Three more test positive. I now it’s close quarters, but the low transmissibility we were told about this disease seems suspect.
send420nudes on
I don’t understand why people are acting like this has been happening forever when hantavirus has existed for a long time and was never considered especially alarming before like it is now.
Ok_Flan4404 on
They’ve been advised by health expert ‚dr.‘ Robert F. Kennedy to drink plenty of raw milk…
radkattt on
Whyyyyyyy are we letting them all go home and then immediately finding out some are symptomatic??? This is literally the kind of stupid we used to laugh about in zombie movies/apocalypse movies because how would we ever be that dumb? And now we’re just sending infected patients all around the world. How can we blame people for panicking about another pandemic that’s supposedly unlikely when this is how we’re handling it?
Haru1st on
So we had all these people neatly quarantined on a isolated vessel and we just let them disembark before all passengers were tested and returned a negative result?
4_max_4 on
The biggest question here isn’t how many people are going to be infected. It’s whether the virus evolved into a different/more transmissible strain. There was an outbreak in Argentina in a birthday party in 2018/2019 and I recall there were more than 34-35 people infected at the end. They were able to contain it. And it didn’t make the news that much because it wasn’t post-pandemic level of histeria related to outbreaks, but the strain was the Andes itself. IF this is the same strain, containment is possible.
Intelligent_Slip_849 on
So, uh, if more people keep testing positive, WHY are we sending them everywhere?
aeraen on
We need legal protection for quarantined individuals so they don’t risk losing their jobs and their paychecks. Its a lot cheaper to cover a dozen people for eight weeks than it is to risk another covid. The main reason people try to get out of quarantine is because they need their job and paycheck.
ElydthiaUaDanann on
Well, it has a statistical 35 to 50 percent mortality rate. Somewhere between one in three and one in two statistically die, if infected. I don’t think the situation is being handled properly for this kind of risk factor. The trouble is that the situation is being responded to by multiple high level organizations, nationally and internationally. And then I wonder why that is. Is it not as bad as they say, and it’s just hype? Are the statistics wrong? Or are they releasing it for public review and intentionally trying to fan this? If, on the low end, it gets into the public and it has a one in three mortality rate, were talking about a third of a billion people dying *at least*.
Something’s definitely not right, here.
CollegeFootballGood on
Cruise ships suck lol I feel bad for these people. I just don’t really understand the logic to send them home. Couldn’t we have setup like a field hospital somewhere for them?
royale_wthCheEsE on
Real question : the official medical line is, transmission requires prolonged, close contact, right ? How are unrelated people contracting this? Did someone sit next to an infected person at a bar? Line up next to them at the buffet ? Is this a new, more virulent strain? Something doesn’t add up.
PanicProne on
WTF is everyone doing? This is turning out to be more contagious than everyone thought, and yet we’re treating this as an almost non-threat instead of treating it as an absolutely deadly infection (which it is!), unless proven otherwise?
Seriously, what is even happening right now?
zffjk on
Now I know this virus “isn’t COVID” but can we all at least agree this is being managed as poorly as COVID and speaks volumes about how politicized health strategies are?
natedogjulian on
Great movie 🍿
linkman0596 on
By my count, this brings the total confirmed cases up to 10, after the first person got sick in early to mid-April.
So after a month on a cruise ship, considered the ideal place for a virus like this to spread, out of around 150 people, 10 caught it.
KixStar on
Forget human rights. Should have kept them all on that ship until it was over.
fashpocalypse on
If you pay attention to the epidemiologists, this has a very low risk of becoming a pandemic. But damn, I feel bad for the passengers that tested positive. They’ve likely been agonizing about their risk for weeks but unable to leave the ship, and now they’ve got an almost 50% chance of death staring them in the face. Hopefully they luck out and more survive than usual.
FlyingDreamWhale67 on
Here’s a statement from the International Hantavirus Society:
Tldr: it’s not going to be a pandemic, but it should be taken seriously.
sunshinevibes16 on
Although keeping elders with complex needs on a ship would be “difficult”, it would be way cheaper to bring a medical ship to support them at sea than risk popping the bubble of spread, and risking millions of people who ALSO will have complex needs but won’t either be able to access medical care or we won’t have the resources to support them (as there’s nothing much to do for severe ARDS from hanta beyond ICU care -which is the most expensive treatment). Who made the decision to breech the containment?
TheFoxsWeddingTarot on
I was under the impression that transmission required “intimate contact” just what sort of cruise was this???
ElectronicMoo on
> Before the American case was confirmed, WHO head Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned that the decision by the US not to follow the organisation’s guidelines over the hantavirus outbreak „may have risks“.
> The WHO has recommended 42 days of isolation for those leaving the MV Hondius.
> But Dr Jay Bhattacharya, acting head of the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC), said he did not want to cause public panic
How about you prioritize public health, not public perception? Thats how covid kicked the US in the nutsack.
DickinessMaximus on
Nice let’s get this pandemic started I’m ready
Necessary-Paint117 on
WHY ARE THEY LEAVING THE SHIP
Hottentott14 on
2020 2.0
Lwfrqncy on
Good thing they can be out of sight and mind with all those non existent cruise inspectors that RFK fired.
Brodiggitty on
The year is 1347. Plague is carried by rats and spread around the world by people travelling on ships.
The year is 2026. Plague is carried by rats and spread around the world by people travelling on ships.
tliskop on
I am never going on a cruise ship. 100% not worth it.
CheeseSandwich on
Are people washing their groceries yet?
vasta2 on
For a virus that doesn’t spread very well it sure does seem to be spreading pretty well.
I’m keeping an eye on those 12 Dutch doctors, curious if any of them test positive
realKevinNash on
For a virus that supposedly doesnt transfer easily, it’s transferring pretty easily.
Gutter-Glitter00 on
Wow! That was a whole lot of people making out and swapping spit. /S
I’m sure all the hazmat and respiratory systems the healthcare workers are wearing is just to keep from getting droplets on them while they spend prolonged time in close quarters with the victims – and not because they have reason to believe that it is has potential to be airborne.
bantozant on
Wait wait wait..they let them OFF the ship??
joblox1220 on
of course the rich can do whatever they want
Reinersar2 on
This seems like a plot to destroy humanity
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Three more test positive. I now it’s close quarters, but the low transmissibility we were told about this disease seems suspect.
I don’t understand why people are acting like this has been happening forever when hantavirus has existed for a long time and was never considered especially alarming before like it is now.
They’ve been advised by health expert ‚dr.‘ Robert F. Kennedy to drink plenty of raw milk…
Whyyyyyyy are we letting them all go home and then immediately finding out some are symptomatic??? This is literally the kind of stupid we used to laugh about in zombie movies/apocalypse movies because how would we ever be that dumb? And now we’re just sending infected patients all around the world. How can we blame people for panicking about another pandemic that’s supposedly unlikely when this is how we’re handling it?
So we had all these people neatly quarantined on a isolated vessel and we just let them disembark before all passengers were tested and returned a negative result?
The biggest question here isn’t how many people are going to be infected. It’s whether the virus evolved into a different/more transmissible strain. There was an outbreak in Argentina in a birthday party in 2018/2019 and I recall there were more than 34-35 people infected at the end. They were able to contain it. And it didn’t make the news that much because it wasn’t post-pandemic level of histeria related to outbreaks, but the strain was the Andes itself. IF this is the same strain, containment is possible.
So, uh, if more people keep testing positive, WHY are we sending them everywhere?
We need legal protection for quarantined individuals so they don’t risk losing their jobs and their paychecks. Its a lot cheaper to cover a dozen people for eight weeks than it is to risk another covid. The main reason people try to get out of quarantine is because they need their job and paycheck.
Well, it has a statistical 35 to 50 percent mortality rate. Somewhere between one in three and one in two statistically die, if infected. I don’t think the situation is being handled properly for this kind of risk factor. The trouble is that the situation is being responded to by multiple high level organizations, nationally and internationally. And then I wonder why that is. Is it not as bad as they say, and it’s just hype? Are the statistics wrong? Or are they releasing it for public review and intentionally trying to fan this? If, on the low end, it gets into the public and it has a one in three mortality rate, were talking about a third of a billion people dying *at least*.
Something’s definitely not right, here.
Cruise ships suck lol I feel bad for these people. I just don’t really understand the logic to send them home. Couldn’t we have setup like a field hospital somewhere for them?
Real question : the official medical line is, transmission requires prolonged, close contact, right ? How are unrelated people contracting this? Did someone sit next to an infected person at a bar? Line up next to them at the buffet ? Is this a new, more virulent strain? Something doesn’t add up.
WTF is everyone doing? This is turning out to be more contagious than everyone thought, and yet we’re treating this as an almost non-threat instead of treating it as an absolutely deadly infection (which it is!), unless proven otherwise?
Seriously, what is even happening right now?
Now I know this virus “isn’t COVID” but can we all at least agree this is being managed as poorly as COVID and speaks volumes about how politicized health strategies are?
Great movie 🍿
By my count, this brings the total confirmed cases up to 10, after the first person got sick in early to mid-April.
So after a month on a cruise ship, considered the ideal place for a virus like this to spread, out of around 150 people, 10 caught it.
Forget human rights. Should have kept them all on that ship until it was over.
If you pay attention to the epidemiologists, this has a very low risk of becoming a pandemic. But damn, I feel bad for the passengers that tested positive. They’ve likely been agonizing about their risk for weeks but unable to leave the ship, and now they’ve got an almost 50% chance of death staring them in the face. Hopefully they luck out and more survive than usual.
Here’s a statement from the International Hantavirus Society:
https://zenodo.org/records/20075274
Tldr: it’s not going to be a pandemic, but it should be taken seriously.
Although keeping elders with complex needs on a ship would be “difficult”, it would be way cheaper to bring a medical ship to support them at sea than risk popping the bubble of spread, and risking millions of people who ALSO will have complex needs but won’t either be able to access medical care or we won’t have the resources to support them (as there’s nothing much to do for severe ARDS from hanta beyond ICU care -which is the most expensive treatment). Who made the decision to breech the containment?
I was under the impression that transmission required “intimate contact” just what sort of cruise was this???
> Before the American case was confirmed, WHO head Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned that the decision by the US not to follow the organisation’s guidelines over the hantavirus outbreak „may have risks“.
> The WHO has recommended 42 days of isolation for those leaving the MV Hondius.
> But Dr Jay Bhattacharya, acting head of the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC), said he did not want to cause public panic
How about you prioritize public health, not public perception? Thats how covid kicked the US in the nutsack.
Nice let’s get this pandemic started I’m ready
WHY ARE THEY LEAVING THE SHIP
2020 2.0
Good thing they can be out of sight and mind with all those non existent cruise inspectors that RFK fired.
The year is 1347. Plague is carried by rats and spread around the world by people travelling on ships.
The year is 2026. Plague is carried by rats and spread around the world by people travelling on ships.
I am never going on a cruise ship. 100% not worth it.
Are people washing their groceries yet?
For a virus that doesn’t spread very well it sure does seem to be spreading pretty well.
I’m keeping an eye on those 12 Dutch doctors, curious if any of them test positive
For a virus that supposedly doesnt transfer easily, it’s transferring pretty easily.
Wow! That was a whole lot of people making out and swapping spit. /S
I’m sure all the hazmat and respiratory systems the healthcare workers are wearing is just to keep from getting droplets on them while they spend prolonged time in close quarters with the victims – and not because they have reason to believe that it is has potential to be airborne.
Wait wait wait..they let them OFF the ship??
of course the rich can do whatever they want
This seems like a plot to destroy humanity