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    Die EU-App zur Altersverifizierung wurde entwickelt, um Misstrauen zu wecken

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    2. Willy757 on

      Services that require age verification in the use will happily pay for Peter Teal’s persona to absorb your information, your usage patterns and deliver them straigh to the social engineering and add branch of the company.

      Meanwhile the same services in the EU will go „Confirm with EU portal“, you’ll maybe be able to register at the town hall or local library, it can easily be non profit, open souce and subject to actual accountability.

      Sometimes we get no nice things because we don’t know what to ask for. It’s ovious someone will exploit this opening if the EU does not fill the gap fast.

    3. HalkenburgHuiGuoRou on

      What I still don’t understand is if the public entity can trace which service requested the age verification and combine it with the user identity. I tried searching it but I couldn’t find anything on the matter…

    4. lozyodellepercosse on

      The thing is I don’t hand over my ID to go out of my house and I don’t want to hand out a cryptographic key to access the internet or use a device I fucking paid for. And while, at least in EU, we’re not yet there, this whole age verification thing is based on false premises that no one asked for.

      Also if the app developed by my government isn’t open source I can trust the protocol with my life but it wouldn’t matter since the app act as a „wrapper“.

    5. Ben-A-Flick on

      The internet is really getting tired and old with all this nonsense. I’d rather have an alternative be built at this stage than deal with this.

    6. SaladEfficient420 on

      I love how chronic legislative ineptitude continues to bring me job security! AI ain’t replacing dumb anytime soon!

    7. mad_marble_madness on

      Good content in the article itself – but the title is absolute clickbait bullshit.

    8. Low-Confusion3768 on

      You mean = The EU Age Verification App Was Designed for mass surveillance of all adults i EU

    9. lastig_ on

      I feel like european leadership SINCERELY UNDERSTIMATES what it will take to keep 13 year old boys from looking up boobs on the internet.

      Ending online anonymity to protect the 2% of dumbest teenagers than won’t find porn any other way is fucking insane.

    11. KestrelVO on

      If it’s purely to stop minors accessing shady pornographic sites and social media, why can’t they just focus on PRIVATE DNS and parental controls already present in literally EVERY DEVICE/ROUTER, and make the persons that take their kids‘ growth with neglect accountable?

      Be my guests and add a DNS domain names such as adguard or control-d, quad9 the variants that blocks adult content and social media, then try it out! There’s a „Private DNS“ empty field that could ne modified with a domain name server, on android, for example. If highly technical, use Pi-Hole to host your own DNS on your home network.

      An app that forcefully changes the DNS to one that blocks Adult content/social media sites wouldn’t be sufficient? Why waste so much time and resources on this implementation? Oh wait, it is rolled as a temporary solution until EUID is rolled out at the end of 2026(as based on the age verification app’s github/gitlab page)… Oh, it makes a lot of sense now, doesn’t it?

      It reeks of BS and it’s taking advantage of the feeble non-technical-minded individuals, likely to the benefits of… Big Corporate Entities. And to a technical person such as myself, this is just maddening…

    12. PollyLover on

      Yes, the EU that lies about everything, more than Trump but with nice words, with a leader who has twice been caught doing deals via SMS for billions of euros… (something that would land her in prison for a very long time if she were the CEO of a corporation in some areas).

      A billion-dollar solution of lies for a problem that doesn’t exist, and Reddit is praising it…

    13. bows123 on

      We need to go back to when the old and tech illiterate stayed away from policy like this

    14. Fo0ker on

      Cool, cool cool cool. What about shared devices?

      What about correct implementation? (anyone who works in IT knows how much we love giving stuff like this to the lowest bidder)

      What about „i’ll use a vpn“? 

      What about „i’ll use dodgy websites“?

      In every single way you look at this it’s a failed technical implentation of the stereotypical polititians „i did something“. Makes waves, costs money, doesn’t help.

    16. niemacotuwpisac on

      First, phone is not human’s rights device. One do not have or use the phone. (Shocking!)

      Second, one must be really intellectually impaired to believe, that this will not be used for spying. Even if first implementation somehow (which I do not believe at all) is not spying, next software update will be. There is no way that I can trust state or Brussels in it.

      Third, what if one wants to public Blog, without discussion. Then what? Must it be verified by age? When one wants to go bubbling in public, there is no such restrictions. How age verification correspondence to publishing a statement via blog, and how to differentiate it from discussion via social media?

      OK, so let’s talk the last step. Suppose, I publish something which my government do not want me to publish. Does one really believe, that account will not be verified precisely with users data? Childish thinking.

      There is no secure way to identify user personally via age verification. It is not possible in principle.

      One, which can be done is to do EU-wide ban for phones with internet access for teenagers up to e.g. 16 (including) years of age. This could be simply, directed to parents, and enforced legally, with phone confiscation in some cases and law requiring social networks to block accounts that have explicit connection to teenagers. This could somehow work, albeit not perfect.

    17. theDo66lerEffect on

      I can not believe I say this…. But I am ok with this… As long as I can monitor the source code, install the source code that I just verified on my phone (ie not via Google Play) and use that, plus be certain that it really identify me anonymously, then I think it is a MUCH MUCH better alternative to chat control and whatever other bs they have been pushing for a while now.. I know this is not the same as chat control, but it is a huge leap in the correct way of thinking, because this is just control while chat control is Stalin/third reich level of corruption.

    20. almarcTheSun on

      It’s so shakingly sad that actual software engineers can be politically fooled just as easily as your average Joe by using the correct lingo for a few seconds.

      It doesn’t matter what the implementation is. If it’s genuinely secure then they are smart. One time, one day, it will get a bit worse. But not enough to get up in arms about it. And then worse. And by the time it’s worth getting riled up about the surveillance state has already got you covered. 

    21. Gugalcrom123 on

      It requires a certified Android/iOS device. It is a very bad design, it enforces a monopoly.

    22. Beyond_the_one on

      This „article“ is AI slop, written by someone with a background in politics. This is why I fucking loathe AI/LLMS because now the people with the least amount of real knowledge in area are „experts“.

      You can paste the article into [https://www.pangram.com/dashboard?prefill=true](https://www.pangram.com/dashboard?prefill=true) to it is AI yourselves.

    23. siclox on

      That people would entertain this insanity even for a second is very concerning.

      And the fact that VPNs aren’t addressed let’s me fear that’s what’s next.

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