Virtual private network service NordVPN warned on Friday it could pull out of Canada over the federal government’s proposed lawful access bill.
NordVPN said in a social media post it is reviewing the bill and would consider leaving Canada if the bill requires it to compromise its privacy protections.
The company said if Bill C-22 passes “and if we are subjected to mandatory obligations, there isn’t a scenario in which we would compromise our no-logs architecture or encryption protections.”
“To prevent this, we will consider all viable options, including limiting or, if necessary, removing our presence from Canadian jurisdiction,” NordVPN said in a post on X.
Earlier this week, The Globe and Mail reported that the encrypted messaging service Signal said it would leave Canada if the bill requires it to compromise user privacy.
Tuckebarry on
Another one. Apple and META also said they won’t support it at all.
Sensitive-Local-3485 on
NordVPN, the one that sells all your data you use it to protect?
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semibilingual on
so, in what way this bill is worst in term of privacy infringment than is the US patriot ACT and/or the CLOUD Act? Did any of these company left the US?
Strict_Common6871 on
This bill is essentially a „TSA key“ to your phone. Your suitcase can be opened with a key which is supposedly only available to TSA employees, but anyone can easily buy it for a few bucks. Now your phone will have a backdoor which is supposedly only available to the government, guess how long it is going to take before anyone would be able to buy it on darkweb
88bchinn on
Will I get a refund on my Nord account? Will it be like the gun buyback?
HankHippoppopalous on
Backdoors, even under the guise of security are easily exploited.
Literally this week, Windows Bitlocker’s backdoor was exposed and released. The team who released the access to this back door said it was clearly left open for law enforcement, as the hole was a by-design feature, not a bug.
So yea. As soon as they comply with C22, the door becomes wide open for anyone. This isn’t a slippery slope thing, its an ongoing issue. TSA Keys, Bitlocker codes, etc – All have been hacked by using the governmental backdoor.
TerminalOrbit on
This Bill is a false-flag domestic surveillance initiative!
psychoCMYK on
There will be an official house of commons petition against C-22 shortly if anyone is interested in signing it, please keep an eye out in the near future
asmallteapot on
If the intent of the bill isn’t to create a backdoor, but this many tech companies from this many jurisdictions say it would have that effect, maybe the government should revise the bill to be clearer on that point?
pichunb on
Fuck this bill, go and actually action upon other bills first, like foreign interference and stuff.
Wolfman-101 on
I was downvoted and mocked just a few months ago here for pointing out with a liberal majority they will go straight to violating our freedoms and privacy with more internet privacy and censorship bills.
The first thing liberals do with a majority government is shut off the cameras in 4 different committees and seal the records for 30 years. Now here we are, the censorship starts.
mind_mine on
Yah no thanks
MZM204 on
This is what the Liberals want. No VPNs, mass warrantless surveillance, digital ID. They will mine your data and use it.
Certain_Revenue9278 on
I thought only Chinese government will do this not Canada. I remember all the media saying that was true.
GhostOfLegend on
This Government and its decisions are very questionable.
They are just asking to be exposed under this dumbass bill.
Lifeisshort555 on
Seems like a bad idea given no organization is going to want to leave backdoor open on there network.
system_error_02 on
Yeah no shit, it completely compromises the entire purpose of their VPN products. Im sure I’ll lose my Proton email address too. So stupid. A stupid bill proposed by stupid people who dont understand technology.
BigBangBoomerang on
Canada is literally speed running the UK’s Online Safety Act.
sfg-1 on
Why are the liberals just so obsessed with restricting privacy and freedoms. Fuck off
Abyssus88 on
Whelp time to look for VPNS from outside Canada……………
Glittering_Novel_783 on
So, all this bill is really doing is disincentivizing multiple companies from doing business in Canada. Basically, another line of red tape that most companies aren’t willing to deal with. That will leave Canadians once again, with less options
EmbarrassedHelp on
Multiple groups have made easy to use tools for sending your MP and (other members of government) an email about rejecting this terrible legislation in its current form:
I’d also recommend emailing Minister of Public Safety of Canada (Gary Anandasangaree: gary.anand@parl.gc.ca), and the Minister of Justice (Sean Fraser: sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca).
Code__9 on
The people who proposed this bill clearly has no idea how technology works.
SasquatchBlumpkins on
I would like to know if there is any Canadian who is not a politician on the left or right who actually supports this bill.
This is absolutely mind-boggling that our government thinks this is a good idea. If you want to sink your party then you do shlit like this, remove any idea of privacy and throw it into a bill so you can target people willy-nilly.
I’m not even going to be around the bush that’s absolutely flucking reeks of communist country control. I’m not saying that the government is communist but they sure seem to like adopting these massive overreaches into Canadians Rights and freedoms.
I can only imagine how this will be used for the next election. They will start targeting and listening in on opponents political discussions, messages and everything else. It would be the equivalent of a cheat sheet being used during an exam and the teacher in charge is blind.
Regardless of everything else that’s happened this is one of the absolutely most dangerous bills I’ve ever seen being looked at in Canada. And I do not know any Canadian who supports it.
DENelson83 on
I know Canadian media companies do not want personal VPNs in Canada, because those could be used for evading geo-blocking, something Bell, Corus and Rogers bitterly detest.
MarkDavid04 on
[Canadian VPN provider Windscribe said Thursday it also would leave the country if the bill passes.
“We pay an ungodly amount of taxes to this corrupt government, and in return they want to destroy the entire essence of our service to basically spy on its own citizens. Not happening. We’ll move HQ and take our taxes elsewhere.”]
StevoJ89 on
Well I’d talk to my MP to complain about it but Carney bought them… sorry they walked the floor and gave the tyrannical socialists the majority.
Oh yeah and everyone all like „Good thing Carney won he soooo smart!!!“ yeah great, a highly capable dangerous person thanks a lot.
….this country man just… smh.
BG-Inf on
Yea but could you imagine how bad this bill would be if the Conservatives were in charge? /s
ArcaneGlyph on
Guess I buy a vpn so I can buy the good vpn 🙄. Gg gov.
AS2445 on
Canada doesn’t even have the market to even pass this bill NORD and signal said they will leave and much more international companies. That bill is stupid and dangerous.
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Virtual private network service NordVPN warned on Friday it could pull out of Canada over the federal government’s proposed lawful access bill.
NordVPN said in a social media post it is reviewing the bill and would consider leaving Canada if the bill requires it to compromise its privacy protections.
The company said if Bill C-22 passes “and if we are subjected to mandatory obligations, there isn’t a scenario in which we would compromise our no-logs architecture or encryption protections.”
“To prevent this, we will consider all viable options, including limiting or, if necessary, removing our presence from Canadian jurisdiction,” NordVPN said in a post on X.
Earlier this week, The Globe and Mail reported that the encrypted messaging service Signal said it would leave Canada if the bill requires it to compromise user privacy.
Another one. Apple and META also said they won’t support it at all.
NordVPN, the one that sells all your data you use it to protect?
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so, in what way this bill is worst in term of privacy infringment than is the US patriot ACT and/or the CLOUD Act? Did any of these company left the US?
This bill is essentially a „TSA key“ to your phone. Your suitcase can be opened with a key which is supposedly only available to TSA employees, but anyone can easily buy it for a few bucks. Now your phone will have a backdoor which is supposedly only available to the government, guess how long it is going to take before anyone would be able to buy it on darkweb
Will I get a refund on my Nord account? Will it be like the gun buyback?
Backdoors, even under the guise of security are easily exploited.
Literally this week, Windows Bitlocker’s backdoor was exposed and released. The team who released the access to this back door said it was clearly left open for law enforcement, as the hole was a by-design feature, not a bug.
So yea. As soon as they comply with C22, the door becomes wide open for anyone. This isn’t a slippery slope thing, its an ongoing issue. TSA Keys, Bitlocker codes, etc – All have been hacked by using the governmental backdoor.
This Bill is a false-flag domestic surveillance initiative!
There will be an official house of commons petition against C-22 shortly if anyone is interested in signing it, please keep an eye out in the near future
If the intent of the bill isn’t to create a backdoor, but this many tech companies from this many jurisdictions say it would have that effect, maybe the government should revise the bill to be clearer on that point?
Fuck this bill, go and actually action upon other bills first, like foreign interference and stuff.
I was downvoted and mocked just a few months ago here for pointing out with a liberal majority they will go straight to violating our freedoms and privacy with more internet privacy and censorship bills.
The first thing liberals do with a majority government is shut off the cameras in 4 different committees and seal the records for 30 years. Now here we are, the censorship starts.
Yah no thanks
This is what the Liberals want. No VPNs, mass warrantless surveillance, digital ID. They will mine your data and use it.
I thought only Chinese government will do this not Canada. I remember all the media saying that was true.
This Government and its decisions are very questionable.
They are just asking to be exposed under this dumbass bill.
Seems like a bad idea given no organization is going to want to leave backdoor open on there network.
Yeah no shit, it completely compromises the entire purpose of their VPN products. Im sure I’ll lose my Proton email address too. So stupid. A stupid bill proposed by stupid people who dont understand technology.
Canada is literally speed running the UK’s Online Safety Act.
Why are the liberals just so obsessed with restricting privacy and freedoms. Fuck off
Whelp time to look for VPNS from outside Canada……………
So, all this bill is really doing is disincentivizing multiple companies from doing business in Canada. Basically, another line of red tape that most companies aren’t willing to deal with. That will leave Canadians once again, with less options
Multiple groups have made easy to use tools for sending your MP and (other members of government) an email about rejecting this terrible legislation in its current form:
* The Internet Society’s tool: https://www.internetsociety.org/our-work/internet-policy/keep-canada-protected/
* OpenMedia’s messaging tool: https://action.openmedia.org/page/188754/action/1
* ICLM’s messaging tool: https://iclmg.ca/stop-c-22/
I’d also recommend emailing Minister of Public Safety of Canada (Gary Anandasangaree: gary.anand@parl.gc.ca), and the Minister of Justice (Sean Fraser: sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca).
The people who proposed this bill clearly has no idea how technology works.
I would like to know if there is any Canadian who is not a politician on the left or right who actually supports this bill.
This is absolutely mind-boggling that our government thinks this is a good idea. If you want to sink your party then you do shlit like this, remove any idea of privacy and throw it into a bill so you can target people willy-nilly.
I’m not even going to be around the bush that’s absolutely flucking reeks of communist country control. I’m not saying that the government is communist but they sure seem to like adopting these massive overreaches into Canadians Rights and freedoms.
I can only imagine how this will be used for the next election. They will start targeting and listening in on opponents political discussions, messages and everything else. It would be the equivalent of a cheat sheet being used during an exam and the teacher in charge is blind.
Regardless of everything else that’s happened this is one of the absolutely most dangerous bills I’ve ever seen being looked at in Canada. And I do not know any Canadian who supports it.
I know Canadian media companies do not want personal VPNs in Canada, because those could be used for evading geo-blocking, something Bell, Corus and Rogers bitterly detest.
[Canadian VPN provider Windscribe said Thursday it also would leave the country if the bill passes.
“We pay an ungodly amount of taxes to this corrupt government, and in return they want to destroy the entire essence of our service to basically spy on its own citizens. Not happening. We’ll move HQ and take our taxes elsewhere.”]
Well I’d talk to my MP to complain about it but Carney bought them… sorry they walked the floor and gave the tyrannical socialists the majority.
Oh yeah and everyone all like „Good thing Carney won he soooo smart!!!“ yeah great, a highly capable dangerous person thanks a lot.
….this country man just… smh.
Yea but could you imagine how bad this bill would be if the Conservatives were in charge? /s
Guess I buy a vpn so I can buy the good vpn 🙄. Gg gov.
Canada doesn’t even have the market to even pass this bill NORD and signal said they will leave and much more international companies. That bill is stupid and dangerous.