Fast 50.000 Einwohner von Lake Tahoe haben ein Jahr Zeit, um neuen Strom zu finden, da ihr Energieversorger auf Rechenzentren umstellt
https://www.techspot.com/news/112403-nearly-50000-lake-tahoe-residents-have-one-year.html
Fast 50.000 Einwohner von Lake Tahoe haben ein Jahr Zeit, um neuen Strom zu finden, da ihr Energieversorger auf Rechenzentren umstellt
https://www.techspot.com/news/112403-nearly-50000-lake-tahoe-residents-have-one-year.html
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Yay, Capitalism!
Since city officials are are so keen on green lighting these data centers why don’t they make data centers foot the bill for solar farms that can offset the costs of energy
Stuff like this makes me realise that the value of your house is incredibly dependent on public utilities that you have no control over.
If they suddenly stopped providing clean water and electricity to my house, it would become almost worthless overnight.
„While NV Energy claims the transition has been planned and delayed twice since 2009 – long before the current AI boom“
This is clickbait meant to make you angry. The move has been planned for more than ten years, well before datacenter power usage was an issue. NV Energy has made it clear that they’re ending their wholesale agreement and for some reason, Liberty and Cali/Nevada have made no effort to fill the gap.
> The affected residents, living near the California-Nevada border, are in a unique predicament: served by California-based Liberty Utilities, which receives 75% of its power from NV Energy across the border. … NV Energy claims the transition has been planned and delayed twice since 2009 – long before the current AI boom
It seems like this was a known thing and everyone just thought it would never actually happen.
This has been planned for years. Liberty energy gets power from Nevada Energy. It was supposed to be a short term deal while Nevada Energy built a new grid. The new grid allows for multiple energy providers to supply energy. Nevada Energy has always said it will stop providing to Liberty as soon as more providers were available. The short term deal has been extended many times because the new grid was not available.
Nevada energy is finally completing the grid. Their contract with Liberty is expiring. Liberty is free to make deals with other providers. It just hasn’t happened yet because the grid isn’t live yet, but should be by the time the contract expires later this year.
This is not an emergency. This has been known for years. It is still true that the new deal will be crap and rates will skyrocket. It’s still true that energy regulations suck. But this is not the crisis click baity articles want you to think it is.
The article is essentially lying. There are changes in infrastructure. There will be virtually no disruption in service. This is just pure fear propaganda for clicks.
For all the top comments talking about safeguards and legality, that should have been your smell test.
So the title is a little misleading.
The actual issue isn’t that a regulated utility is choosing to cut their residents off.
California is a net importer of energy. MV Energy has been selling excess capacity to California for a long time.
All that they are saying is that they can no longer export energy to the California utility anymore. Which, based on the article, has been in the works for many years.
Every year there’s a new reason why utilities need to be fully publicly owned or more strictly controlled.
Texas winters, forest fires, and now AI is giving us dozens of examples all at once.
Liberty Utilities for decades has purchased power from NV Energy via short term to medium term contracts. Over the years it could have connected into the CAISO, built its own generation or could have signed up for longer term contracts with NV, but it chose not to do so, especially in the post-covid years of rising energy prices.
Now, the contract is expiring and NV has load that it needs to serve (no proof whether it is data centers or just native load growth, but probably both) and won’t renew at a rate that Liberty likes. So, NV is going to sell that capacity and energy to customers who are willing to pay market.
Liberty is 100% at fault.
I can only hope these residents establish their own renewable energy grid, and when the ai bubble inevitably bursts and the data center becomes a big useless piece of shit they tell the energy companies who prioritized fucking image generation over providing the service for actual people to actually live to go fuck themselves. Fuck ai
Seems like this was planned forever, just conveniently timed to make people mad at “AI” now. Still sucks though, rates always go up first.
Very misleading headline. Not sure if anyone actually read the article… but the transition has been planned since 2009 and actually has nothing to do with any data center.
Tahoe sits directly on the border of California and Nevada, splitting the town in half between the states. The Nevada utility company has been providing power to California residents across the border in Tahoe. It finally announced it will move forward with the transition that has been planned for 17 years now.
The residents won’t “need to find new power”… it’ll be provided by California Liberty Utilities per the planned transition.
Again, this has been a planned transition between the power utility companies since 2009.
Is their provider changing sources when the current contract is scheduled to run out?
People will start setting these things on fire
Choosing data centers over 50,000 residents is telling you exactly where priorities are heading. When the power grid becomes a marketplace, residential customers will always lose to whoever pays more per megawatt.
The AI datacenter push is already putting these companies into situations where they will NEVER make their money back for investors. And now we’re pushing even harder, knowing that a crash/collapse is coming.
College economics should be a requirement. These people are insane.
I can’t believe this is even on the table, lifes been feeling like a Simpsons episode lately
There’s bairly enough power grid to power our current needs, let alone the push to electric vehicles & data centers.
Solution is a lot more energy production. Not just solar & wind, but also nuclear.
Or don’t & become a 3rd world country as more progressive countries developed & leave us behind. The later being the most likely outcome.
Never should have privatized public utilities
Why are citizens being denied power over these pieces of shit?
That cannot possibly be legal. These are regulated monopolies.
Anyone notice how these datacenter projects are starting to look like the mortgage packaging they did prior to 2008? Hey lets just build massive datacenters and fill them with AI compute. There is no way this could have an economic downturn!
They keep selling it as free money for counties and cities. But never mind the power, water, air pollution, noise pollution. Also who is going to be left holding the bag when the datacenter companies go bust and abandon these massive structures?
God, when did we become so short sighted to make a quick buck?
Or they have a year to remove the data center
Data centers = Tulips.
The end goal of capitalism is to build a data center that feeds you information about why socialism is evil while your power goes out due to capitalism