Die Polizei von Ontario verwendet Spyware, mit der sie Ihr Smartphone aus der Ferne übernehmen kann. Sie kämpfen darum, fast alles darüber geheim zu halten
https://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/ontario-police-are-using-spyware-that-lets-them-remotely-take-over-your-smartphone-theyre-fighting-to-keep-almost-everything-about-it-secret/article_56ef6906-4008-48ec-8b4c-d56e57a00ea5.html
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lol I wonder what awful law allows them to do this.
transparency for thee, FOI restrictions for me
Keep your phone’s OS up-to-date.
Long article but two points
1) it was used under court order
2) crown/police doesn’t want any info on the vendor, tool, etc to get out to the point they’ll drop major cases should they have to release that info
Is that why my phone randomly heats up?
Ontario Today: They can see everything on your phone, but you can not see what is on Doug Ford’s phone (https://globalnews.ca/news/11813935/ontario-passes-freedom-of-information-changes/).
> The secrecy around the tool is so extreme that the Crown may abandon the prosecution rather than reveal the vendor’s identity and details of the ODITs capabilities and limitations, according to a court document filed in Windsor Superior Court.
Ah yes – more and move evidence that not only do they seemingly want to release dangerous offenders but it’s better that we all become victims of crime before they release how much they’ve been spying on us.
**This is why they want the metadata without a warrant**.
They can use it to make a weak connection to basically any ongoing crime that they are literally allowing to happen in order to get a general warrant — not even a search warrant according to the article to spy on people.
And we will see pools of people on here vehemently defending this.
What a disgusting act.
OMG MY RIGHTS. MY PRIVACY! Why do they get to view my cat pictures without my permission?!?
Nothing wrong with this as it’s being done with a court order. No different than phone wiretaps which they have done forever (since phones were a thing).
It’s when the government wants to do this without a court order that you should be getting worked up over.
If anyone is interested, citizen Lab and Amnesty international made a mobile verification toolkit to scan for this type of spyware. Yes it can be downloaded for both Apple iOS and Android: [MVT](https://docs.mvt.re/en/latest/)
> Schofield and Brar are challenging the constitutionality of the ODIT warrant, saying police did not release volumes of related information to the authorizing judge, nor did they tell him such documentation even existed. They also didn’t tell the judge about the agreement between the police and the Crown to end the prosecution in the event the court orders them to disclose the identity of the ODIT vendor.
Anddd there it is..
Pegasus, the answer is Pegasus
Lots of checks and balances are disappearing, and the entire legal profession just stands by except for one or two
The police have already been using stingray surveillance tech for years all without oversight, so Im not surprised this is the natural progression
Well the cat is outta the bag now!
If this software exists and works the Germans will need to reconsider their nato level approval of iPhones for classified (restricted) data.
Any agency that knows this software works should immediately report it to Apple and Google to patch around, and to nato ccdcoe and cse as part of our efforts to eliminate these sorts of security vulnerabilities.
again the cops saying that they have to be worse criminals than the cops for me to be safe.
Oh and we need to take all your privacy rights away too.
Just wondering if I will have to serve them free coffee when they have there members sitting in my living room.
Police spy on us? Terrible. Federal Gov’t spies on us? Amazing.
Make it make sense.
This is why I run GrapheneOS, and absolutely everything is sandboxed. The onky time i was ever excited to buy a pixel.
They can’t just monitor anyone they still need a warrant signed by a judge. Any warrant granted by a judge can also be appealed to a higher court to exclude evidence obtained by that warrant illegally.
I’m not a smart man, or a criminal, but using your personal phone and computer while committing crimes isn’t a great idea.
Using a burner phone seems like a no-brainer. Not using computers connected to you to do crimes seems even more basic – I guess the criminals they catch are just dumb?
I guess I’m just trying to reason that sure they can get a warrant to hack your phone and computer, but it’s kind of useless if the criminals exercised even a basic level of caution around using electronics
Is there a simple explanation as to how this software gets onto the persons phone? They need to install an app or something like that, or there’s no interaction with the victim required? The article doesn’t mention that part.
> The accused still gets full access to the evidence gathered — just not the technical play‑by‑play of how police obtained it, the Crown argues.
How can we ever be sure it was lawfully obtained then? Fuck this. You tell us all exactly how you got every piece of evidence you’re trying to lock someone up with, or it should be thrown out. Someone getting locked up on a „trust us“ is not justice.
I mean a warrant is still needed, and its barely used so it seems fine to me. Maybe just don’t steal cars or traffic opium.