I did a trademark on my facial features but Kash Patel keeps stealing them.
Flimsy-Jello5534 on
“Your honour she’s not even blue”
“You’re right, case dismissed.”
Angry-Dragon-1331 on
Assuming the clip she references is genuine, she might have a case now that your visual likeness is becoming something that is legally protected.
Perma_frosting on
I was thinking this was a strange claim, since obviously Cameron didn’t just base his character design on a real teenager without asking. Except nope, he did.
„The lawsuit states that Kilcher only learned that Cameron had used her facial features so directly after an interview clip of the director began circulating on social media last year. In the video, Cameron stands with the Neytiri sketch, saying: “The actual source for this was a photo in the LA Times, a young actress named Q’orianka Kilcher. This is actually her … her lower face. She had a very interesting face.”
Blakeyo123 on
If he just said he did it he must’ve genuinely thought he was doing nothing wrong
Zealousideal_Order_8 on
“Cameron admitted to stealing? Say it ain’t so” – Harlan Ellison (from beyond the grave)
veilchenblau_39 on
I am reminded of the Lindsey Lohan GTA kerfuffle
dakotanorth8 on
Can’t wait for oddly looking people to be like “The minions were modeled after my face!!!” /s
Ok-Bite-5145 on
People sue for literally anything now.
m2r9 on
> Kilcher’s lead counsel said in a press release that Cameron’s strategy was “not inspiration, it was extraction … He took the unique biometric facial features of a 14-year-old Indigenous girl, ran them through an industrial production process and generated billions of dollars in profit without ever once asking her permission. That is not film-making. That is theft.”
How embarrassing for your law firm to blatantly use ChatGPT in a press release.
BillianForsee94 on
Seems a little bit dumb to me. He saw an interesting face and used part of it in a design sketch. It’s not like it came out as a 1-1 match. Just inspiration.
I also really don’t like the wording … “using a 14 year old indigenous girl’s face” … weirdly trying to instantly frame this as some sort of insidious white supremacy-like thing
3DNZ on
Neytiri is based off a facial scan of Zoe Saldaña. Her lips and lower mouth are 1:1.
ImAvoidingABan on
I don’t see it tbh
xxElevationXX on
Another problem with this is it’s gonna further justify them for wanting to use AI models instead of real people so they don’t have to deal with this
zeptillian on
„exploited a young Indigenous girl’s biometric identity and cultural heritage“
Ok. Sure.
Why the fuck they can’t they just claim he appropriated her likeness? Did they take her fingerprints and DNA or base the entire alien race on her native heritage specifically? I really doubt that.
By making the claims so outrageous, it makes me take them a lot less seriously.
Alert_Reindeer_6574 on
Not even close. It’s clearly Zoe Saldana. Look at the shape of the face. Look at the lips. This claim is beyond absurd.
Pure_evil1979 on
I know how she feels. My lower half was used as a reference for Samson in 28 Years Later (just not the lower half of my face)
Shooter_McGavin_666 on
Lol what a laughable money grab. It doesn’t look like her at all.
When he released Aliens, he gave no credit to H.R. Giger for the xenomorph design. He later sent a letter of apology to Giger but you’d think you’d credit the artist behind the monster.
tylercuddletail on
This legit proves my theory that James Cameron’s Avatar is „Pocahontas in Space“ as they legit stole the face of an actress who legit played „Pocahontas“ in a live action movie from 2005 called „The New World“.
Daedalus80 on
This is the lamest lawsuit I’ve ever seen.
Neytiri is a 10 foot tall blue skinned alien with big cat eyes and elf ears and has more in common with Zoey Saldana.
Maybe this girl had some small part to play by the overall look but it’s so small as to be negligible.
Did Ben Affleck get comped for final fantasy the spirits within?
Similar-Act7653 on
My time to sue the creators of Shrek…
coverdr1 on
James Cameron ’stole‘ a tree in my garden to be the Hometree in the 1st Avatar movie (100% true). Should I sue him for that?
artifexlife on
Reddit likes James Cameron too much. He literally said he used parts of her face in the design and everyone is arguing for him and just saying it was “inspired at best”.
BowtiepastaMasta on
I guess her career stalled and this is her chance for a pay day.
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I don’t think this is going to go anywhere
I did a trademark on my facial features but Kash Patel keeps stealing them.
“Your honour she’s not even blue”
“You’re right, case dismissed.”
Assuming the clip she references is genuine, she might have a case now that your visual likeness is becoming something that is legally protected.
I was thinking this was a strange claim, since obviously Cameron didn’t just base his character design on a real teenager without asking. Except nope, he did.
„The lawsuit states that Kilcher only learned that Cameron had used her facial features so directly after an interview clip of the director began circulating on social media last year. In the video, Cameron stands with the Neytiri sketch, saying: “The actual source for this was a photo in the LA Times, a young actress named Q’orianka Kilcher. This is actually her … her lower face. She had a very interesting face.”
If he just said he did it he must’ve genuinely thought he was doing nothing wrong
“Cameron admitted to stealing? Say it ain’t so” – Harlan Ellison (from beyond the grave)
I am reminded of the Lindsey Lohan GTA kerfuffle
Can’t wait for oddly looking people to be like “The minions were modeled after my face!!!” /s
People sue for literally anything now.
> Kilcher’s lead counsel said in a press release that Cameron’s strategy was “not inspiration, it was extraction … He took the unique biometric facial features of a 14-year-old Indigenous girl, ran them through an industrial production process and generated billions of dollars in profit without ever once asking her permission. That is not film-making. That is theft.”
How embarrassing for your law firm to blatantly use ChatGPT in a press release.
Seems a little bit dumb to me. He saw an interesting face and used part of it in a design sketch. It’s not like it came out as a 1-1 match. Just inspiration.
I also really don’t like the wording … “using a 14 year old indigenous girl’s face” … weirdly trying to instantly frame this as some sort of insidious white supremacy-like thing
Neytiri is based off a facial scan of Zoe Saldaña. Her lips and lower mouth are 1:1.
I don’t see it tbh
Another problem with this is it’s gonna further justify them for wanting to use AI models instead of real people so they don’t have to deal with this
„exploited a young Indigenous girl’s biometric identity and cultural heritage“
Ok. Sure.
Why the fuck they can’t they just claim he appropriated her likeness? Did they take her fingerprints and DNA or base the entire alien race on her native heritage specifically? I really doubt that.
By making the claims so outrageous, it makes me take them a lot less seriously.
Not even close. It’s clearly Zoe Saldana. Look at the shape of the face. Look at the lips. This claim is beyond absurd.
I know how she feels. My lower half was used as a reference for Samson in 28 Years Later (just not the lower half of my face)
Lol what a laughable money grab. It doesn’t look like her at all.
I’ve seen the [sketch](https://www.reddit.com/r/Avatar/comments/10q78mq/early_sketch_of_navi_neytiri_by_james_cameron/) in question, and yes, it bears a strong resemblance to Kilcher’s lower face. However, the actual film version of Neytiri is clearly based off Zoe Saldana’s facial structure. I don’t see this lawsuit going anywhere.
All I can see is Zoe Saldaña
Not the first time he’s not given credit.
When he released Aliens, he gave no credit to H.R. Giger for the xenomorph design. He later sent a letter of apology to Giger but you’d think you’d credit the artist behind the monster.
This legit proves my theory that James Cameron’s Avatar is „Pocahontas in Space“ as they legit stole the face of an actress who legit played „Pocahontas“ in a live action movie from 2005 called „The New World“.
This is the lamest lawsuit I’ve ever seen.
Neytiri is a 10 foot tall blue skinned alien with big cat eyes and elf ears and has more in common with Zoey Saldana.
Maybe this girl had some small part to play by the overall look but it’s so small as to be negligible.
Did Ben Affleck get comped for final fantasy the spirits within?
My time to sue the creators of Shrek…
James Cameron ’stole‘ a tree in my garden to be the Hometree in the 1st Avatar movie (100% true). Should I sue him for that?
Reddit likes James Cameron too much. He literally said he used parts of her face in the design and everyone is arguing for him and just saying it was “inspired at best”.
I guess her career stalled and this is her chance for a pay day.