either of them. I only know they’re soccer guys because I lived in Europe for a decade.
What about the world (or at least all the countries surveyed) overall? Does it leans Messi or Ronaldo?
I am not entirely sure. Is that Ronaldo guy a football player?
Now let’s do Ronaldo vs Ronaldo CR7
Important use of time and resources, surely.
As an American I am aware of the names and that they play soccer but otherwise have no idea who these guys are.
A lot of people are saying it was Ronaldo going to Saudi, but I’m Arab and people have loved Ronaldo since the Real Madrid days. I’m not really sure why, but they just have.
Non-western cultures seem to value the aesthetics of Ronaldo’s archetypal domineering masculine physicality and ostentatious opulent luxury while Western cultures value Messi’s creative and intelligent play, relatively more humble persona and down-to-earth vibes.
Same reason why most driving loud and bright coloured Lamborghinis are non-Western people.
Im from India. Ronaldo is of course very popular here, but Messi clearly is ahead of him.
I’m surprised to see any country topping Portugal for Ronaldo preference. Saying the word “Messi” there, even jokingly, in any setting went over about as well as uttering the word “bomb” at an airport. I spent a couple weeks there and I saw more statues and tributes to Ronaldo in public areas than Jesus himself.
I don’t trust the numbers. Messi is way better. It’s a fact.
Would love to see this by age – Ronaldo is seemingly more popular amongst younger people who never really watched them battle it out in their prime, and see Ronaldo as more of a celebrity/internet personality. But I’ve never been able to prove it
why just Messi vs Ronaldo? what about Kevin Großkreuz
I find it highly unlikely that this is the United States‘ true preference. Typical answer from Americans would have been „What versus who?“
What the hell is going on between South Korea and Ronaldo.
Lol asking the Philippines about this, as if anyone beyond the rich bourgeoisie cares about these two lol
Rating 1 to 7 is so weird… 1 to 5 or 1 to 10 was going to be more understandable.
On Korea Messi score is 1.37 better than Ronaldo’s 3.54, so Messi was valued 4.91 over 7 there. Therefore:
Korea -> Messi’s value: 70.1% – Ronaldo’s value 50.6%
It is impressive the distribution in the countries. What might be the psychology behind these choices?
There is only one Ronaldo, R9
new whiteness chart just dropped
The Indonesia story adds so much context. One kid in a Ronaldo shirt after a disaster shifted fandom for an entire country. Wild how that works.
The Indonesia tsunami story is wild. One kid in a Ronaldo shirt changed the fandom for an entire country. That’s not marketing, that’s just human connection.
We hate them both equally.
Source: I’m Dutch.
Messi fucked us over last WC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCk1jGFzcpA
Ronaldo years before on the EC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpzCxRFvEc
Cohen’s whaaat
Choosing between a die hard Argentinian Nazi Messi and Ronaldo the rapist ….
No Bangladesh? Cmon do it over
Fuck Messi and Argentina, Ronaldo it is. I like Barcelona until messi played, since he left I like them again.
Ronaldo the rapist should not be presented as a legitimate option.