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    „Die Wahrheit ist besser als weiterhin zu verlieren“: Petition fordert DNC-Freigabe der Autopsie der Niederlage im Jahr 2024

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    2. RimboTheRebbiter on

      Ken Martin said he’d release the autopsy and flip flopped. We’ve got plenty of reporting indicating why it happened. If he is unwilling to release the report it can only be taken as a sign that the DNC fully intends to repeat the actions in the report that cost them 2024 rather than take the steps needed to win.

    3. StevenMC19 on

      Is withholding the info because Kamala wants to run again?

      I mean, I can provide a summary for those who don’t need the obvious stated to them:

      1. Trump promised no new wars, ending current wars (edit: „If I was President, the war on Ukraine would end in one day“), a curbing on inflation, a lowering on grocery prices, and the reduction of taxes (whether or not he followed through is irrelevant. He campaigned and won on those statements.)
      2. Kamala ran on a similar border policy to the Republicans, a similar policy of the Gaza genocide to the Republicans, a similar policy of relations to Israel as just about everyone in office, and a message that the direction things are going will not change under her leadership as if Biden never left.

      If you’re looking at these two messages as a fence-sitter or in the purpley-grey area, the fact that Trump is a criminal suddenly doesn’t matter if he’s the only one even mentioning the issues you care about, let alone saying things about them that you agree with.

    4. Distinct_Sun on

      theres other reporting pointing to gaza as the clear issue they lost voters on. turns out people thought letting a fascist nazi state run wild and do genocide was bad.

      if their autopsy said otherwise, they could prove these people wrong and say it was that they didnt hug bush and cheyneys even harder. but we know exactly whats in there. so theyre hiding it. because the DNC plans to keep backing a genocidal apartheid regime and rejecting progressives.

    6. AbleCap5222 on

      We 100% know why. The Democrats cannot serve corporate masters and win consistently. Americans are sick of that and it doesn’t inspire anyone to vote.

      Kamala Harris was a bad candidate that no one liked – who represented more of the same Biden garbage. If there was a real primary, there’s zero chance she was the candidate. Zero.

      Everyone knows the reality. A charismatic and truly progressive Democratic leader that doesn’t serve corporations would win this next election in a landslide if it’s not rigged.

      But trust me, the corporations that own clowns like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer – they will do everything they can to make sure you can’t have that candidate.

    7. writeinfreedom on

      This narrative is so weird.

      The DNC has proven to be so out of step with the voters they barely have any money on hand, and I swear they already did this autopsy and every podcaster and politician had an answer for however this happened.

      It’s 18 months old by now.

      What value is there even left hearing from the organization in part responsible for the loss who hasn’t or refused to release their explanation for it when we have lots of other better independent analysis and everybody has a good idea of what happened.

      Interpretations of this aren’t as valuable as creating an alternative immediately.

    8. SoulLessIke on

      Party autopsies are basically worthless, I’d like people to keep in mind the 2012 RNC autopsy insisted they needed to moderate on immigration to win.

      I do not need to explain to anyone what happened instead, right?

    9. CaptainAwesome06 on

      I’m not sure I trust these guys to be honest with themselves and truly self-reflective.

    10. Raspberries-Are-Evil on

      We know what happened.

      Low turnout (In swing states) + prices of shit.+ constant lies by Trump- all mixed in with the inherent Racism and Misogyny that people in those swing states have JUST enough to let Trump sliver out those wins by less than 1%.

    11. catharticargument on

      The only reason not to release it is pretty simple: it will reveal the democrats should do certain things that would help them win elections but make certain people less money.

    12. Foodspec on

      It’s because it points out what we’ve been saying for some time now…

      If you’re too old; fuck off

      If you want to use office for financial and personal gain; fuck off

      If you continue to hold back the progressive agenda; fuck off

      If you want your donor candidate to run and do whatever possible to crush their chances (Bernie); fuck off

      We’re tired, man. Tired of the same shit day in and day out. We’re tired of breaking our backs for pennies while corporations get massive tax breaks, CEOs get massive bonuses.

      We’re tired of our lives being robbed for the people who barely want to contribute to society and, in fact, feel like they’re entitled to less of what they already give us scraps of

      We want an equal opportunity to live like our grandparents did. We don’t want to continue to live paycheck to paycheck. There’s no reason for it. We’re tired. And now…now we’re getting hungry

    13. Teddycrat_Official on

      Quite honestly this is what democrats should be protesting right now.

      I see a lot of people in these threads saying “We already know what happened” and then following up with their opinions – which is fine but I don’t care as much about what various factions of voters think caused it as opposed to what the official stance of the DNC is. They are in control of the democratic platform, messaging, funding, and candidates, and after the colossal and frankly unforgivable mistake that was the 2024 election **we deserve to know what the plan is to fix it next time** and/or **whether or not we need a full on revolt of current democratic leadership.**

      The fact that they are refusing to share screams that they have not learned their lesson, and that we need to replace them.

    14. Caveman-Ug on

      It’s not too difficult to reverse engineer what they would be trying to hide.

    15. snoopingforpooping on

      I truly believe Biden was only going to serve one term and make the announcement after the midterms. I, like many others, expected the GOP to move on from Trump after losing the general in 2020. Once they saw Trump was going to be the nominee they changed course and figured stick with Biden in 2024.

      Biden should have never got on that debate stage. It was a disaster and why they moved it up several months. Biden and team should have adopted the narrative that the President would never share a stage with an individual who attempted a coup. Once they gave Trump equal footing it was over.

      It was a wild gambit by the Biden team and democrats but they had zero options after the debate and Harris had to step in. I don’t think it was hubris of Biden but rather underestimating the Trump Religion.

      In an alternative history, Biden refuses a debate. Holds onto the blue wall and resigns for health issues mid-2025.

    16. Brysynner on

      Political autopsies are dumb. They are a snapshot in time that do not have the realities of the future.

      The 2012 GOP autopsy said the GOP should be friendlier to illegal immigrants and moderate on social issues.

      A candidate who did the opposite of that won 2 of the 3 next elections. So just treat these with a grain of salt.

    18. JesusWuta40oz on

      This was proof that the Democratic party needs its own „tea-party“ movement event.

    20. ksdanj on

      The only conclusion I can rationally draw is that establishment/AIPAC/corporate Dems don’t mind losing.

    21. Sere81 on

      No autopsy needed. It’s on Joe Biden. If he let there be a primary season it would have been sorted out by voters.

      Is the primary process perfect? No, but we get who we get by the voters.

    22. CoachDT on

      They should do it because they said they should do it.

      I dont think its the magical keys to the kingdom that reading it will be granted the path to victory. And I think whats in there will be fairly mundane and unsurprising. It will make every politician currently in office be put in danger though.

      Creating one of these is loser behavior in the first place, but they promised it so they should.

    23. Vegetable-Error-2068 on

      Let me guess:

      – Right wing Democrats are unacceptable to voters
      – Establishment Democrats being subservient to corporate and oligarchic interests is unacceptable to voters
      – The systemic muzzling of progressives and suppression of the left wing is unacceptable to voters
      – Israel’s complete dominion over U.S. politicians is unacceptable to voters
      – The utter refusal to do anything other than guard the status quo is unacceptable to voters

      The report that says all that?

    24. Scarletyoshi on

      Just dumb dumb dumb not to have released this at the start. There’s nothing in there that could be worse (or more annoying) than what we have now with a Secret Document that can now say whatever anybody wants it to say and resurfaces every few months to remind people that Democrats are Hiding Something. If they had just released it the news cycle would be long over.

    25. dankmcganx on

      It’s because Biden withdrew too late and there was no primary. Harris was forced on everyone. A female POC from California- I voted for her but I’m a left leaning milennial, how many centrist boomers did they think they were going to win over with that move? I don’t know if the DNC intentionally loses elections for the benefit of their donors but it sure as fuck seems like a it.

    26. CalligrapherDizzy201 on

      The truth is simple. They ran an unpopular candidate and expected to win. They were wrong.

    27. misteryuksc on

      Hilarious nearly every comment at the top here starts with “we know exactly why” and then proceeds to provide a different reason than the last 10 people who knew why. Whether we know why or not is irrelevant at this point, by making a big deal on doing an autopsy for the purpose of we can all then understand what went wrong in order to correct and move forward successfully in the future and then backing down, the party leadership has failed us once again. This is further stoking conspiracy theories and internal division.

      You can see it on full display here, the party doesn’t know what way is up so they’re just saying everything that sounds good.

      It was a massive miscalculation to promise a report, which should exist no matter what anyway, and then withdraw. The party honestly hasn’t learned a damn thing, cannot unify, and thus those of us who oppose authoritarianism and fascism lose more ground. There’s no saving this two party system from itself at this point, the parties have drifted so far apart that they will never agree to collectively revise the broken system because to make such revisions requires agreement to an impossible standard in this day and age.

      Maybe someday somebody really smart will come along and figure it out and get everybody on board. I don’t have much hope.

    28. ThirdSunRising on

      If the democrats want to be the champions of transparency they could begin by being transparent

    29. Vanzmelo on

      2024 was an uphill battle at best. Every government who was in charge during COVID and the aftermath got destroyed in the next elections.

      It’s also 2026 and democrats have been sweeping special elections and look poised to do well in the midterms. Who gives a flying fuck about 2024 two years later. It’s such a weird media obsession to paint democrats in a bad light despite the literal fascism that is the current GOP and Trump administration

    30. surf_drunk_monk on

      There’s two parts to this. Harris didn’t have enough support to beat Trump, for various reasons. But also, Trump had a lot more support than anticipated. Why is that? There have been forums asking Trump supporters why. A very common answer is they were sick of woke rhetoric, being told to check their privilege, things like that. As unpopular as this is going to sound, I think Dems need to stop saying those things if they want to win. The public image of Dems is a bunch of whiny „respect my pronouns“ talk. That needs to change for Dems to be successful.

    31. ProfessorOnEdge on

      Having read snippets/leaks of the autopsy report; the answer was simple:

      People being told it was their moral obligation to vote against Trump did not think that applied given that the Biden administration was fully supporting genocide, and Harris refused to break from that.

      The problem is the DNC cares more about AlPAC dollars than they do about winning.

    32. Iamveganbtw1 on

      they won’t release it because they want to keep doing the things that lead to their defeat (support israel and corporations)

    33. Intelligent_Sky_7081 on

      It is *insane* that they lost to a guy rambling about Haitians eating people’s cats and dogs in Ohio. The connections to Epstein were all right there in the open, they hardly even mentioned that during the entire campaign. They let him cry about election interference, yet Dems werent worried about him doing the same damn thing?

      Just incompetence. Id think you couldve put almost anyone up against Trump this time and they would win, somehow the Dems messed that up. Its incredible. Biden screwed us trying to run again when he looked like he might croak at any moment, and then they force Kamala into the role and Trump feasts on her not having won the primary. It was a god damn mess and Im still so pissed about how horribly their campaign was run. Shouldve been an easy victory.

    34. projectx51 on

      1. Unwavering and illogical support of Israel.
      2. Refusal to address healthcare seriously
      3. Refusal to reign in corporate political spending
      4. Refusal to close corporate tax loopholes
      5. Refusal to address economic divisions between the uber rich and the middle-class seriously
      6. Refusal to rein-in stock trading by lawmakers
      7. Stubborn adherence to what the Boomer generation would have deemed progressive, but are now milddle-of-the-road policies
      8. Refusal to push out those of retirement age or beyond that refuse to leave and make way for younger more progressive lawmakers.

      9. Continual side-lining of progressive elements of their own party in favor of middle-of-the-road policies.

    35. FeedbackParticular59 on

      Democrats need to be the OPPOSITE of Trump on as many issues he pushed as possible. No centrism here. Be as far left as possible on as many issues as possible.

    36. drews51 on

      As someone who thinks a doorknob would be a better President than Draft Dodging Donnie and therefore voted for Harris, the Democrats couldn’t have butchered the 2024 election more than they did. Running Biden was bonkers and not giving their base an opportunity to select a candidate was even more ridiculous. The Democratic Party is the reason we’re dealing with Queen Cheeto right now

    37. NCwolf86 on

      I mean the truth is the Democrats straight up lied to the American people regarding Biden for most of his term and then when it became impossible to hide they put forth an invalid candidate with no platform whatsoever, no plans for what she was going to do.  

      And that’s in addition to the fact that she was deeply, deeply unpopular and forced upon the American people essentially without their say and against their will.   

      The Democratic party had and continues to have their heads up their collective asses.  

    38. Truxxis on

      I wonder if the report glazes over the fact Trump ran for reelection for FOUR years!! It took Trump FOUR years of constantly browbeating the country with his BS to barely squeak by a win against someone nobody wanted and had several months to campaign. The report has to have something terrible in it as to why they basically fumbled a slam dunk.

    39. mr_mgs11 on

      They have been losing because they don’t do enough to help the middle class and certainly not the poor. I know a lot of poor motherfuckers that wen Trump out of desperation (and stupidity).

    40. The_Dread_Candiru on

      This is the body that forced Hillary and Harris down our throats; they’re not moved by petitions.

    41. Old_Goat_Cyclist on

      The notion the two gatekeepers to power in our democracy are private entities is simply absurd.

    42. chargoggagog on

      Nah, he’ll be remembered for the legislation he got passed and the good work he did. Nobody gives a shit about this “noise.” Biden led the American economy through the worst of Covid and delivered the best economic recovery the world. He passed the largest piece of climate legislation man has ever seen. And he bowed out when his party urged him to. He was a good man and an excellent president. The rest is just whining of the ignorant uniformed masses. Dems need to work on their messaging and the control of media

    43. OkTransportation3196 on

      🙄 the autopsy is that Americans are stupid and elected a clown over a qualified black woman.

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