„There is no public evidence that Trump attempted to initiate a nuclear strike or access nuclear launch authority. Newsweek has reached out to the White House and the Pentagon for comment outside normal working hours.“
„Johnson used the phrase “nuclear codes” colloquially and did not describe how U.S. nuclear command-and-control procedures function. Under established protocol, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff does not have unilateral authority to block a presidential nuclear order.“
DootyMcCool2000 on
This sounds dubious. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Trump, but I think I can confidently say that this is highly exaggerated if not a fabrication.
Aggressive_Pie_4585 on
Before people start panicking, the source of these claims is a guy basically saying „trust me bro“. No corroboration from anyone else, no records of the incident, not even any clarification on what „use nuclear codes“ means. By all accounts, it’s just complete hearsay.
baylaust on
Dude just went on Fox News and said „Trump tried to use the nuclear codes, according to a report.“ Didn’t cite the report, didn’t name the source, didn’t even hint where this source came from other than a vague „report.“
With Trump, I’m used to assuming the worst, because the worst is usually pretty accurate. But when it comes to something as big as „He tried to go nuclear,“ gonna need something a bit more substantive than „I heard.“
PicoRascar on
Considering he suggested nuking hurricanes, this basically tracks.
def_indiff on
> The claim originates from comments made by former CIA officer Larry Johnson during an appearance on Judging Freedom, a podcast and YouTube talk show hosted by former Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano. Johnson did not provide evidence, did not identify any sources for his account and did not clarify what he meant by “nuclear codes.” Newsweek has found no independent corroboration for the claim.
> Johnson did not name his source, explain how the information was obtained, or provide any details about what actions Trump was alleged to have taken. He did not clarify whether he was referring to a nuclear strike, a briefing, or any formal command process.
I put nothing past Trump, but that’s pretty weak sourcing.
IllustriousRange226 on
Thankful that he’s old and sundowning so he probably forgets the codes when he tries to use them then gives up and watches TV and McDonald’s.
LangyMD on
Even if the one dude who claimed this is correct, it could have just been Trump asking about a nuclear option to end the Iran war and being told it was a bad idea. We already know he asked about the nuclear option when dealing with a hurricane; doing so at an actual war seems within Trump’s character, especially when he was publicly threatening genocide at the same time.
And even that is trusting a single report from a person who wasn’t there and can’t have first hand knowledge of the events.
Novel_Quote8017 on
As if. There is no one truly standing between him and the nukes, just like there was no one stopping him from starting the war with Iran.
AnonAmbientLight on
Jesus.
Look, you folks need to pester your Republican representatives in whatever way you can.
Call. Email. Protest.
Don’t just post on Reddit and dust your hands for a job well done.
I email my rep multiple times a week. Sometimes I get lazy and use ChatGPT but most of the time I just straight yell at them, AS IS MY RIGHT.
Yall should do the same. They don’t get to sit comfortably while all this is going down.
schu4KSU on
My guess is he asked to see “the menu” for Iran.
ckglle3lle on
The sourcing on this is thin and it likely isn’t true that Trump actually tried to do this. But afaik, the reporting about there being a major argument recently *has* been corroborated and that’s worrying on its own
fractalcoholic on
He lost the codes back at Mar a Largo
mike0sd on
He thought the codes were a 13 year old girl, so he couldn’t stop himself from trying to touch
hifumiyo1 on
Do you mean that he “tried to order a strike”? Or just wanted to play with the code cards?
Thirdnipple79 on
While there isn’t enough info about this, the reality is that he was threatening genocide. This isn’t hearsay or rumour. Threats to wipe out a civilization. Anybody else threatening civilians would be in jail. If someone threatened to shoot up a neighbourhood you wouldn’t think that guy should have a gun. This man threatened people with genocide – he should not have control over any weapons especially nuclear. You would think someone would get impeached for this, but Americans seem to be fine with it and will act surprised if he were to launch a nuke.
PSPs0 on
Didn’t he ask to nuke a hurricane in his first term?
StressSevere1189 on
One of the biggest debates in the years to come is not that the United States president was insane and had dementia. It would be why the cowards of the Republican party did not remove him from power.
Sabiancym on
The fact that no one would be surprised if he did this is crazy.
TinhatTemplar on
He has to go. The fact that I’m ready to believe the word of a man that is out of government for over 30 years speaks to the psychological terror we’ve all been under while this moron has been steering us towards the cliffs.
philhilarious on
The bots are skeptical, so this seems almost certainly true.
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OkCantaloupe2082 on
The scary thing is that, whether it happened or not, it’s totally believable.
play_images on
So there isn’t evidence….. but it would fall in line to what we heard about Trump yelling at someone that resulted in him being locked out of a private meeting
There is a non-zero chance he believes this could all be over if he just nukes Iran, consequences be damned.
Additional_Rich_5249 on
What?
binocular_gems on
In a different era, this headline would be written to elucidate, not to make things less clear.
What the headline should say is, „Former CIA Officer Makes Unverified Claim that Trump Tried to ‚Use Nuclear Codes‘ in Iran Ceasefire Negotiations“
Instead, we have Newsweek’s headline, which will inevitably be made even less coherent by the Daily Beast, and all of them will be posted on reddit and upvoted.
PretendThisIsUnique on
From the article:
North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis told Newsweek. „I just don’t. I can’t imagine. You know the president, I just can’t imagine that that was ever a serious consideration.”
I know that Republicans love playing dumb but what a stupid way to try to minimize the claims. Regardless of if this happened or not I think that most Americans at this point would completely believe and perhaps even expect this to have happened.
maikelg on
Remember, if a headline of an article is a yes or no question, the answer is always no because otherwise that would just be the headline.
AwesomeDakka00 on
and yet this insult to humanity claimed a woman would be too emotionally unstable to run a country.
ScoopTheOranges on
The day he dies will be the day all of this heinous shit comes out, they’ll all blame each other too as he goes under the bus.
susanrez on
Stage 6 dementia and it only gets worse from here.
guice666 on
People just need to stop trying to stop him. Just f’ing let him. Let that POS show is true colors.
America wanted him in office in full force – let them take the world down with him.
I have honestly just given up on our government being able to function and keep our checks and balances. The Republican party is full of spineless representatives. The Judicial system is full of judges bending the knee to their emperor. And the Epstein class is still pull strings. What they don’t realize is Orange Face does not like his strings being pulled… let him pull the triggers, and burn it all down. The Epstein class has no idea the monster they’ve unleashed – now they are doing everything contain it without causing WWIII.
tardigrades_snuggle on
No country will ever trust us again. What have we done? Damn the dumbest among us are bringing the rest of us down. We really need to defund the war machine and fund education.
SubstantialQuote70 on
I think this is just Trumps attempt to get us comfortable talking about using nukes and see how well it goes over
Basahn on
Needs to be put down like an old incontinent dog that shits everywhere. Because he does.
carterartist on
There is no evidence that in a closed to secret meeting where Trump’s people don’t dare leak…
That’s the problem.
What evidence would there be?!
And we know Trump and his administration lie. He is a literal felon for committing fraud.
captaincanada84 on
Trump was going to nuke Iran. The US is a rogue nation with nuclear weapons controlled by a deranged psychopath dementia patient
Kamamura_CZ on
I believe he did try to use them, but he is luckily too stupid to understand how. Perhaps he was shouting them out of the window, who knows.
StandardNerd92 on
I would hope a moral secret service member would step in and stop an unjustified use of the nuclear codes regardless of the legality. WW3 just ain’t worth it.
No-Tomatillo3698 on
He wanted to nuke North Korea in his first term only to have generals deny him. So all of this is no surprise, the man is an idiot.
yelahneb on
I’ve always held out this naive hope that „the suitcase“ is and has always been empty, except for a note inside that says „If You’re Reading This, You Failed“
Gooser3000 on
He asked to nuke iran in his first term…
Weary-Cheetah-3415 on
I’m beyond tired of hearing and seeing his face every. Single. Day. I wake up and it’s instantly „Did you hear/see what Trump said/posted?“ It’s been ten years of constant daily assault and I’m not even an American.
I cannot wait for the Big, Beautiful obituary.
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„There is no public evidence that Trump attempted to initiate a nuclear strike or access nuclear launch authority. Newsweek has reached out to the White House and the Pentagon for comment outside normal working hours.“
„Johnson used the phrase “nuclear codes” colloquially and did not describe how U.S. nuclear command-and-control procedures function. Under established protocol, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff does not have unilateral authority to block a presidential nuclear order.“
This sounds dubious. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Trump, but I think I can confidently say that this is highly exaggerated if not a fabrication.
Before people start panicking, the source of these claims is a guy basically saying „trust me bro“. No corroboration from anyone else, no records of the incident, not even any clarification on what „use nuclear codes“ means. By all accounts, it’s just complete hearsay.
Dude just went on Fox News and said „Trump tried to use the nuclear codes, according to a report.“ Didn’t cite the report, didn’t name the source, didn’t even hint where this source came from other than a vague „report.“
With Trump, I’m used to assuming the worst, because the worst is usually pretty accurate. But when it comes to something as big as „He tried to go nuclear,“ gonna need something a bit more substantive than „I heard.“
Considering he suggested nuking hurricanes, this basically tracks.
> The claim originates from comments made by former CIA officer Larry Johnson during an appearance on Judging Freedom, a podcast and YouTube talk show hosted by former Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano. Johnson did not provide evidence, did not identify any sources for his account and did not clarify what he meant by “nuclear codes.” Newsweek has found no independent corroboration for the claim.
> Johnson did not name his source, explain how the information was obtained, or provide any details about what actions Trump was alleged to have taken. He did not clarify whether he was referring to a nuclear strike, a briefing, or any formal command process.
I put nothing past Trump, but that’s pretty weak sourcing.
Thankful that he’s old and sundowning so he probably forgets the codes when he tries to use them then gives up and watches TV and McDonald’s.
Even if the one dude who claimed this is correct, it could have just been Trump asking about a nuclear option to end the Iran war and being told it was a bad idea. We already know he asked about the nuclear option when dealing with a hurricane; doing so at an actual war seems within Trump’s character, especially when he was publicly threatening genocide at the same time.
And even that is trusting a single report from a person who wasn’t there and can’t have first hand knowledge of the events.
As if. There is no one truly standing between him and the nukes, just like there was no one stopping him from starting the war with Iran.
Jesus.
Look, you folks need to pester your Republican representatives in whatever way you can.
Call. Email. Protest.
Don’t just post on Reddit and dust your hands for a job well done.
I email my rep multiple times a week. Sometimes I get lazy and use ChatGPT but most of the time I just straight yell at them, AS IS MY RIGHT.
Yall should do the same. They don’t get to sit comfortably while all this is going down.
My guess is he asked to see “the menu” for Iran.
The sourcing on this is thin and it likely isn’t true that Trump actually tried to do this. But afaik, the reporting about there being a major argument recently *has* been corroborated and that’s worrying on its own
He lost the codes back at Mar a Largo
He thought the codes were a 13 year old girl, so he couldn’t stop himself from trying to touch
Do you mean that he “tried to order a strike”? Or just wanted to play with the code cards?
While there isn’t enough info about this, the reality is that he was threatening genocide. This isn’t hearsay or rumour. Threats to wipe out a civilization. Anybody else threatening civilians would be in jail. If someone threatened to shoot up a neighbourhood you wouldn’t think that guy should have a gun. This man threatened people with genocide – he should not have control over any weapons especially nuclear. You would think someone would get impeached for this, but Americans seem to be fine with it and will act surprised if he were to launch a nuke.
Didn’t he ask to nuke a hurricane in his first term?
One of the biggest debates in the years to come is not that the United States president was insane and had dementia. It would be why the cowards of the Republican party did not remove him from power.
The fact that no one would be surprised if he did this is crazy.
He has to go. The fact that I’m ready to believe the word of a man that is out of government for over 30 years speaks to the psychological terror we’ve all been under while this moron has been steering us towards the cliffs.
The bots are skeptical, so this seems almost certainly true.
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The scary thing is that, whether it happened or not, it’s totally believable.
So there isn’t evidence….. but it would fall in line to what we heard about Trump yelling at someone that resulted in him being locked out of a private meeting
There is a non-zero chance he believes this could all be over if he just nukes Iran, consequences be damned.
What?
In a different era, this headline would be written to elucidate, not to make things less clear.
What the headline should say is, „Former CIA Officer Makes Unverified Claim that Trump Tried to ‚Use Nuclear Codes‘ in Iran Ceasefire Negotiations“
Instead, we have Newsweek’s headline, which will inevitably be made even less coherent by the Daily Beast, and all of them will be posted on reddit and upvoted.
From the article:
North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis told Newsweek. „I just don’t. I can’t imagine. You know the president, I just can’t imagine that that was ever a serious consideration.”
I know that Republicans love playing dumb but what a stupid way to try to minimize the claims. Regardless of if this happened or not I think that most Americans at this point would completely believe and perhaps even expect this to have happened.
Remember, if a headline of an article is a yes or no question, the answer is always no because otherwise that would just be the headline.
and yet this insult to humanity claimed a woman would be too emotionally unstable to run a country.
The day he dies will be the day all of this heinous shit comes out, they’ll all blame each other too as he goes under the bus.
Stage 6 dementia and it only gets worse from here.
People just need to stop trying to stop him. Just f’ing let him. Let that POS show is true colors.
America wanted him in office in full force – let them take the world down with him.
I have honestly just given up on our government being able to function and keep our checks and balances. The Republican party is full of spineless representatives. The Judicial system is full of judges bending the knee to their emperor. And the Epstein class is still pull strings. What they don’t realize is Orange Face does not like his strings being pulled… let him pull the triggers, and burn it all down. The Epstein class has no idea the monster they’ve unleashed – now they are doing everything contain it without causing WWIII.
No country will ever trust us again. What have we done? Damn the dumbest among us are bringing the rest of us down. We really need to defund the war machine and fund education.
I think this is just Trumps attempt to get us comfortable talking about using nukes and see how well it goes over
Needs to be put down like an old incontinent dog that shits everywhere. Because he does.
There is no evidence that in a closed to secret meeting where Trump’s people don’t dare leak…
That’s the problem.
What evidence would there be?!
And we know Trump and his administration lie. He is a literal felon for committing fraud.
Trump was going to nuke Iran. The US is a rogue nation with nuclear weapons controlled by a deranged psychopath dementia patient
I believe he did try to use them, but he is luckily too stupid to understand how. Perhaps he was shouting them out of the window, who knows.
I would hope a moral secret service member would step in and stop an unjustified use of the nuclear codes regardless of the legality. WW3 just ain’t worth it.
He wanted to nuke North Korea in his first term only to have generals deny him. So all of this is no surprise, the man is an idiot.
I’ve always held out this naive hope that „the suitcase“ is and has always been empty, except for a note inside that says „If You’re Reading This, You Failed“
He asked to nuke iran in his first term…
I’m beyond tired of hearing and seeing his face every. Single. Day. I wake up and it’s instantly „Did you hear/see what Trump said/posted?“ It’s been ten years of constant daily assault and I’m not even an American.
I cannot wait for the Big, Beautiful obituary.