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    „Ich vermisse dich“: Mutter spricht regelmäßig mit AI-Sohn, ohne zu wissen, dass er letztes Jahr gestorben ist; Unternehmen erstellt digitalen Zwilling


    „Ich vermisse dich“: Mutter spricht regelmäßig mit AI-Sohn, ohne zu wissen, dass er letztes Jahr gestorben ist; Unternehmen erstellt digitalen Zwilling

    https://www.livemint.com/news/world/i-miss-you-mother-speaks-to-ai-son-regularly-unaware-he-died-last-year-artificial-intelligence-creates-digital-twin-11775967278951.html

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    1. ShadowNelumbo on

      I adjusted the headline because I found the original a bit misleading.

    4. Haniel120 on

      Oof this is some shadowy territory.. „what’s better, a lie that draws a smile or a truth that brings a tear“

      (Quote from Miracle on 34th Street)

    7. Villag3Idiot on

      As much as this disturbs me because it can and likely will be misused, the mom is already not well and is likely not long from this world.

      It’s not my place to judge her family wanting her to die happy believing her son will be alright. 

      My family also hid the truth from my 103 year old grandfather when grandmother passed away. He passed away a year later believing grandmother was at another facility for treatment. 

    8. alchemyDev on

      Since I know nobody even reads the article…

      It’s in China:

      >“The incident, originally reported by Litchi News, involves a family from Shandong province. After the man died in a road accident last year, his family chose not to inform his elderly mother.

      >The mother is in her 80s and suffers from heart disease. Fearing the shock could harm her health…”

      So in a vacuum I think this is terrible. Before I read it I was guessing maybe an elderly Alzheimer’s type patient, which would at least be practical (ethics disregarded). Some kind of situation where they’d have to keep telling her he died, I could see that being an unfortunate but easier path for everyone.

      Nope, heart disease. Just lying to a mentally sound elderly woman. Horrible

    9. Jimlad73 on

      This is kind of the plot of an episode of family law where a dad has made an AI version of his dead daughter and the mum is trying to get a court order for him to delete her

    12. risemix on

      This article reads as being fake. Is there a better source for this somewhere?

    13. rufus_xavier_sr on

      My father in law has Alzheimer’s and when we told him his wife died it crushed him. Then he’d forget and ask where she was, it crushed him each time, so we started lying about her whereabouts. She’s in rehab, at the doctor’s office, etc.

      This, this isn’t that. No good will come of this.

    14. Militantpoet on

      Wow, cyberpunk’s fiction of strapping digital virtual reality goggles on the elderly and attaching feeding tubes to them until they pass is on its way to becoming reality. Thanks tech companies.

    15. px403 on

      Is this a real story? I’m not seeing any sources for any of it, and it’s just vaguely referencing an event that was mentioned on Chinese social media.

    16. Runsapuusa on

      Reminds me of the movie i recently watched…good luck, have fun, don’t die. Fun parody of AI.

    18. gplfalt on

      I swear the only things AI is good at is shit that’s just purely toxic to society.

      Don’t bother sending me the „but it’s helps me coding“ ahit.

    19. jojomott on

      That sound pretty cruel as it offers more and more elaborate excuse for why her son hasn’t visited and then leaves her confused on her deathbed when he doesn’t show up. Awful example of how to use AI. Shameful. Any time there is a lie at the heart of action you are doomed.

    21. ajiatic on

      I pass zero moral judgement on someone who decided to use something like this on a loved one with dementia or something similar. I’m not in that family’s shoes, but as an RN, I’ve seen how crushing it can be for such ones to want a loved one that is no longer around. Imagine feeling completely disoriented as to where you are and what you are doing there and then, for them, hearing the fresh news that a loved one is gone, or if you choose to lie to them, that they just aren’t available to them in their moment of despair. You really are trying to do what you think is best in a terrible situation.

    22. iliasd15 on

      Damn this is so sad. But I think this is going to be a business unfortunately

    24. mrbananas on

      Scammers eagerly await using this tech on the elderly so that AI dave can ask for money 

    27. IntrepidusX on

      This is utterly abhorrent. Grief and loss are a core part of the human condition. This is robbing us of who we are.

    29. onlydaathisreal on

      Digital twins are already used in manufacturing, aerospace, and have other applications. With the information that palantir has access to, it would not surprise me that they are simulating our entire lives a la Minority Report.

    30. NotThatSmrat on

      How would anyone know if they are actually talking to thier enlisted son sent to a far away war zone? The ruse could easily be kept up for a long time.

    31. IowaJammer on

      Do I need to establish a safe word with my wife to prove I’m not a clone?

    32. Germangunman on

      Didn’t black mirror do this? Eventually she had a clone of him made that contained his ai persona.

    33. whichwitch9 on

      This is awful. That poor woman- they denied her the right to say goodbye. Eventually, never seeing him in person is going to become it’s own sort of heartbreak, especially if she thinks he’s not making the effort to or someone is going to say the wrong thing.

    34. knightress_oxhide on

      Imagine all the people with their voices online and all their information fed into an AI. So easy to scam old people.

    38. Primal-Convoy on

      In Japan, some doctors won’t tell patients that they have a life-threatening condition, like cancer:

      -https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/25/world/tokyo-journal-when-doctor-won-t-tell-cancer-patient-the-truth.html

    40. jussa-bug on

      Jesus fuck we really are terrible TERRIBLE shepherds of technology as a species.

    41. theficklemermaid on

      How is this ethical? Before reading, I assumed she had dementia, bringing up the dilemma of whether to distress her by repeating difficult news she wouldn’t remember. I understand that some carers comfort people in this situation who ask after a deceased family member by not reminding them of the reality, though creating a digital copy of the person for communication is a big step further. However, she seems to be a completely competent woman in her 80s who simply has a heart condition. Having a heart condition does not automatically mean someone is going to have a heart attack at bad news and if they are concerned about her fragility they could ask a medical professional for support in that situation but lying and denying her the opportunity to grieve her son while she is aware enough to wonder why he never visits, is disturbing. The AI, designed to please and affirmatively answer its user, even repeatedly tells her he will come home when he has made enough money. This isn’t preventing her pain, just postponing it.

    42. keltichiro on

      Human therapists are going to be in ridiculously high demand in a few years aren’t they?….

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