
Laut PAC müssen im neuen nationalen Kinderkrankenhaus „beispiellose 106.500 Mängel“ behoben werden
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/oireachtas/2026/04/29/dust-in-ventilation-ducts-further-delay-national-childrens-hospital-completion-date/
Von MotherDucker95
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That’s a long waiting list…
I can’t anymore, I just can’t.
*saunters off into the sunshine to get an ice cream*
Just a reminder for anybody thinking about votes moving forward – Simon Harris is responsible for this.
This works out at **more than one defect for every 1.5 square meters**. That’s absolutely ludicrous. As in several defects in every room in the building on average.
Are we all still supposed to be pretending that an omnishambles like this is totally normal or can we expect some form of accountability from those responsible for this clusterfuck at any stage?
It was badly procured and they needed to keep changing stuff after the fact. Professionals were needed at the getgo to nail down every light switch and bedpan. This is what we need and give us a price,job done.
Ah what a microcosm. Sum up everything wrong with the ‚richest country in Europe‘.
“This will be the 19th time Bam has changed its own substantial completion date. The employer’s representative (the independent third party responsible for administering the contract) wrote to BAM on the 27th March 2026 to formally request an updated contract programme. At the point in time we provided this opening statement to the committee, this programme update had not been provided by Bam Ireland to the employers representative”, Gunning is expected to say.”
““As a result, there has been no consistent ‘right-first-time’ approach to delivery. Bam has also failed to properly programme, co-ordinate, and sequence the works in a logical and efficient manner. This has led directly to disruptions, inefficiencies, and significant on-site rework.””
But I was told yesterday to look at the children’s hospital as critical infrastructure to show all the nice things we have as a result of our GDP…
Knock it down and start over. It’s the only way.
Is there any one managing this project from the Government perspective, how can this be allowed to happed? The contractor should never get another job anywhere after this
And thats why legislators are legislators.. None of them were any good at building hospitals outside of politics, whey did they try and do it here. This project was political from Berties days…
Are all those defects an item needing inteervention or does 1000 disappear in one action. e.g. dust in room repeated 1000 times, sorted by one large cleaning contracdt..
This is what happens when you rush a job
They did a tour of it on Prime Time and the level of architectural complexity seems absolutely insane.
Yes, it’s lovely to make it look beautiful… but not at the cost of not finishing it for decades.
It was completely over designed to begin with.
little snag list……was to be expected after a decade or so……
It’s fairly obvious for a while that the completion dates were just long enough to seem reasonable but obviously not realistic at all. If they said at the start ‚ya we’ll need 2 years more‘ people would lose their mind. When you say ‚another 6 months‘ people lose their mind and think well 6 months isn’t too bad I guess.
I got no idea what sort of contact it is but the fact BAM seems cocky enough about it and have threatened to walk away in the past makes it seem like the contact is favourable to them and they have already got enough money so fucking off wouldn’t be an issue for them.
Sorry but I have to laugh, because such blazing corruption and money embezzlement won’t even fly in Eastern Europe, by now people would have been on the streets with pitchforks and torches, the gov forced to resign and some form of early investigations began. The media would have spilled all that everywhere and the opposition would have made a joke out of the current government whenever and wherever possible. In Ireland people just bury their heads in the sand and pretend it never happened and attribute all the problems to “mismanagement of funds”!
David McWilliams podcast had an economist and engineer on last week sinead O’Sullivan and it was a grim listening about why we just can’t get anything built and how we are like a kid with pocket money with no sense of how to spend it prudently. Then an article like this pops up and it’s hard to refute it.
What an embarrassment smh I mean, I expect a certain level of corruption sure people will line their pockets with our taxes – that’s normal – but for key projects to fail so spectacularly is just… embarrassing… Civil service and building contractors should *at least* show *some level* of competence and pride for our country and its development! This is pathetic.
Did you know over in the UK the NHS built a major regional full service hospital in Cartlsile trough a PFI arrangement for a down payment of £67 million and further installments over 30 years to maintain the property which will come to about £600 million in the end?
People will still disagree with me but this should have been built on a greenfield site off a motorway.
Building should have been rectangular and boring as fuck with a massive car park.
How many rooms does it even have? How many defects per room?
Success has many parents but failure is an orphan
Such an interesting dilemma though no? Ok on one hand we have the obvious riding of the government for all they have but to have 106500 outstanding issues is insanity.
At what point is the HSE or the NPHBD responsible for the outrageous amounts of changes to the design, leading to more delays across all of the design consultants, not just the contractor? Not to mention government bureaucracy to make these decisions in the first place?
These Irish Times articles and the government are always quite happy to leave the failings of the project to the contractor when I feel there’s much more at stake. Pales in comparison to the scandal they’ll have on their hands when they have no nurses when this place is actually commissioned.
Well what can you expect with such a rushed project? On a serious note can we ask the EU to build and manage infrastructure projects for us now? Clearly we can’t do them ourselves.
Heads need to roll for this at this stage
Is this the snag list?
If it is its quite large but quite a large project and just shows that the snaggers are doing a good job and arnt saying feck it, its done get it open and we will fix everything later and pay for it again.
I’ve been involved with high spec projects like this and snags can be anything, nuts not having plastic caps on them, screws on a socket not lined up with the screw beside it, labels missing, a bit of tape missing off lagging, a scratch on a wall.
They will be dished out to each trade/ sub contractor and people will be bulling through them 20 at a time.
If they are actually defects I’d be a bit concerned.
Dust on ventilation ducts seems to be the biggest concern according to the article. That would be likely the filters on the fan coil units weren’t protected with a bag taped to it for the whole of construction and thy need to be hoovered. I’ve installed AC for years on sites like these. Could also be just that the actual exterior of the ducts need a wipe down because it’s exposed ceilings and the cleaners didn’t have a big ladder or weren’t allowed use their ladder because they didn’t have a ladder permit for anything other than a podium ladder.
This article is either the reporter doesn’t have a clue about the building trade or he is purposely rage baiting.
I got well over a hundred snags one day from Kirby and every one was an individual white plastic cap missing from each individual nut on cable tray down a hall. I was waiting for the fella with the van to come back from the suppliers. Took less than half an hour once he got there
Gives me great hope for the metro.
My kids are close to teen years. They’ll be aged out of being able to attend this by the time it’s finally ready to open
Sometimes I feel like Ireland is just such a deeply unserious country.
We can’t even manage the most basic of infrastructure without causing ridiculous issues. This thing is on track to be one of the most expensive buildings in modern history, and even then it stil has issues.
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse!
It’s convenient to blame the developers when the real story is public sector incompetence and complete lack of accountability.
There are embarrassing levels of incompetence in the management of this country. We have an abundance of money but manage to make a ridiculous mess out of doing anything with it
Given there’s over a billion cost over run, when this is all said and done, the state should be suing for the difference. If the court even attributed 25% of blame to Bam, that’s €250m back for the tax payer. Action should also be taken to get a legal dispensation to allow the government to blacklist BAM from public tenders in Ireland for 50 years due to unreliable tendering surrounding deliverables.
The Irish Sagrada Família at this stage
Ban BAM
As intended