Who gets to decide on the proposals? I know with $ICP you can actually see the motion and track the voting and you can even go back 3 years to see how a wallet address has been voting.
I really want to know how it works
feanarosurion on
And everyone will tell them to fuck off like they deserve (Lopp is a scammer) and we won’t say anything more about this.
CXgamer on
Dangerous precedent!
GrandmasBoyToy69 on
We ok with just freezing wallets now? Y’all don’t see a future issue here?
WingsOfParagon on
that doesn’t sound very decentralized
FinallyArt on
That’s storing value all right
bbatardo on
It would do way more harm than good if it happens. What they should be proposing or working on is better security if it is a concern.
potatoMan8111 on
Holy shit bitcoin has turned into such a fucking clownshow. Glad i sold mine and bought ethereum years ago.
Docccc on
the fact they even considering this is insane. It would absolutely destroy bitcoins credibility
B34chboy on
Bad idea, just let it happen, they can only sell those coins once.
Videoplushair on
But but but decentralized 😢😢😢
amx-002_neue-ziel on
wtf, if you’re doing that I’m out
Senkoy on
This would defeat the purpose of Bitcoin to begin with. No one should be able to freeze wallets.
ThreeTonChonker on
It is fascinating seeing the bots at work in this sub.
Just nonstop FUD where everyone parrots each other’s “skepticism” but no one actually engages on any subject.
From the article TLDR:
> The proposal would first block new sends to quantum-vulnerable addresses, then freeze legacy signature paths on a five-year clock from activation, leaving any later recovery path for frozen funds as a separate unresolved phase.
They’re trying to block people from making pointless, symbolic sends to dead addresses.
All of this overlooks the fact that there would be a recovery process if the dead addresses ever tried to reactivate, which they wouldn’t, because they’re completely dead and have had plenty of time to prove otherwise.
BicycleOfLife on
I’m they can propose that all they want and guess what. It’s a democracy and it will never pass. Imagine if every 15 years bitcoin just locked all the wallets because they said they were outdated… that’s worse than a centralized bank.
BigvalBROski on
BANK 2.0!!!!
Creative_Visit122 on
Whoa whoa whoa. Everyday brings new chaos!
no_choice99 on
Lol. These are turd ideas by the current Bitcoin devs. The pilot of the plane is drunk guys. Time to learn how to use a parachute.
J5966358 on
Ah so I finally need to move my 10k BTC? Hope this can be done in my jail.
AuHik on
I’m surprised by the lack of foresight here. This is technical problem not a „political“ one. Nobody is saying „freeze Iran’s wallets“ or similar. Also nobody is saying „tomorrow the wallets will be freezed and you are screwed „. For sure there will be migration notice so anybody **who actually have access** to those wallets will have time to migrate to the new safe wallets. Obviously access to the lost ones (Satoshi?) will be gone but that is a good thing because of the problem that it solves…
tommyrulz1 on
If it ends all this silly “quantum vulnerability” fud, then yes 🚀
demon4unter on
Stupid Idea. It would force them to sell. Otherwise they might n3ver sell.
DazHawt on
So no government controls it, but it isn’t actually decentralized.
jclaslie on
Sounds like a dumb idea which could backfire horrifically. If they freeze early wallets they set a precedent which leaves room for new freezes in the future. The appeal of BTC was always the permissionless part…
Tai9ch on
I’m no fan of the BTC devs, but this is probably a good idea as long as there’s plenty of warning and it’s staged properly.
Without freezing quantum-vulnerable wallets at some point they’re just a prize for whoever gets a big enough quantum computer first. I’m not even sure that’s a bad thing, but the BTC chain has a lot of early UXTOs that will likely never move again.
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So they are quantum safe like Satoshis I presume?
Who gets to decide on the proposals? I know with $ICP you can actually see the motion and track the voting and you can even go back 3 years to see how a wallet address has been voting.
I really want to know how it works
And everyone will tell them to fuck off like they deserve (Lopp is a scammer) and we won’t say anything more about this.
Dangerous precedent!
We ok with just freezing wallets now? Y’all don’t see a future issue here?
that doesn’t sound very decentralized
That’s storing value all right
It would do way more harm than good if it happens. What they should be proposing or working on is better security if it is a concern.
Holy shit bitcoin has turned into such a fucking clownshow. Glad i sold mine and bought ethereum years ago.
the fact they even considering this is insane. It would absolutely destroy bitcoins credibility
Bad idea, just let it happen, they can only sell those coins once.
But but but decentralized 😢😢😢
wtf, if you’re doing that I’m out
This would defeat the purpose of Bitcoin to begin with. No one should be able to freeze wallets.
It is fascinating seeing the bots at work in this sub.
Just nonstop FUD where everyone parrots each other’s “skepticism” but no one actually engages on any subject.
From the article TLDR:
> The proposal would first block new sends to quantum-vulnerable addresses, then freeze legacy signature paths on a five-year clock from activation, leaving any later recovery path for frozen funds as a separate unresolved phase.
They’re trying to block people from making pointless, symbolic sends to dead addresses.
All of this overlooks the fact that there would be a recovery process if the dead addresses ever tried to reactivate, which they wouldn’t, because they’re completely dead and have had plenty of time to prove otherwise.
I’m they can propose that all they want and guess what. It’s a democracy and it will never pass. Imagine if every 15 years bitcoin just locked all the wallets because they said they were outdated… that’s worse than a centralized bank.
BANK 2.0!!!!
Whoa whoa whoa. Everyday brings new chaos!
Lol. These are turd ideas by the current Bitcoin devs. The pilot of the plane is drunk guys. Time to learn how to use a parachute.
Ah so I finally need to move my 10k BTC? Hope this can be done in my jail.
I’m surprised by the lack of foresight here. This is technical problem not a „political“ one. Nobody is saying „freeze Iran’s wallets“ or similar. Also nobody is saying „tomorrow the wallets will be freezed and you are screwed „. For sure there will be migration notice so anybody **who actually have access** to those wallets will have time to migrate to the new safe wallets. Obviously access to the lost ones (Satoshi?) will be gone but that is a good thing because of the problem that it solves…
If it ends all this silly “quantum vulnerability” fud, then yes 🚀
Stupid Idea. It would force them to sell. Otherwise they might n3ver sell.
So no government controls it, but it isn’t actually decentralized.
Sounds like a dumb idea which could backfire horrifically. If they freeze early wallets they set a precedent which leaves room for new freezes in the future. The appeal of BTC was always the permissionless part…
I’m no fan of the BTC devs, but this is probably a good idea as long as there’s plenty of warning and it’s staged properly.
Without freezing quantum-vulnerable wallets at some point they’re just a prize for whoever gets a big enough quantum computer first. I’m not even sure that’s a bad thing, but the BTC chain has a lot of early UXTOs that will likely never move again.