I wouldn’t trust this administration to fix a pot hole without first stripping us of some form of constitutional protection. Even then, they’re just going to fill it with pork.
vikasharma1893 on
Every attempt to stop robocall problem eventually turns into ‚what if we just destroy anonymity entirely?‘
borkyborkus on
They say they want to stop robocallers and their solution is to tie your ID to your phone. Unless all the scam calls are coming from burner phones, this is yet another expansion of the surveillance apparatus with no benefit to us.
Jaded-Moose983 on
>Among other sweeping changes, the era of the burner phone could end with the rollout of new “Know Your Customer” rules voted on by the FCC on April 30, as noted by the blog of the D.C. telecom law firm Wiley Rein. Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.
This removes what little privacy US customers have and does nothing to address the influx of scammers from overseas. Has SHAKEN/STIR even been implemented? Preventing the misuse of banks and other company’s phone numbers is still the greater scam.
Once again the goal seems to be removing citizens privacy as an excuse for some security. Remind me, what is Ben Franklin credited with saying?
ErusTenebre on
Pretty sure the robo calls happened because Trump lifted a regulation back in his first term.
Excellent-Refuse4883 on
Confused at how this helps anything. Phone numbers are largely public, so unless you’re somehow performing validation at call time how does this do anything….?
erkose on
How about we increase punishment for robocall operations instead?
Apart-Steak-7183 on
Well the system they use now sure the hell ain’t working
Cautious_Boat_999 on
Fuck Brendan Carr. Terrorist.
lifeat24fps on
This FCC, which is now stacked with con artists and Heritage foundation ideologue, is not going to solve any problem that makes your life better.
sfriedrich on
The actual truth is that this has nothing to do with robs-calls.
It has everything to do with depriving journalists of secret sources. The journalists wouldn’t be able to have calls coming in that weren’t traceable.
Everyone in this administration hates ANY truth leaking out !
imaginary_num6er on
They are the robocallers
h20poIo on
We kept a land line and all RoBo goes to that phone, we never answer it and clear it once a month.
NewsCards on
> Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.
People would need an existing phone number…to get a phone number.
Trump’s FCC, everyone.
monymkrmom on
Someone made a infinite callback script that goes through prompts until a human answers and then rickrolls them until they block his #. I want this script problem solved
lazyhustlermusic on
Just require SIP trunk operators to actually own the DID they originate from, that’s the entire problem.
h950 on
The phone down isn’t from burner phones. It’s from VoIP services. Caller IDs need tied to phone services and bulk number releases need tied to companies with reputation tracking
TheRhupt on
how about just force providers to stop it. tbey know what numbers 1000s of calls are coming from, what numbers are originating from outside places.
howescj82 on
Why on earth should anybody dealing with unwelcome parasitical robocalls have to present a government ID as any means of solving the problem?!
Packing-Tape-Man on
Yeah this is BS. They can easily solve the problem tomorrow if they wanted to without doing any of these. They don’t because they don’t want to solve it.
69goldeneye on
Their solution to everything is to keep crushing down on your privacy.
tehmobius on
Robocall relief (via the TCPA one-to-one consent rule) was one of the first things Trump killed in 2025. Biden’s FCC wrote a rule update that was trying to require individual consent for each vendor that might robocall, instead of allowing data brokers to sell consent to 3rd parties. They decided to make this go live after inauguration for some reason. Courts waited until Trump was in and then immediately killed it (2 days before going into effect).
Many of you probably don’t see this, but WinRed ( the primary online fundraising technology and donation processing platform for the American Republican Party) are relentless spammers. They spam through your phone, the mail, email. It would significantly reduce their reach if the loophole was closed.
bwoah07_gp2 on
It’s on brand for this administration to solve a problem by making it a bigger problem (that’s harder to fix)
ThrownAway17Years on
I miss Tom Wheeler.
BlackbirdSage on
„Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.“
Okay, I’m buying a phone, but I have to provide an existing phone number?
I’m sure there’s loopholes for first time phone buyers, right?
12PoundCankles on
Most of these calls are originating overseas. This is not going to fix that. They want to track every move you make, everything you say, everything you do, etc.
MrBaseball1994 on
I see not a single benefit from this proposed process. It only allows the govt to be able to find you easier, unless you use 1060 West Addison, Chicago as your address 😁
To rightfully stop robo calls…
The telcos should have the capability to know the CNAM DB that the CallerID info came from and be able to notify customers of the CNAM listings if they request it.
This can also help consumers track down and SUE scammers.
You see, the scammers setup agreements with some telco providers to allow them to make modifications to their CNAM entry, essentially hiding who they are. This is prohibited in the CallerID Act of 2009 and every single one of those scammers fake or omit their CallerID.
This is paramount if we want to begin to slow the deluge of scam calls. You see they make their money off of CallerID. The telcos that provide their service keep their own CNAM databases. The CNAM database is a database that your telephone company queries to find out the originating CallerID.
When your telephone company queries that database for the CallerID, they have to pay the telco that provides the CallerID info; it’s called a CNAM Dip fee. It is a fraction of a penny but with millions of calls, it can add up. Then the telco that owns the database pays the scammers a portion of that fee.
The only real way to get rid of all these scam calls is to:
1. Create a nationwide CNAM database that only registered companies can modify and it must follow the Do-Not-Call list.
2. Do away with CNAM Dip fees for all companies.
Most people say that blocking them is the way but blocking numbers does nothing because CNAM Dips take place even before a call is sent to your phone. So the scammers get paid if you don’t answer, block them, etc.
TLDR; Let’s get rid of scam calls for good by eliminating their source of revenue.
Chiiro on
I have gotten more robocalls in the last couple days that I have in like a year.
boon_dingle on
The ad banner on gizmodo’s site is abysmal. It’s taking up one third of my vertical phone screen, with no way to close, and unable to even load its own content.
I wish I had access to Developer Tools on my phone’s browser and be able to delete this shit in real-time.
chigunfingy on
The man pictured in the thumbnail is one of the MOST caustic people to all forms of human progress. How he ever got into power is astounding.
rr777 on
that face chose to censor late night talk show hosts under the direction of the white house.
Great-Rest7878 on
Just outright ban the practice, nobody wants it, period.
ThirdSunRising on
All they have to do is prevent spoofing. It’s that damn simple. We don’t need anyone’s identity, if your number gets used for spam it gets blacklisted quickly and we move on.
Venator2000 on
That’s the Trump Administration in a nutshell: he got all the tech billionaires together and guaranteed them all millions of profits if they just played along with him and didn’t try to release anything dirty on him. This would obviously force everyone back into costly contracts with phone companies.
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I wouldn’t trust this administration to fix a pot hole without first stripping us of some form of constitutional protection. Even then, they’re just going to fill it with pork.
Every attempt to stop robocall problem eventually turns into ‚what if we just destroy anonymity entirely?‘
They say they want to stop robocallers and their solution is to tie your ID to your phone. Unless all the scam calls are coming from burner phones, this is yet another expansion of the surveillance apparatus with no benefit to us.
>Among other sweeping changes, the era of the burner phone could end with the rollout of new “Know Your Customer” rules voted on by the FCC on April 30, as noted by the blog of the D.C. telecom law firm Wiley Rein. Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.
This removes what little privacy US customers have and does nothing to address the influx of scammers from overseas. Has SHAKEN/STIR even been implemented? Preventing the misuse of banks and other company’s phone numbers is still the greater scam.
Once again the goal seems to be removing citizens privacy as an excuse for some security. Remind me, what is Ben Franklin credited with saying?
Pretty sure the robo calls happened because Trump lifted a regulation back in his first term.
Confused at how this helps anything. Phone numbers are largely public, so unless you’re somehow performing validation at call time how does this do anything….?
How about we increase punishment for robocall operations instead?
Well the system they use now sure the hell ain’t working
Fuck Brendan Carr. Terrorist.
This FCC, which is now stacked with con artists and Heritage foundation ideologue, is not going to solve any problem that makes your life better.
The actual truth is that this has nothing to do with robs-calls.
It has everything to do with depriving journalists of secret sources. The journalists wouldn’t be able to have calls coming in that weren’t traceable.
Everyone in this administration hates ANY truth leaking out !
They are the robocallers
We kept a land line and all RoBo goes to that phone, we never answer it and clear it once a month.
> Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.
People would need an existing phone number…to get a phone number.
Trump’s FCC, everyone.
Someone made a infinite callback script that goes through prompts until a human answers and then rickrolls them until they block his #. I want this script problem solved
Just require SIP trunk operators to actually own the DID they originate from, that’s the entire problem.
The phone down isn’t from burner phones. It’s from VoIP services. Caller IDs need tied to phone services and bulk number releases need tied to companies with reputation tracking
how about just force providers to stop it. tbey know what numbers 1000s of calls are coming from, what numbers are originating from outside places.
Why on earth should anybody dealing with unwelcome parasitical robocalls have to present a government ID as any means of solving the problem?!
Yeah this is BS. They can easily solve the problem tomorrow if they wanted to without doing any of these. They don’t because they don’t want to solve it.
Their solution to everything is to keep crushing down on your privacy.
Robocall relief (via the TCPA one-to-one consent rule) was one of the first things Trump killed in 2025. Biden’s FCC wrote a rule update that was trying to require individual consent for each vendor that might robocall, instead of allowing data brokers to sell consent to 3rd parties. They decided to make this go live after inauguration for some reason. Courts waited until Trump was in and then immediately killed it (2 days before going into effect).
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-408396A1.pdf
And then they eliminated enforcement by laying off staff that would have done so.
https://broadbandbreakfast.com/lawmakers-warn-robocall-scams-surging-as-trump-cuts-enforcement/
Many of you probably don’t see this, but WinRed ( the primary online fundraising technology and donation processing platform for the American Republican Party) are relentless spammers. They spam through your phone, the mail, email. It would significantly reduce their reach if the loophole was closed.
It’s on brand for this administration to solve a problem by making it a bigger problem (that’s harder to fix)
I miss Tom Wheeler.
„Customers would, according to the proposed rules, have to present a government ID, a physical address, a full legal name, and an existing phone number.“
Okay, I’m buying a phone, but I have to provide an existing phone number?
I’m sure there’s loopholes for first time phone buyers, right?
Most of these calls are originating overseas. This is not going to fix that. They want to track every move you make, everything you say, everything you do, etc.
I see not a single benefit from this proposed process. It only allows the govt to be able to find you easier, unless you use 1060 West Addison, Chicago as your address 😁
To rightfully stop robo calls…
The telcos should have the capability to know the CNAM DB that the CallerID info came from and be able to notify customers of the CNAM listings if they request it.
This can also help consumers track down and SUE scammers.
You see, the scammers setup agreements with some telco providers to allow them to make modifications to their CNAM entry, essentially hiding who they are. This is prohibited in the CallerID Act of 2009 and every single one of those scammers fake or omit their CallerID.
This is paramount if we want to begin to slow the deluge of scam calls. You see they make their money off of CallerID. The telcos that provide their service keep their own CNAM databases. The CNAM database is a database that your telephone company queries to find out the originating CallerID.
When your telephone company queries that database for the CallerID, they have to pay the telco that provides the CallerID info; it’s called a CNAM Dip fee. It is a fraction of a penny but with millions of calls, it can add up. Then the telco that owns the database pays the scammers a portion of that fee.
The only real way to get rid of all these scam calls is to:
1. Create a nationwide CNAM database that only registered companies can modify and it must follow the Do-Not-Call list.
2. Do away with CNAM Dip fees for all companies.
Most people say that blocking them is the way but blocking numbers does nothing because CNAM Dips take place even before a call is sent to your phone. So the scammers get paid if you don’t answer, block them, etc.
TLDR; Let’s get rid of scam calls for good by eliminating their source of revenue.
I have gotten more robocalls in the last couple days that I have in like a year.
The ad banner on gizmodo’s site is abysmal. It’s taking up one third of my vertical phone screen, with no way to close, and unable to even load its own content.
I wish I had access to Developer Tools on my phone’s browser and be able to delete this shit in real-time.
The man pictured in the thumbnail is one of the MOST caustic people to all forms of human progress. How he ever got into power is astounding.
that face chose to censor late night talk show hosts under the direction of the white house.
Just outright ban the practice, nobody wants it, period.
All they have to do is prevent spoofing. It’s that damn simple. We don’t need anyone’s identity, if your number gets used for spam it gets blacklisted quickly and we move on.
That’s the Trump Administration in a nutshell: he got all the tech billionaires together and guaranteed them all millions of profits if they just played along with him and didn’t try to release anything dirty on him. This would obviously force everyone back into costly contracts with phone companies.