A business of 25 years with 25 employees ordered to close at no fault of its own for 6 months with no compensation.
What the actual fuck is happening in this country??
Such_Baker8707 on
What the actual fuck. Surely there needs to be compensation paid here or, and hear me out with this wild idea, it’s just left open and carry on trading.
MFfroom on
Surely just get accreditation for the staff and leave it open? I’m sure the staff in Dublin Castle would appreciate having the coffee nearby over the next while
tomconroydublin on
This is appalling
BeanEireannach on
>He said that a six-month closure would make it impossible for the business to reopen at the end of the presidency.
and
>The café has been offered no compensation for the closure, Phelan said.
I always pop in on my visits home, their afternoon tea with a twist is always delicious & the staff are always so lovely. Utterly horrible that they’ve been treated this way. Independent cafés should be supported, not destroyed.
Backrow6 on
Feels like there is a lot going unsaid in this article.
Does his lease make provision for this kind of event?
What’s happened on previous big occasions in the Castle?
The Chester Beatty is well inside the Castle complex, will the place just be a ghost town anyway if it’s locked down?
Is the library going to be shut, and does the café have it’s own front door?
He doesn’t know who made the decision, but who told him?
chimichurri_cosmico on
The OPW heads of dublin castle are cunts. I know them all, all cunts.
DoughnutHole on
Understandable that The Journal wouldn’t be privy to this info, but I’m curious what “security reasons” justify the closure.
It’s not really “at” the castle, it’s in the Chester Beatty Library which is a separate building. If the worry is security having to concern themselves with the foot traffic that doesn’t make sense since they’re not closing the library which is a sizeable tourist attraction, and the castle remains like 50 meters from the bustle of Dame Street.
Hot_Egg_5988 on
Regardless of what is right or wrong, either he has a case to take here for disturbance against them or he had agreed to a legal clause in his occupancy documents allowing this to happen.
I’m always cautious when someone goes to the press instead of their solicitor on this kind of thing
crlthrn on
Time to seek legal advice, surely?
walkinTheTown on
OPW say the castle will be closed to all general public access from July to Dec as it is the principal venue for all EU meetings, receptions etc. Chester Beatty library will be closed as well according to their website.
The „no access“ decisions will be made by the people managing security, not OPW.
Craicriture on
That seems incredibly high handed. They really need to compensate him and furlough the workers for the duration of the forced closure or provide them with an alternative venue to relocate to for the duration of the move, and buffer their income.
I wonder which organisation actually made this decision.
The costs of disrupting and closing a business to facilitate a state event can’t just be dumped on the business and its workers. That’s utterly ridiculous.
Apart from that imposed from on high decision, how the hell do they even expect a long standing business to just go away with 6 weeks notice? Businesses have employees, contracts with suppliers, credit lines, services contacts, stock, equipment and all sorts financial and practical commitments that can’t just be wound up at short notice. A brutal decision like that could end up causing serious financial implications for everyone involved as well as costing everyone working there their livelihood.
Intelligent-Aside214 on
This is insane. A six month closure could easily kill a business
mangoparrot on
Outrageous to do this with no discussion, no compensation.
Ragnarsfury1 on
Security reasons my bollocks
petrichordoors on
was the chester beatty closed during the last presidency? if they are compensated for a forced closure then they have a responsibility to compensate their tenant in turn (unless they’re being super shady and are using this an excuse to get em out.)
if it’s their own decision to close, for whatever reason, then they have a responsibility to either communicate with their tenant or accommodate their tenant remaining open
have-to on
This needs to be a news for EU, not just Ireland.
TheWonderkid866 on
Can someone explain why exactly it needs to close, I seen in the article that it’ll be a site for hosting and events as part of the EU presidency but is there another reason for it to be closed?
munstertom on
Worst thing to ever happen from the oppressive regime in Dublin Castle. They should hang their heads.
I can understand security risks with members of the public accessing the space but surely it makes sense to get security clearance for staff and hire them as caterers or something, rather than destroy a long standing and well loved business?
Fern_Pub_Radio on
A country of the Public Sector for the Public Sector and wouldn’t give 2 f**ks about a private sector sme which produces the tax to pay them their inflated salaries…. No surprise
52-61-64-75 on
literally why not just pay him 6 months of average gross revenue, its gotta be a completely negligible expense in the scheme of the presidency
United-Pension1018 on
I’d imagine with all these meetings they need catering for all the staff and attendees…why not give the contract to Silk Rd?
By the way they are spending millions on the castle. Currently retarmacing the roads….I suppose so they look nice for all the important people.
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-SideshowBlob- on
That’s absolute bollocks. Not offering compensation is ridiculous.
Guardian1959 on
Presumably there is a lease agreement in place Its terms should apply?
healywylie on
Raise a ruckus and save it!? Is this a possibility!?!
John__Delaney on
Hope he takes the state to court & i hope he wins big.
harry_dubois on
Absolutely ridiculous. At least compensate them projected earnings and structural expenses for the 6 months for god sake.
ForbiddenToblerone on
This is disgusting.
fylni on
So you’re telling me not only did no one tell them but the government would rather get a negative PR piece instead of leaving the cafe open, having photo ops of politicians in the cafe and supporting Irish small business as a potential tag line for positive PR but no they would rather do the opposite. They are handing fire to other political parties in this country to shame the current government. I’ve never seen a government be so incompetent.
CthulhusSoreTentacle on
Compensation absolutely needs to be provided to the owner and his staff.
PlantNerdxo on
The owner was taking to Claire Byrne this morning and apparently no one has come forward to accept responsibility for making this decision.
wh0else on
Security vet them and let them run, there’ll be plenty of politicos and journalists in need of a cuppa or snack
lood9phee2Ri on
Well, the megacorps/neofascists are no doubt about to use the Irish EU presidency and the craven FG/FF to try again to ram through some extremely unpopular things, can’t have the general public anywhere near them.
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A business of 25 years with 25 employees ordered to close at no fault of its own for 6 months with no compensation.
What the actual fuck is happening in this country??
What the actual fuck. Surely there needs to be compensation paid here or, and hear me out with this wild idea, it’s just left open and carry on trading.
Surely just get accreditation for the staff and leave it open? I’m sure the staff in Dublin Castle would appreciate having the coffee nearby over the next while
This is appalling
>He said that a six-month closure would make it impossible for the business to reopen at the end of the presidency.
and
>The café has been offered no compensation for the closure, Phelan said.
I always pop in on my visits home, their afternoon tea with a twist is always delicious & the staff are always so lovely. Utterly horrible that they’ve been treated this way. Independent cafés should be supported, not destroyed.
Feels like there is a lot going unsaid in this article.
Does his lease make provision for this kind of event?
What’s happened on previous big occasions in the Castle?
The Chester Beatty is well inside the Castle complex, will the place just be a ghost town anyway if it’s locked down?
Is the library going to be shut, and does the café have it’s own front door?
He doesn’t know who made the decision, but who told him?
The OPW heads of dublin castle are cunts. I know them all, all cunts.
Understandable that The Journal wouldn’t be privy to this info, but I’m curious what “security reasons” justify the closure.
It’s not really “at” the castle, it’s in the Chester Beatty Library which is a separate building. If the worry is security having to concern themselves with the foot traffic that doesn’t make sense since they’re not closing the library which is a sizeable tourist attraction, and the castle remains like 50 meters from the bustle of Dame Street.
Regardless of what is right or wrong, either he has a case to take here for disturbance against them or he had agreed to a legal clause in his occupancy documents allowing this to happen.
I’m always cautious when someone goes to the press instead of their solicitor on this kind of thing
Time to seek legal advice, surely?
OPW say the castle will be closed to all general public access from July to Dec as it is the principal venue for all EU meetings, receptions etc. Chester Beatty library will be closed as well according to their website.
The „no access“ decisions will be made by the people managing security, not OPW.
That seems incredibly high handed. They really need to compensate him and furlough the workers for the duration of the forced closure or provide them with an alternative venue to relocate to for the duration of the move, and buffer their income.
I wonder which organisation actually made this decision.
The costs of disrupting and closing a business to facilitate a state event can’t just be dumped on the business and its workers. That’s utterly ridiculous.
Apart from that imposed from on high decision, how the hell do they even expect a long standing business to just go away with 6 weeks notice? Businesses have employees, contracts with suppliers, credit lines, services contacts, stock, equipment and all sorts financial and practical commitments that can’t just be wound up at short notice. A brutal decision like that could end up causing serious financial implications for everyone involved as well as costing everyone working there their livelihood.
This is insane. A six month closure could easily kill a business
Outrageous to do this with no discussion, no compensation.
Security reasons my bollocks
was the chester beatty closed during the last presidency? if they are compensated for a forced closure then they have a responsibility to compensate their tenant in turn (unless they’re being super shady and are using this an excuse to get em out.)
if it’s their own decision to close, for whatever reason, then they have a responsibility to either communicate with their tenant or accommodate their tenant remaining open
This needs to be a news for EU, not just Ireland.
Can someone explain why exactly it needs to close, I seen in the article that it’ll be a site for hosting and events as part of the EU presidency but is there another reason for it to be closed?
Worst thing to ever happen from the oppressive regime in Dublin Castle. They should hang their heads.
https://preview.redd.it/z2uwwyizba1h1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14ae7716cd6bbb57215ade4b925dd040d202bf77
I can understand security risks with members of the public accessing the space but surely it makes sense to get security clearance for staff and hire them as caterers or something, rather than destroy a long standing and well loved business?
A country of the Public Sector for the Public Sector and wouldn’t give 2 f**ks about a private sector sme which produces the tax to pay them their inflated salaries…. No surprise
literally why not just pay him 6 months of average gross revenue, its gotta be a completely negligible expense in the scheme of the presidency
I’d imagine with all these meetings they need catering for all the staff and attendees…why not give the contract to Silk Rd?
By the way they are spending millions on the castle. Currently retarmacing the roads….I suppose so they look nice for all the important people.
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That’s absolute bollocks. Not offering compensation is ridiculous.
Presumably there is a lease agreement in place Its terms should apply?
Raise a ruckus and save it!? Is this a possibility!?!
Hope he takes the state to court & i hope he wins big.
Absolutely ridiculous. At least compensate them projected earnings and structural expenses for the 6 months for god sake.
This is disgusting.
So you’re telling me not only did no one tell them but the government would rather get a negative PR piece instead of leaving the cafe open, having photo ops of politicians in the cafe and supporting Irish small business as a potential tag line for positive PR but no they would rather do the opposite. They are handing fire to other political parties in this country to shame the current government. I’ve never seen a government be so incompetent.
Compensation absolutely needs to be provided to the owner and his staff.
The owner was taking to Claire Byrne this morning and apparently no one has come forward to accept responsibility for making this decision.
Security vet them and let them run, there’ll be plenty of politicos and journalists in need of a cuppa or snack
Well, the megacorps/neofascists are no doubt about to use the Irish EU presidency and the craven FG/FF to try again to ram through some extremely unpopular things, can’t have the general public anywhere near them.