Alkohol am Steuer: Wenn die Wahrscheinlichkeit, erwischt zu werden, bei 1 zu 77 liegt, wo ist dann die Abschreckung?
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Von DaCor_ie
Alkohol am Steuer: Wenn die Wahrscheinlichkeit, erwischt zu werden, bei 1 zu 77 liegt, wo ist dann die Abschreckung?
https://jrnl.ie/7040953
Von DaCor_ie
33 Kommentare
Lads it’s actually crazy how many people around my hometown still drink and drive. Not a worry in the world. Once you’re outside any major town, the chances of getting caught are non existent
Probably dying or worse, killing someone else
I thought this was a very good article, Are men more likely to drink and drive or just more likely to get caught? *85% of those arrested are male. Half are under 35*
It’s a shocking read: *Between 2020 and 2023, 37.74% of drink-driving cases that went to court were dismissed entirely. More than one in three. Dismissed*
*Ireland has fewer than 9,000 people accessing alcohol treatment each year despite an estimated 500,000 living with Alcohol Use Disorder.*
The deterrent should be that you are a rational human being and know that alcohol will affect your driving ability. If you only don’t drink and drive for fear of being caught then you may need to re-evaluate you life priorities.
Should start fitting breathalysers in cars, I’ve seen busses and coaches with them. Either that or make the consequences so severe that you can’t afford to go out and get pissed before driving
When random breath testing first came in I was stopped almost every night driving home from the pub.
They really made a point to stop anyone they saw driving late at night.
I was driving home from working in the pub so most of the gardes knew me, a few times they sped off to pull over someone who drove past while they were testing me.
Other than road tax and green diesel it was the only thing I ever saw them actively enforce. When did they stop?
This logic applies to all crime..
Deterrence is if you do it frequently you’re more likely to be caught.. so better not to for you & society.
Do you want somehow for this to be 100%?
Maybe drink driving should be part of the driving test. If there gonna do it atleast make sure there good at it.
The deterrent is having an accident because you’re intoxicated.
I don’t drink and drive. I live down a country road from the pubs, and have never seen the guards, so I think chances of me being caught is much lower than 1 in 77.
For me the deterrent is the possibility of killing myself of someone else.
I guess the risk of killing somebody, or yourself, I mean that is the deterrent anyway for any reasonable person.
If your only deterrent of risk of getting caught then you have a problem!
The deterrent should really just be that it’s very fucking dangerous and you might kill someone else or yourself.
Not that you might get caught and end up with points or no license.
Killing other humans, often inexperienced children should be deterrence enough. Jailtime is the less severe pain such a case.
Not being responsible for killing someone or myself. I stress enough when driving sober. Can’t imagine doing it drunk.
There was parts of some cities where you could guarantee there would be checkpoints every Friday night and Saturday/sunday morning when they introduced this first.
Well, when you are caught that 77th time, you’ll get a driving ban, and then you’ll have a one in god knows how much chance of being caught driving while banned and getting a suspended sentence, and then you’ll have a one in god knows how much chance of getting caught driving while banned and under a suspended sentence and end up with a double secret suspended sentence, and then you’ll have a one in god knows how much chance of getting caught driving while banned and under a suspended sentence and under a double secret suspended sentence and then you’ll get a frown from the judge along with your next suspended sentence. So is it really worth the risk, I ask you?
I’m driving 30 years in Ireland. I’ve never been stopped once.
1 in 77 is still pretty high risk given the consequences and the fact that most people in Ireland need a car for work and getting around. It’s deterrent enough to people I’ve spoken to anyway
I’ve been breathalyzed twice in 30 years of owning my own car. If I was to go for a couple of pints after work and drive, unless I had an accident there is a near zero chance I’d be caught. I like to think I’m a good human so I don’t drink drive but been caught isn’t on my mind.
The deterrent for me is knocking someone over, or crashing and it being my fault….
We live in a consequence free society (for criminals)
Why can’t something be done about transport instead. Do something about cab drivers charging an absolute fortune. 8-9 euro before the cab has even driven sometimes. They are a shower of cowboys who think they are saints. The lack of late busses is also a problem. So it’s either get ripped off by a cab driver or stay at home. Why can’t there be a third option that isn’t drink driving
My chance of being caught are zero.
Majority of replies saying the deterrent should be the potential consequence and how people should be rational and have personal responsibility.
Problem is, rationale and personal responsibility is rare in people, rarer still in drunk people.
Thats why policing is needed and the fact ‚on the ground‘ policing is reducing is a clear reason the stats are going in the wrong direction. If the changes are relatively high.
That’s pretty high for any crime I’d have thought.
There’s another part of this that doesn’t really get recognised. If a Garda sets up a checkpoint and gets a drink driver, that patrol car is off the road for a good few hours while they bring the driver to be processed and tested and charged. This is the same with a lot of relatively minor crimes like public order or theft but it’s particularly burdensome in drink driving cases because they might have to wait for a doctor on call to attend to take a sample.
There’s a lot to be said for rethinking the whole custody system to free up more Gardaí.
I agree with other commenters who have said that people should know themselves not to drink and drive , for the sake of keeping others on the road/themselves safe. If that is not enough reason which it should be, I would argue that drivers should have enough cop on to know that if they drink and drive and happen to get into a tip, even minor, that the guards have to attend, if they get breathalysed they won’t be insured and will be put off the road. Common sense.
Idk the possibility of being a murderer should be deterrent enough imo
……er, that you could injure or kill someone?
The deterrent is that it will mess up your life badly if you get caught. Ask me how I know!
I think a good reason for this is lack of actual gardai. Since 2021 the number of people in Ireland has increased 500,000 and the number of gardai has actually gone down. That’s mad.
I dunno about most of you but the fact that I could kill someone or myself is enough of a deterrent to get a taxi.
1 in 77? Where? In 20 years driving I have never been stopped once for a test