>That is the purpose of [Senate Bill 2471](https://civilbeat.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/hi_20250sb2471), which would emphasize that corporations are “artificial persons” created by state law and granted powers and privileges by it — something SB 2471 points out is already part of Hawaiʻi’s constitution.
>The bill would make clear that the powers of corporations do not include spending money or contributing “anything of value” to influence elections or ballot measures, as the bill’s language explains
TrolliusJKingIIIEsq on
I love it. Montana is trying something similar, I believe.
Thrown_Account_ on
No because Supreme Court of the United States overrides any state level law and constitution if they find something is a constitutional right based on the Constitution of the United States. To kill Citizen United you need either a constitutional amendment or a new SCotUS case that overturns it.
FollowingOver1965 on
No. Citizens United is a First Amendment case, which in brief summary holds that: 1) political contributions are a form of protected political speech under the First Amendment; and 2) people don’t lose their First Amendment right to free speech just because they organize themselves as a corporation.
The First Amendment trumps Hawaii Corporations law. This law goes down as unconstitutional on a 7-2 or an 8-1 vote. It might even be 9-0.
BLU3SKU1L on
God I hope so.
HellaTroi on
Good on Hawaii. Montana made a similar law last August.
Nope. The principle from *Sherbert v. Verner* is the government may not condition any benefit to the public, in this case liability protection and legal personhood, on the relinquishment of any constitutional right; nor may any state deny any legal person applicable constitutional protections.
PluginAlong on
Even if this passes, it would only apply to corporations incorporated in Hawaii. Hawaii can define what a Hawaiian corporation is, but it can not define what a Delaware corporation is etc.. The number of Hawaii incorporated companies funneling large amounts of money into politics is probably not that large.
mksatz on
Della Belatti needs to run for lieutenant governor and then governor. She’s the one who can help get rid of Citizens United. She isn’t owned by the carpenters who abuse Citizens United the most.
SliceofNewsMan on
I’d like to hope so, but hope is in short supply these days so not sure I’ve got enough to actually believe it will go that way 😔
First-Expert-9953 on
There’s a saying over on Fark.com that any headline phrased as a question can almost always be answered with „No.“
New_Process_8519 on
This is a good start. Then we need to get our States to stop chartering corporations.
Logvin on
Prop 211 was passed in AZ by 72.3% of voters, the most successful initiative in AZ history, in 2022. It requires PACs to report a significant amount of information about where their funding comes from. It’s called the Voters Right To Know Act.
NSRedditShitposter on
The Kingdom of Hawai’i must unshackle itself from the corporate-run American empire.
ibflaubert on
Narrator: No, they can’t.
SemperFun62 on
Considering Hawai’i’s history with corporations…I can see why they’d be leading the charge on reeling them in
Majestic_Electric on
God I hope so, but given this SC’s track record, they probably can’t. 😔
adorientem88 on
This only passes constitutional muster if they also limit the ability of corporations to spend money on promoting every other kind of speech, as well. If they do that, it would be consistent with Citizens United. But then you can say goodbye to unions (which are corporations) and non-profit advocacy groups (which are corporations), since they cannot spend any money on doing what they are founded to do: promote a message.
If, on the other hand, Hawaii does this only for elections, then that’s content discrimination that gets you the same conclusion the majority got to in Citizens United.
ten-million on
If Citizens United were overturned no individual person would be harmed. Who has standing to oppose overturning Citizens United? I can’t think of another case where constitutional rights are granted to groups, let alone the extra rights of unlimited campaign contributions. You could say that the group of people Not-In-A-Group is still a group and don’t have equal protection. In fact, that’s the way it is now – we individuals alone, the group of us, are at a disadvantage. That’s why rights should only be granted to individuals.
BrokenDownMiata on
Something poetic about the state with the Union Jack and the stripes on it coming to restore a cornerstone of democracy.
Mrs_SmithG2W on
Economist Robert Reich made a great YouTube post on this:
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>That is the purpose of [Senate Bill 2471](https://civilbeat.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/hi_20250sb2471), which would emphasize that corporations are “artificial persons” created by state law and granted powers and privileges by it — something SB 2471 points out is already part of Hawaiʻi’s constitution.
>The bill would make clear that the powers of corporations do not include spending money or contributing “anything of value” to influence elections or ballot measures, as the bill’s language explains
I love it. Montana is trying something similar, I believe.
No because Supreme Court of the United States overrides any state level law and constitution if they find something is a constitutional right based on the Constitution of the United States. To kill Citizen United you need either a constitutional amendment or a new SCotUS case that overturns it.
No. Citizens United is a First Amendment case, which in brief summary holds that: 1) political contributions are a form of protected political speech under the First Amendment; and 2) people don’t lose their First Amendment right to free speech just because they organize themselves as a corporation.
The First Amendment trumps Hawaii Corporations law. This law goes down as unconstitutional on a 7-2 or an 8-1 vote. It might even be 9-0.
God I hope so.
Good on Hawaii. Montana made a similar law last August.
Transparent Election Initiative
https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-election-initiative/
Nope. The principle from *Sherbert v. Verner* is the government may not condition any benefit to the public, in this case liability protection and legal personhood, on the relinquishment of any constitutional right; nor may any state deny any legal person applicable constitutional protections.
Even if this passes, it would only apply to corporations incorporated in Hawaii. Hawaii can define what a Hawaiian corporation is, but it can not define what a Delaware corporation is etc.. The number of Hawaii incorporated companies funneling large amounts of money into politics is probably not that large.
Della Belatti needs to run for lieutenant governor and then governor. She’s the one who can help get rid of Citizens United. She isn’t owned by the carpenters who abuse Citizens United the most.
I’d like to hope so, but hope is in short supply these days so not sure I’ve got enough to actually believe it will go that way 😔
There’s a saying over on Fark.com that any headline phrased as a question can almost always be answered with „No.“
This is a good start. Then we need to get our States to stop chartering corporations.
Prop 211 was passed in AZ by 72.3% of voters, the most successful initiative in AZ history, in 2022. It requires PACs to report a significant amount of information about where their funding comes from. It’s called the Voters Right To Know Act.
The Kingdom of Hawai’i must unshackle itself from the corporate-run American empire.
Narrator: No, they can’t.
Considering Hawai’i’s history with corporations…I can see why they’d be leading the charge on reeling them in
God I hope so, but given this SC’s track record, they probably can’t. 😔
This only passes constitutional muster if they also limit the ability of corporations to spend money on promoting every other kind of speech, as well. If they do that, it would be consistent with Citizens United. But then you can say goodbye to unions (which are corporations) and non-profit advocacy groups (which are corporations), since they cannot spend any money on doing what they are founded to do: promote a message.
If, on the other hand, Hawaii does this only for elections, then that’s content discrimination that gets you the same conclusion the majority got to in Citizens United.
If Citizens United were overturned no individual person would be harmed. Who has standing to oppose overturning Citizens United? I can’t think of another case where constitutional rights are granted to groups, let alone the extra rights of unlimited campaign contributions. You could say that the group of people Not-In-A-Group is still a group and don’t have equal protection. In fact, that’s the way it is now – we individuals alone, the group of us, are at a disadvantage. That’s why rights should only be granted to individuals.
Something poetic about the state with the Union Jack and the stripes on it coming to restore a cornerstone of democracy.
Economist Robert Reich made a great YouTube post on this:
https://youtu.be/p1fPbGHe3xE
“Could this actually end Citizens United?”