Die Demokraten haben gerade ihre Waffen niedergelegt. Wieder. – Abigail Spanbergers Reaktion auf die Gerichtsentscheidung, die den Willen der Wähler zur Neuverteilung der Wahlbezirke zunichte machte, ist ein besorgniserregendes Zeichen der Kapitulation.
https://newrepublic.com/post/210536/virginia-redistricting-fight-spanberger-court
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Let’s just forget why you were elected and do whatever the f you want, huh?
This country is going to fall to authoritarianism while these people continue to indulge their obsession with process.
So like….what were you guys EXPECTING her to do? Honestly asking.
Wasn’t everyone talking about how she was the new face of the resistance like a month ago? The former intelligence officer?
Ok.
She and the VA Dems need to go nuclear on the Virginia court.
Difference is I would bet if they pulled an Ohio and used the map anyway Trunp would just activate the national guard and stop voting. You dont need to worry about that in red states.
Middle of the road Dems will always fold to the right wing
A captured SCOTUS said get bent. wtf is this kind of trash coverage?
What exactly did you guys want them to do? I get the frustration with the dems folding time and time again but this isn’t one of those times. Hands are tied this time. They’ve actually gone back and forth with maga on the redistricting since Texas did it
Idk how to do the indentation, but to those (like I was) wondering what she could do to respond per the article:
> „The idea Yeargain poses would be to lower the official retirement age to 54 by placing a modification in the annual budget bill that’s due by June 30, pass the legislation, and replace the hack justices—all of whom are older than 54—with seven new ones picked by Spanberger.“
Seems to me that if you are going to change the retirement age of judges so you can throw out the current batch and install specific ones that will rule in your favour on a fast tracked rehearing, you might as well just ignore the judges and do whatever you want regardless
Supreme Court justices ARE political actors, whether they like it/admit it or not.
Overruling a free and fair election, the will of the people, on a 4-3 split decision due to a technicality, should absolutely result in political consequences.
At the time of this posting, there are about 100 commenters in here who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about, but they are very angry about it.
Well if they had a plan, it’s probably best not to tell your opponents until the last possible minute. Telling them now just give them time to stop you.
Another day, another article bashing democrats on r/politics. Never change
Sorry but this glut of articles excoriating Dems for declining to reset the retirement age and replace existing justices is clickbait.
They all fail to mention that the VA Department of Elections‘ had a strict May 12 deadline for finalizing congressional maps in time for early voting in June.
So there was no logistical way to pass the law to lower the retirement age, boot the old judges, all the new judges, redraw the maps, and send them back to court.
Had the Supreme Court delivered this opinion in January instead of May 8, then these criticisms might be more valid.
But as it stands, they are just shitting on Dems for something that was never even feasible in the first place.
Fucking just redraw the maps and dare the court to stop them.
Gonna point this out again.
Almost advancement of civil rights in this country was done by breaking the rules outside of the Civil War.
Where would we be if MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, and Huey P Newton etc. Just said „Aw shucks guys. They said we couldn’t protest here. Guess we gotta go home and obey the Jim Crow Laws.“
They were beaten. Bitten. Arrested. Killed.
All the enslaved people who were helped with the Underground Railroad. Harriet Tubman, John Brown, Fredrick Douglas, Sojourner Truth.
These rights were fought for. They weren’t given to us because we obeyed. Because we voted. It was because they had no.other.choice.
Us just falling in line is not what’s going to make change. The country was not created for equality for all. It was not in the Constitution and had to be placed in via the 14th Amendment. The same Amendment they finally admitted they’re coming for next. And we’re wringing our hands about ignoring a racist immoral court ruling so Black and brown people’s votes are disenfranchised?
OK, I’m not happy with thr DNC, but this one feels like it’s just slinging mud.
The democrats tried, they then had a deadline.
The Republicans are willing to bend and break the law to get their way, if the democrats try and do the same they’ll lose because SCOTUS doesn’t even need to get creative.
This is just demanding someone commit seppuku because they got gunshot, by demanding democrats create a case they’ll lose.
This is pretty disingenuous. Spanberger hasn’t done anything but say she doesn’t support “getting rid of the Supreme Court for redistricting,” the legislature is more than capable of doing it anyway. And the piece even says there are logistical problems because the early voting maps needed to be finalized for early voting four days before the piece was even published.
What happens if they just don’t listen?
This is such a stupid take. What are the Dems supposed to do at this point? They took it all the way to the state and us supreme courts and lost and were turned away respectively.
This isn’t a Democrat problem and the attempt to frame it as such is just ridiculous.
No it’s not… at some point we have to just let the midterms play out
Even without these changes VA went left in a big way this past year
Must keep an eye on the road and the long game
What can you do? A SC decision is final. Are you suggesting not following orders from the SC? Either you respect the law or you do not. And even if you do not, is there anything you can actually do aside from a constitution amendment?
I genuinely take pleasure in watching the American version of Kier Starmer’s political faction (I dunno if he’s Labor or some other hard left anti-european socialism party, and frankly I can’t be fucked to care) die.
We’re not stupid, we see Britain’s current state of affairs, and want nothing to do with it.
What would you have them do?
Most Dems are corporatists who want the same crap Republicans want, this doesn’t surprise me at all.
Respect the decision and implement it after the 2026 elections
Actually, surrendering is when you do not vote and sit it out because you don’t like the candidate etc etc. And Americans have done plenty of that. Depending on some elected official to do all the fighting gets you no where if you do not vote.
People need to simply vote in mass to get the Republicans out of office in order to reverse much of what they’ve done. And, create new laws to make sure they cant do it again.
It’s not surrender. It’s compliance. Always has been
>Spanberger isn’t going for it. In fairness, as Greg Sargent reported this week, Virginia Democrats like Senate Majority Leader Scott Surovell have cited some logistical impediments to the plan, namely a May 12 deadline to finalize the maps in time for early voting.
So they complain about a decision that hasn’t been made that would also be very difficult to get done in time?
Probably an unpopular opinion but I see a stark difference between gerrymandering in kind and flat out removing the Supreme Court as a meaningful check. The equilibrium produced by the former is one that although not good, remains balanced and encourages national legislation. The equilibrium produced by the former hastens the downfall of the constitutional system. That’s a lot to sacrifice for like two seats given that we can already gerrymander for 2028 and the 2026 House is basically locked in.
I’ve always felt that a majority of the democrats low key support trump burning the gov down to the ground, as long as it makes their donors obscenely rich.