Not in Europe but since it’s naturally on the map and interesting; Africa used to be just what’s roughly Tunisia and evolved to become the whole African continent.
Wasn’t the term ‚europe‘ first used by iberian (muslim) scholars to describe the empire of Charlemagne? As such why is greece named europe?
Momik on
Interesting. A few others come to mind—Poland, Ruthenia, Lithuania, places calling themselves Roman.
lndlml on
Scandinavia originated from Scania (in Swedish Skåne) and it still exists as Skåne region in south of Sweden.
Supatank_2105 on
Roman – Romania 🇷🇴 🚡
Ill_Literature3085 on
interesting take, but let’s focus on the map details instead
Long-Requirement8372 on
The bigger borders of „Finland“ don’t really make sense in comparison with the other maps, as they show only some of modern (or 1920-1940) Finland. We have called all of Finland „Finland“ since it has had defined political borders after 1809. All the other maps show the name’s meaning in its biggest geographical reach.
TehChid on
Sorry, what am I looking at here?
Hethsegew on
Also Volga Bulgaria.
DaleDenton08 on
My favorite fact about medieval Bulgaria was that they simultaneously existed alongside another Bulgar state along the Volga, who also converted to Islam in 922.
Lepetino on
Yes, Finland included! Also in Finnish something similar happened to the name of Estonia: we call it “Viro”, which comes from an Estonian region called Viru.
Royal-Strawberry-601 on
Also Limburg, Groningen, Switzerland, India, Indonesia
First two came from a city, in the case of Limburg quite far from what is now known as Limburg (2 provinces, one in Belgium, one in The Netherlands). Switzerland similar, quite a small city in fact. India is named after a single river. Indonesia after the same river (!)
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You could add Scotland as well as it used to be much smaller than it currently is and just one of several kingdoms in what are now the current borders.
That’s why the region comprising the dark part of Finland is called Finland proper.
jetmcquack84 on
Italy is wrong: it’s not from Calbria, but from central Italian tribes, between Abruzzo and Basilicata
assumptioncookie on
Also Rome – Romania
Electrical-Drink-183 on
Also Saxony (that moved from the western part of modern Germany to the zones of leipzig and dresden today) and Calabria, which if now is the region that almost touches italy at the Romans’ time it was the one that it’s called Apulia now
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France was just a little area north of Paris. Around Roissy-en-France.
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Not in Europe but since it’s naturally on the map and interesting; Africa used to be just what’s roughly Tunisia and evolved to become the whole African continent.
Based on [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/fo3enh/shifting_place_names_in_africa/) map
Wasn’t the term ‚europe‘ first used by iberian (muslim) scholars to describe the empire of Charlemagne? As such why is greece named europe?
Interesting. A few others come to mind—Poland, Ruthenia, Lithuania, places calling themselves Roman.
Scandinavia originated from Scania (in Swedish Skåne) and it still exists as Skåne region in south of Sweden.
Roman – Romania 🇷🇴 🚡
interesting take, but let’s focus on the map details instead
The bigger borders of „Finland“ don’t really make sense in comparison with the other maps, as they show only some of modern (or 1920-1940) Finland. We have called all of Finland „Finland“ since it has had defined political borders after 1809. All the other maps show the name’s meaning in its biggest geographical reach.
Sorry, what am I looking at here?
Also Volga Bulgaria.
My favorite fact about medieval Bulgaria was that they simultaneously existed alongside another Bulgar state along the Volga, who also converted to Islam in 922.
Yes, Finland included! Also in Finnish something similar happened to the name of Estonia: we call it “Viro”, which comes from an Estonian region called Viru.
Also Limburg, Groningen, Switzerland, India, Indonesia
First two came from a city, in the case of Limburg quite far from what is now known as Limburg (2 provinces, one in Belgium, one in The Netherlands). Switzerland similar, quite a small city in fact. India is named after a single river. Indonesia after the same river (!)
You could add Scotland as well as it used to be much smaller than it currently is and just one of several kingdoms in what are now the current borders.
also île-de-france in France!
France
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Germania_inferior_roads_towns.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Germania_inferior_roads_towns.png)
That’s why the region comprising the dark part of Finland is called Finland proper.
Italy is wrong: it’s not from Calbria, but from central Italian tribes, between Abruzzo and Basilicata
Also Rome – Romania
Also Saxony (that moved from the western part of modern Germany to the zones of leipzig and dresden today) and Calabria, which if now is the region that almost touches italy at the Romans’ time it was the one that it’s called Apulia now
France was just a little area north of Paris. Around Roissy-en-France.
Lithuania also initially refered to the land inhabited by the [Lithuanian tribe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanians_(tribe)) . Later that tribe expanded and so did the name.
I think many country names originated similarly.
Iberia is another name of Georgia btw.
What about Rome? From one city to an empire, then back to one city.
makes me think of learning about the reconquista in history class
Transylvania
This is not what Europe used to mean
Europe used to mean JUST the coast between Euboea and Thessaloniki, which is much narrower than the map indicates
Saxony also moved from where it was a thousand years ago with almost no overlap at all.
The „Land of the Angles“ moved from southern Denmark to that one island next to Ireland.
You could also include Holland, but that shift is very controversial on Reddit
Maybe a legend on the map would be helpful.