Which country occupies the sovereign territory of an EU country, pray tell us please?
Nagash24 on
EU chief groups country led by a dictator among other countries led by a dictator. More news at 11
Nerioner on
I mean… Turkey hold EU candidate status like it means something… it does not.
And after stating the intention of joining EU decades ago, all what Turkey did was distance itself from Europe and constantly pick incompatible values through Erdogan and what not.
I know Turkey is important regional player but this piece makes it seem like it’s second US, and that without turkey there are issues beyond comprehension for EU future…
Ursula just expressed lack of patience we all have for Turkey. Stop pretending you want to be European or truly become European nation. Nothing wrong in picking your own way but then just don’t pretend to care about EU.
LiefLayer on
She is right.
Turkey was a EU candidate because they were a democracy, but now they are not and they are friends with putin.
I don’t believe for a moment they are allies even in NATO, like I don’t believe US are allies.
No-Confidence-9191 on
We have reached a point where it draws criticism when we label a nation which occupies EU territory a threat. That’s so pathetic.
ShiroJPmasta on
100% rightfully.
Switchblade2000 on
Wir dürfen Europa nicht Leyen überlassen.
Lazy_Crow_6872 on
Israel is licking its lips after these statements.
jefe_hook on
How about US? You know the one that threatened to invade Greenland?
Streptomicin on
I will never understand why is China considered a threat!
Dietmeister on
She is right that turkey is at risk of becoming a threat. But I don’t know if we’re helped by expressing that in public
sht-magnet on
This is utterly disrespectful to put Turkey, a EU candidate, a NATO member, a European ally into the basket with Russia and China.
Turkey literally does most of the air patrols for Romania and Baltics. Stopped millions of Syrian refugees from going to the EU. Helping Ukraine against the war with Russia.
Whichever lobby is making her deliver this speech, must be very powerful.
Lestat_de_Sade on
I fear america more than russia or china to be fair.
madler437 on
That is an insane thing for the EU chief to say publicly
bestintheclass on
incredible news for russia
Stannis44 on
israel doing his part on that im sure, now they want to destory turkiye after iran.
Mantonization on
Given how Netanyahu’s government has recently started talking talking about going after them next, I can’t help but feel that this statement is the EU preemptively throwing Turkey under the bus so they can avoid criticising Israel
MBouh on
I read this as „please donald let us be your slave again“…
medievalvelocipede on
“We must succeed in completing the European continent so that it does not fall under Russian, Turkish, or Chinese influence,” von der Leyen stated. “The old model—relying on cheap Russian energy, low-cost Chinese labor, and unconditional American security—is dead. We must think bigger, move faster, and act more independently.”
There’s not much of an argument to make against this statement.
Lyelinn on
time to probe some people in EU for being bought by Israel/US
sweetcinnamonpunch on
Absolutely insane take!
Sneaky_Squirreel on
I think it’s pretty obvious that Turkey doesn’t care about becoming the member of the EU given how Erdogan has been changing the country more and more into basically almost dictatorship and erasing any traces of rule of law, and it doesn’t look like it will change anytime soon seeing how he still wins elections. Turkeys current trend is neo-ottom movement with Erdogan promoting Turkey as the defender of Islam, funding and supporting many organizations/governments in Africa and Asia, many of which are let’s say, not the best. When it comes to EU, turkey is stirring shit up in western balkans, especially among Muslim Bosniaks, makes overlapping claims of territorial waters with Greece/Cyprus, and basically occupies Cyprus which not a single country on earth recognizes, besides Turkey itself. Northern Cyprus has also became a hot spot for all the criminal scum from Europe and gambling, because good luck enforcing anything there. Turkeys been systematically sending Turks to the northern Cyprus over the decades to they point where most of Turks in northern cyprus are not even native cypriots, but settlers from mainland Turkey and their kids. Basically trying to win over Cyprus issue by colonizing the island increasing the number of turks as much as possible so whenever unification happens, Turks would be the majority on the island. But after all, I don’t think EU is in position to get into direct conflict with Turkey, especially with Russia and US right now, so it’s a really bad move to call out turkey like that. As of now, turkeys control of the black Sea and blocking anything from the middle east is too useful to give up on.
Cabbage_Vendor on
Erdogan’s Turkey is absolutely a threat to Europe. A democratic, free Turkey is not.
KrakenInDaShmaken on
For the past decades EU officials have been asleep when it came to the reality of what Turkey is and always has been. It is refreshing to now see them finally realizing that they, alongside Russia, are Europe’s primary threats.
lscjohnny on
Israel asset of course
kaesura on
I don’t think the Secretary of General of NATO who is currently in Ankara endorses this sentiment
In a time where EU is moving closer to Turkey military in response to Russian aggression and an eratic America , she chooses to alienate NATO’s second largest military
watch-nerd on
Sure, VDL.
Just piss off the biggest army on NATO’s eastern flank.
Maeglin75 on
I won’t defend vdL. She is a terrible person and it was a diplomatic blunder to publicly state something like that.
Still, while I personally wish for good and close relations and generally like the country and the people of Türkiye, I don’t trust Erdogan at all. I think he could easily side with Russia or other enemies of Europe if he thinks it will further his power.
Erdogans government doesn’t share the fundamental political beliefs of the European Union. He is an authoritarian with imperialistic ambitions and is not so dissimilar to Putin.
For Türkiye to become a reliable ally or even a member of the EU, Erdogan has to go and the country would have a long way of democratic reforms to do. And they have to overcome some nationalistic believes and distortion of history that seems to be common in the country today.
As a German I say that acknowledgement of the own past is the first step to become a truly democratic country that values rule of law and human rights.
Yanasip on
So the part about Turkey is weird. But EU thinks of China as a threat to be countered, then many diplomats go there to form great diplomatic relations and a couple weeks after once again they say that China is a threat.
lost_in_existence69 on
And the same people came to Türkiye for arms and diplomatic help. I mean… Yeah it’s a great idea to offend one of your key partners in the region, which could also help with a potential Russian threat. Gj
OkKnowledge2064 on
Incredibly stupid honestly. Turkey isnt an ally but a valuable partner and for now a lot of our interests do align. This is causing friction without reasons
Turkey is very important in containing especially Russia in the middle east and caucasus and incredibly important for our energy security in the future. Its so childish to publish something like they did
lledaso on
This seems like a pretty dishonest title to me. She (according to the little information I found) said that if the EU decides to not take the Balkan countries and Ukraine as members they may fall under the influence of Russia/Turkey/China. That’s pretty far from „threats to be countered“, though the articles are all missing context and the question. It also wasn’t a speech as the article says, it was an interview with questions from readers. The full interview is going online shortly.
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Which country occupies the sovereign territory of an EU country, pray tell us please?
EU chief groups country led by a dictator among other countries led by a dictator. More news at 11
I mean… Turkey hold EU candidate status like it means something… it does not.
And after stating the intention of joining EU decades ago, all what Turkey did was distance itself from Europe and constantly pick incompatible values through Erdogan and what not.
I know Turkey is important regional player but this piece makes it seem like it’s second US, and that without turkey there are issues beyond comprehension for EU future…
Ursula just expressed lack of patience we all have for Turkey. Stop pretending you want to be European or truly become European nation. Nothing wrong in picking your own way but then just don’t pretend to care about EU.
She is right.
Turkey was a EU candidate because they were a democracy, but now they are not and they are friends with putin.
I don’t believe for a moment they are allies even in NATO, like I don’t believe US are allies.
We have reached a point where it draws criticism when we label a nation which occupies EU territory a threat. That’s so pathetic.
100% rightfully.
Wir dürfen Europa nicht Leyen überlassen.
Israel is licking its lips after these statements.
How about US? You know the one that threatened to invade Greenland?
I will never understand why is China considered a threat!
She is right that turkey is at risk of becoming a threat. But I don’t know if we’re helped by expressing that in public
This is utterly disrespectful to put Turkey, a EU candidate, a NATO member, a European ally into the basket with Russia and China.
Turkey literally does most of the air patrols for Romania and Baltics. Stopped millions of Syrian refugees from going to the EU. Helping Ukraine against the war with Russia.
Whichever lobby is making her deliver this speech, must be very powerful.
I fear america more than russia or china to be fair.
That is an insane thing for the EU chief to say publicly
incredible news for russia
israel doing his part on that im sure, now they want to destory turkiye after iran.
Given how Netanyahu’s government has recently started talking talking about going after them next, I can’t help but feel that this statement is the EU preemptively throwing Turkey under the bus so they can avoid criticising Israel
I read this as „please donald let us be your slave again“…
“We must succeed in completing the European continent so that it does not fall under Russian, Turkish, or Chinese influence,” von der Leyen stated. “The old model—relying on cheap Russian energy, low-cost Chinese labor, and unconditional American security—is dead. We must think bigger, move faster, and act more independently.”
There’s not much of an argument to make against this statement.
time to probe some people in EU for being bought by Israel/US
Absolutely insane take!
I think it’s pretty obvious that Turkey doesn’t care about becoming the member of the EU given how Erdogan has been changing the country more and more into basically almost dictatorship and erasing any traces of rule of law, and it doesn’t look like it will change anytime soon seeing how he still wins elections. Turkeys current trend is neo-ottom movement with Erdogan promoting Turkey as the defender of Islam, funding and supporting many organizations/governments in Africa and Asia, many of which are let’s say, not the best. When it comes to EU, turkey is stirring shit up in western balkans, especially among Muslim Bosniaks, makes overlapping claims of territorial waters with Greece/Cyprus, and basically occupies Cyprus which not a single country on earth recognizes, besides Turkey itself. Northern Cyprus has also became a hot spot for all the criminal scum from Europe and gambling, because good luck enforcing anything there. Turkeys been systematically sending Turks to the northern Cyprus over the decades to they point where most of Turks in northern cyprus are not even native cypriots, but settlers from mainland Turkey and their kids. Basically trying to win over Cyprus issue by colonizing the island increasing the number of turks as much as possible so whenever unification happens, Turks would be the majority on the island. But after all, I don’t think EU is in position to get into direct conflict with Turkey, especially with Russia and US right now, so it’s a really bad move to call out turkey like that. As of now, turkeys control of the black Sea and blocking anything from the middle east is too useful to give up on.
Erdogan’s Turkey is absolutely a threat to Europe. A democratic, free Turkey is not.
For the past decades EU officials have been asleep when it came to the reality of what Turkey is and always has been. It is refreshing to now see them finally realizing that they, alongside Russia, are Europe’s primary threats.
Israel asset of course
I don’t think the Secretary of General of NATO who is currently in Ankara endorses this sentiment
In a time where EU is moving closer to Turkey military in response to Russian aggression and an eratic America , she chooses to alienate NATO’s second largest military
Sure, VDL.
Just piss off the biggest army on NATO’s eastern flank.
I won’t defend vdL. She is a terrible person and it was a diplomatic blunder to publicly state something like that.
Still, while I personally wish for good and close relations and generally like the country and the people of Türkiye, I don’t trust Erdogan at all. I think he could easily side with Russia or other enemies of Europe if he thinks it will further his power.
Erdogans government doesn’t share the fundamental political beliefs of the European Union. He is an authoritarian with imperialistic ambitions and is not so dissimilar to Putin.
For Türkiye to become a reliable ally or even a member of the EU, Erdogan has to go and the country would have a long way of democratic reforms to do. And they have to overcome some nationalistic believes and distortion of history that seems to be common in the country today.
As a German I say that acknowledgement of the own past is the first step to become a truly democratic country that values rule of law and human rights.
So the part about Turkey is weird. But EU thinks of China as a threat to be countered, then many diplomats go there to form great diplomatic relations and a couple weeks after once again they say that China is a threat.
And the same people came to Türkiye for arms and diplomatic help. I mean… Yeah it’s a great idea to offend one of your key partners in the region, which could also help with a potential Russian threat. Gj
Incredibly stupid honestly. Turkey isnt an ally but a valuable partner and for now a lot of our interests do align. This is causing friction without reasons
Turkey is very important in containing especially Russia in the middle east and caucasus and incredibly important for our energy security in the future. Its so childish to publish something like they did
This seems like a pretty dishonest title to me. She (according to the little information I found) said that if the EU decides to not take the Balkan countries and Ukraine as members they may fall under the influence of Russia/Turkey/China. That’s pretty far from „threats to be countered“, though the articles are all missing context and the question. It also wasn’t a speech as the article says, it was an interview with questions from readers. The full interview is going online shortly.
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