Die Schaffung der Vereinigten Staaten von Europa sei die einzige Lösung für Europa, sagt der tschechische Präsident Petr Pavel (Link auf Tschechisch).

https://www.denik.cz/z_domova/prezident-petr-pavel-vznik-spojene-stary-evropske-francouzsky-jaderny-destnik.html

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  1. Czech President Petr Pavel said in a public debate that a United States of Europe may be the only realistic way for Europe to remain globally relevant.

    He argued that the world is entering a period dominated by major global powers, which increases both security risks for Europe and the danger of losing competitiveness. According to him, Europe can only act as a global power if it speaks with one voice, implying deeper integration or federalization similar to the United States.

    Pavel acknowledged that nationalist sentiments are rising across EU countries, but believes a more pragmatic approach is prevailing. He stressed that Europe can no longer rely on the US for security or on the East for energy, and must become more self-sufficient.

    He also defended maintaining European values and identity, referencing ideas associated with Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk, and rejected calls to abandon “
    value-based politics, arguing that these principles remain essential for Europe’s future.

  2. Frequent-Chain-6082 on

    About time, yes. And I add: the only possibility for the whole world.

  3. DaySecure7642 on

    A strong and united liberal/democratic Europe is generally good for humanity. Russia and China may not like it.

  4. FantasticQuartet on

    Okay, but do we really need to change the name? European Union already sounds good to me, and it’s different from what the Yanks got.

  5. ConcernHealthy876 on

    Man Reddit is so far from reality. Everyone in this thread supports it. – I wish we had a balanced user base here.

    USE is not happening.

  6. Bright-Scallin on

    At the same time, we have Merz saying that it’s necessary to create another body in the EU to, I kid you not, supervise and, if necessary, veto the laws of the European Commission.

    I honestly don’t know how the EU is going to emerge from this insignificance and move forward with the European project like this. Since the Lisbon Treaty, the EU has simply stalled.

  7. Capital_Resident_872 on

    I like Petr Pavel. I’m biased towards people with military background in politics, but what I’ve heard from this guy has always been sensible.

  8. SignificantRepeat370 on

    Without the shared language, it’s never going to be the same thing as the US. The EU is a great thing, but as long as most people will live in the very country they were born in (seems pretty inevitable due to the language reasons), it makes sense to let the individual countries decide a lot more things than the US states do. 

  9. STOP CALLING IT UNITED STATES OF EUROPE! „USE“ is just silly.

    Call it European Union, or European Federation, but don’t use „united states“

  10. Yeah, no.

    Either small countries are going to get absolutely railroaded by the bigger countries or you have a fundamentally undemocratic representative system.

    The interests and people of Europe are far too diverse to be lumped together into one country and I’ll never support it.

  11. sandro66140 on

    Je suis pas d’accord avec le nom mais oui je pense que l’approche fédérale de l’Europe est une bonne idée.

  12. There’s absolutely nothing which can get me to ever vote in favor for this, be it in an actual vote or simply voting for politicians who are in favor of this. 

  13. AlsoCommiePuddin on

    I think the EU Parliament is closer to what the American founders envisioned as a federal government than the one they devised.

  14. Odd_Subject_3001 on

    I admire many things about the EU, but this does not sit well with me.

  15. Sad-Tangelo6110 on

    Just have to make sure there are very strong guardrails against fascism and corruption. I didn’t think it would happen in the USA but here we are.

  16. CallMeEpiphany on

    The level of cooperation you need between countries for a United Europe is currently unconstitutional between different German provinces.

  17. In this very comment section people are already arguing about the name of the future european superpower. Not to mention the not so little question about a common language. The whole idea is loaded with question marks, the discussion itself about those has the potential to blow up the Union we already have.

  18. emain_macha on

    Every time they say this it creates more euroskeptics. Is that their goal?

    Hell, I’m generally pro-EU but every time I listen to these statements I find myself moving slightly towards anti-EU each time.

  19. I think the example the United States provides is that you *shouldn’t* have a country so vast, and of such a differing range of opinions – all the polarisation they have, they have even with a common history and language! The EU could function far more smoothly with a touch less bureaucracy, and an end to the veto power – but it will do far better to remain a voluntary union of collaborating countries, than to become a national federation, which, whatever attempts are made to prevent this, will only centralise with time, because centralisation allows for the smoother running of a nation. I think it is also worth noting that the EU becoming a formal country (and not merely taking *some* more steps towards integration and ease) is not a broadly popular opinion, but it is one disproportionately popular online.

  20. AccomplishedBug859 on

    The problem with “Europe must speak with one voice” is on what exactly?
    On defense, energy, trade, technology? Sure. That makes sense.But on migration, taxes, culture, religion, Israel/Palestine or relations with America? That’s where it falls apart.
    Europe is not one nation. Poland, Greece, France, Germany, Ireland, Hungary, Italy and Spain don’t have the same fears, history, geography or interests.For Poland and the Baltics, Russia is the main issue.For Greece and Cyprus, Turkey is.For Ireland,neutralitymatters.ForFrance independence from America matters.For Germany, economy and exports matter.So “one European voice,” yeah it sounds nice, but it can easily become “bigger countries and Brussels decide, everyone else follows.”
    That won’t create unity It will create backlash and even stronger rise in right wing parties.Because people are complicated people don’t like when they are told by stronger countries what to do.
    stronger Europe is good. Common defense, energy security, border control, industry and trade make sense.But please guys let’s not pretend that Europe has one soul on every political and cultural issue.

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