This article breaks down the numbers in the Pentagon proposed 2027 budget. Specifically, they are asking for over $53 billion for the Defense Autonomous Warfare Group (DAWG) to build up autonomous drone warfare. To put that in perspective, they only spent around $226 million on unmanned systems during the last cycle. Its an absolutely massive jump that shows a clear shift in military strategy towards robotic systems.
We are looking at a future where AI-driven combat systems and drone swarms will be the main focus rather than traditional troops.Experts are already raising concerns about how this could change global power dynamics and whether the tech is even reliable enough yet.
It looks like the push for uncrewed systems is becoming the new standard. It will be interesting to see if congress actually approves this huge request or if they try to scale it back a bit.
SardonicusNox on
That means that the USA will end pushing artificial systematic poverty due to the lack of need of having a desperate population to recruit from?
AstronomerTime4410 on
Machines won’t refuse unlawful orders, I bet Grok becomes AM
Exact-Literature-395 on
Seems like this shifts the burden from manpower to technology, but who controls that tech?
Broad-Lobster7470 on
No doubt. They have seen first hand how they are getting schooled with the shahed drones. All the money in the world and they can still be overwhelmed With drones.
AllenIll on
I imagine the more systems are automated, the more decisive hacking is to battlefield and conflict outcomes.
If you can turn these systems to target inward, you’ve already infiltrated behind enemy lines without having to use any munitions from your arsenal.
You would effectively be getting your adversary to build your defense forces for you.
Confident_Salt_8108 on
We are watching the shift from human soldiers to machine swarms in real time.
Unique-Coffee5087 on
If your fighters do not have human connections, they can be used to kill Americans without worry.
jargo3 on
The drone war in Ukraine has been going on for 4 years now. They really should have started this earlier, but I guess they needed some first hand expriences from Iran to actually believe that warfare has changed.
jamesl182d on
They make this seem like an innovation, but you just know that they’ll use these things to extort us all – flying drones into nations that they want to control.
u9Nails on
I would like to see high speed, low cost, anti-drone systems. I know it’s not as sexy as an autonomous cruise missile than can land like an airplane if not needed, and be refueled. But it’s the bigger need for bases and regions in combating drone swarms.
dbe14 on
At the same time as removing cyber warfare and anti hacking departments
bevo_expat on
To use against our foreign enemies, right…?
*Anakin stares at Padme*
Right?!
Exodys03 on
The future is terrifying, IMO. The future of warfare is likely swarms of killer drones and robots battling each other while hopefully trying to prevent the other side from mass murdering civilians as well.
Countries around the world will have to massively expand their military budgets to prevent being easily destroyed at will by those that have the technological advantage. Waging war will become much easier while preventing it and protecting from it becomes far more difficult and more expensive. Healthcare? Food for everyone? Roads and bridges? Sorry. No money available for stuff like that. Hopefully, the aliens have a solution.
Firecracker048 on
I mean, yeah. Does this surprise anyone?
Ukraine is doing it right now in Real-time. China is heavily investing into autonomous drone warfare. Why wouldn’t the US? Or is it only bad when the US does it?
hailwyatt on
Great. Military murder bots.
Remember when Musk would just turn off Starlink. Sometimes because he wanted to make a point, sometimes it was „an accident“. Either way we’ve already seen what it looks like when a government’s military relies so heavily on a wealthy egomaniacs whims.
This should be chilling everyone to the bone.
Mooseinadesert on
Some of those weapons will be used on American citizens. They’ll be using things like drones (ground or air) to break up „illegal protests“. Things like „less than lethal“ weapons cops currently use and also probably sonic weapons.
If the government continues on our fascist path things are going to get extremely bad. AI will decide if you live or die too, as Trump admin is currently working on. Even less accountability than today.
J1mj0hns0n on
As is the logical next step, and was always guaranteed to happen, consult the poem of depression:
We do not know what the tools of world war 3 will be fought with, but we know world war 4 will be sticks and stones.
ALBUNDY59 on
With that one budget item, Skynet comes into existence.
They are bypassing augmented body armor.
When AI starts controlling the entire battlefield humanity has lost.
Hyperion1144 on
Based on what’s happening in Ukraine, this was already completely inevitable.
rgbhdmi on
It’s a terrible shame we are not smart enough to wage peace at the level we wage war. It takes a steady, committed, and well supported effort to do so, and we are running out of time now.
SoraUsagi on
This will just further detach us from war. Sure, your average citizen is already pretty detached (until gas prices go up). Sure. On the one hand I don’t want soldiers dying. On the other, sometimes the human toll is the check.
RedLanternScythe on
Would you like to play a nice game of thermonuclear war?
dervu on
Can’t wait till those robots turn against their own side.
Vuronov on
No one learned anything from the Terminator movies…
Life-Celebration-747 on
In the 80’s, when the Terminator movie came out, i had a dark feeling that this would come to fruition.
ingeba on
Isn’t warfare and weapons the only way „AI“ can become economically viable?
greywar777 on
Know what makes drones awesome for ukraine? Their low price.
We are failing in lesson 1 of drone warfare.
evilgreenman on
It’s like these guys watched the most dystopian of movies and say, yep! That’s what we want!
BasementDwellerDave on
As if AI wasn’t already hogging up valuable resources
vroart on
A lot of these characters live on super yachts that are also unmanned. But even then there are stories of billionaires getting injured, going from island to island for help.
ACAB007 on
It’s the only way the elite pedophiles are going to get away with it.
We should put a stop to it right now.
NefariousBlue on
It’s only a matter of time before the first video game gives players control of real weaponized robots in an actual armed conflict.
Legitimate_Cow784 on
Shorten the chain of command for wannabe dictators.
Can’t wait until the system malfunctions or is hacked with all human safety features removed.
whooo_me on
Lots of deaths. Zero accountability. No whistle-blowers.
A dictator’s dream.
Stavvystav on
Great, if that goes through they can just shove the blame to AI when they tell it to sweep a school or something. „We never told it to do that, that’s horrible“
JohnGillnitz on
These assholes saw The Terminator and thought it was a great idea. It wasn’t a warning to them. It was a commercial.
Citizen-Kang on
For all the people cheering this on, it’s going to be a real gut-check when, not if, this is turned on average citizens protesting over rights and food.
JoseLunaArts on
Imagine autonomous ED-209. „You have 20 seconds to comply“.
Fabulous_Soup_521 on
And the future is even more horrifying. Area denial autonomous weapons the size and shape of a dragonfly released in swarms that just sit and wait for something to move in its visual range. Designed to maim, not to kill.
Billgrip on
The future of warfare is robots fighting robots at all of our expense
washheightsboy3 on
If you’re concerned that soldiers might refuse legal orders, this is a great solution. Fewer humans at risk and fewer soldiers to deal with.
agitatedprisoner on
If the pentagon is smart they’ll pick combat models with civilian use potential because that way the military would be able to rationalize keeping a bigger total force (active + reserves doing civilian jobs). Then when the next gen comes out the active can move to reserve and suddenly investing in the military can be other than a drain on the overall economy.
I wonder what sorts of jobs humanoid military robots could do?
BigPlunk on
Autonomous, enshrined authoritarianism is clearly the end goal and must be resisted at all costs.
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This article breaks down the numbers in the Pentagon proposed 2027 budget. Specifically, they are asking for over $53 billion for the Defense Autonomous Warfare Group (DAWG) to build up autonomous drone warfare. To put that in perspective, they only spent around $226 million on unmanned systems during the last cycle. Its an absolutely massive jump that shows a clear shift in military strategy towards robotic systems.
We are looking at a future where AI-driven combat systems and drone swarms will be the main focus rather than traditional troops.Experts are already raising concerns about how this could change global power dynamics and whether the tech is even reliable enough yet.
It looks like the push for uncrewed systems is becoming the new standard. It will be interesting to see if congress actually approves this huge request or if they try to scale it back a bit.
That means that the USA will end pushing artificial systematic poverty due to the lack of need of having a desperate population to recruit from?
Machines won’t refuse unlawful orders, I bet Grok becomes AM
Seems like this shifts the burden from manpower to technology, but who controls that tech?
No doubt. They have seen first hand how they are getting schooled with the shahed drones. All the money in the world and they can still be overwhelmed With drones.
I imagine the more systems are automated, the more decisive hacking is to battlefield and conflict outcomes.
If you can turn these systems to target inward, you’ve already infiltrated behind enemy lines without having to use any munitions from your arsenal.
You would effectively be getting your adversary to build your defense forces for you.
We are watching the shift from human soldiers to machine swarms in real time.
If your fighters do not have human connections, they can be used to kill Americans without worry.
The drone war in Ukraine has been going on for 4 years now. They really should have started this earlier, but I guess they needed some first hand expriences from Iran to actually believe that warfare has changed.
They make this seem like an innovation, but you just know that they’ll use these things to extort us all – flying drones into nations that they want to control.
I would like to see high speed, low cost, anti-drone systems. I know it’s not as sexy as an autonomous cruise missile than can land like an airplane if not needed, and be refueled. But it’s the bigger need for bases and regions in combating drone swarms.
At the same time as removing cyber warfare and anti hacking departments
To use against our foreign enemies, right…?
*Anakin stares at Padme*
Right?!
The future is terrifying, IMO. The future of warfare is likely swarms of killer drones and robots battling each other while hopefully trying to prevent the other side from mass murdering civilians as well.
Countries around the world will have to massively expand their military budgets to prevent being easily destroyed at will by those that have the technological advantage. Waging war will become much easier while preventing it and protecting from it becomes far more difficult and more expensive. Healthcare? Food for everyone? Roads and bridges? Sorry. No money available for stuff like that. Hopefully, the aliens have a solution.
I mean, yeah. Does this surprise anyone?
Ukraine is doing it right now in Real-time. China is heavily investing into autonomous drone warfare. Why wouldn’t the US? Or is it only bad when the US does it?
Great. Military murder bots.
Remember when Musk would just turn off Starlink. Sometimes because he wanted to make a point, sometimes it was „an accident“. Either way we’ve already seen what it looks like when a government’s military relies so heavily on a wealthy egomaniacs whims.
This should be chilling everyone to the bone.
Some of those weapons will be used on American citizens. They’ll be using things like drones (ground or air) to break up „illegal protests“. Things like „less than lethal“ weapons cops currently use and also probably sonic weapons.
If the government continues on our fascist path things are going to get extremely bad. AI will decide if you live or die too, as Trump admin is currently working on. Even less accountability than today.
As is the logical next step, and was always guaranteed to happen, consult the poem of depression:
We do not know what the tools of world war 3 will be fought with, but we know world war 4 will be sticks and stones.
With that one budget item, Skynet comes into existence.
They are bypassing augmented body armor.
When AI starts controlling the entire battlefield humanity has lost.
Based on what’s happening in Ukraine, this was already completely inevitable.
It’s a terrible shame we are not smart enough to wage peace at the level we wage war. It takes a steady, committed, and well supported effort to do so, and we are running out of time now.
This will just further detach us from war. Sure, your average citizen is already pretty detached (until gas prices go up). Sure. On the one hand I don’t want soldiers dying. On the other, sometimes the human toll is the check.
Would you like to play a nice game of thermonuclear war?
Can’t wait till those robots turn against their own side.
No one learned anything from the Terminator movies…
In the 80’s, when the Terminator movie came out, i had a dark feeling that this would come to fruition.
Isn’t warfare and weapons the only way „AI“ can become economically viable?
Know what makes drones awesome for ukraine? Their low price.
We are failing in lesson 1 of drone warfare.
It’s like these guys watched the most dystopian of movies and say, yep! That’s what we want!
As if AI wasn’t already hogging up valuable resources
A lot of these characters live on super yachts that are also unmanned. But even then there are stories of billionaires getting injured, going from island to island for help.
It’s the only way the elite pedophiles are going to get away with it.
We should put a stop to it right now.
It’s only a matter of time before the first video game gives players control of real weaponized robots in an actual armed conflict.
Shorten the chain of command for wannabe dictators.
Can’t wait until the system malfunctions or is hacked with all human safety features removed.
Lots of deaths. Zero accountability. No whistle-blowers.
A dictator’s dream.
Great, if that goes through they can just shove the blame to AI when they tell it to sweep a school or something. „We never told it to do that, that’s horrible“
These assholes saw The Terminator and thought it was a great idea. It wasn’t a warning to them. It was a commercial.
For all the people cheering this on, it’s going to be a real gut-check when, not if, this is turned on average citizens protesting over rights and food.
Imagine autonomous ED-209. „You have 20 seconds to comply“.
And the future is even more horrifying. Area denial autonomous weapons the size and shape of a dragonfly released in swarms that just sit and wait for something to move in its visual range. Designed to maim, not to kill.
The future of warfare is robots fighting robots at all of our expense
If you’re concerned that soldiers might refuse legal orders, this is a great solution. Fewer humans at risk and fewer soldiers to deal with.
If the pentagon is smart they’ll pick combat models with civilian use potential because that way the military would be able to rationalize keeping a bigger total force (active + reserves doing civilian jobs). Then when the next gen comes out the active can move to reserve and suddenly investing in the military can be other than a drain on the overall economy.
I wonder what sorts of jobs humanoid military robots could do?
Autonomous, enshrined authoritarianism is clearly the end goal and must be resisted at all costs.