> „If the United States truly thinks about withdrawing from NATO, then European security will be based solely on the European Union. But not in its current form. I think that the EU is in a situation where it needs more countries.
> „And fast – time is running out.
> „UK, Ukraine, Turkey, and Norway. These four countries. Together, the UK, Ukraine, and Turkey have armies that are stronger than Russia’s army. Without us, Europe can’t match Russia.
> „In my view, there’s really no excuse not to act on this“.
CosmoCosma on
Zelensky supports EU expansion beyond merely Ukraine? I guess I can see his rationale.
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taucko on
we’re gonna attack turkey because Likud, or the MIC, or the evangelicals, or Peter Thiel want us to
arkallastral on
Trump wants to leave NATO because Israel’s next target is Turkey…
thanks-for-platinum on
Luxembourg trying to act like it’s part of the club
Tough-Oven4317 on
As a Brit I’d support a military alliance with turkey, Norway, and Ukraine
Tenchi_Muyo1 on
Netanyahu already said Erdoğan (Türkiye) is next, so that’s the only reason for US to leave NATO for some period of time
Yourstruly75 on
I even think that, ideally, the EU should open up a membership path for any country in the world. „As long as you adhere to these principles and achieve this level of development…“
But hey, I’m a dreamer
brickne3 on
It’s not unreasonable, but Switzerland is notably missing.
rjt2002 on
What’s the significance of Luxembourg joining the EU when the context here is probably related to the military strength ?
whiznat on
Aren’t Norway and Turkey already part of NATO? According to Wiki, they are.
Ycel10 on
Interesting, he is making this call after yesterday Erdogan’s coalition partner talked to a Russian newspaper and forcing Erdogan to strengthen cooperation with Russia and China
OberonDiver on
Never before did I see the doggy style inherent in Europe. Now I will never unsee.
JoeNTMY on
I’m pretty sure looking at this map Luxembourg is already a member of the EU
MidWestKhagan on
The israeli apartheid wants to fight Türkiye and send it into chaos like it has done with every other neighboring country so it can expand into it. That’s the goal for this apartheid. America likes vassals so it doesn’t want civil war, but its rotting appendage israel doesn’t like that, it likes countries that it hates to be in total chaos or totally destroyed so it can build colonies inside of it. Do not think that the greater israel idea is just a netenyahu thing, it’s a whole israel thing.
NoWingedHussarsToday on
This is stupid on several levels. Ignoring the fact that head of non member state is telling EU what in needs to do, EU is not primarily military thing. It’s an economic and political association bringing together countries that share geographical space but have different military positions.
Let’s say for a moment this happens and EU assumes NATO’s military role. What happens to Austria? It’s neutral and EU member. Cyprus is not NATO member either. And let’s talk about how different positions will play out. Let’s say Israel decides threats are not enough and starts murdering Italian peacekeepers in Lebanon. Italy calls on EU to act. Will Germany stop sucking Israel’s cock long enough to say „we are strongly against doing anything and Italy needs to apologise to Israel for having to spend bullets“ or will they simply do thumbs-down gesture so they can keep sucking?
If Us leaves NATO then other states should deal with it and adapt NATO to it, not create something new out of fabric that doesn’t work.
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> „If the United States truly thinks about withdrawing from NATO, then European security will be based solely on the European Union. But not in its current form. I think that the EU is in a situation where it needs more countries.
> „And fast – time is running out.
> „UK, Ukraine, Turkey, and Norway. These four countries. Together, the UK, Ukraine, and Turkey have armies that are stronger than Russia’s army. Without us, Europe can’t match Russia.
> „In my view, there’s really no excuse not to act on this“.
Zelensky supports EU expansion beyond merely Ukraine? I guess I can see his rationale.
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we’re gonna attack turkey because Likud, or the MIC, or the evangelicals, or Peter Thiel want us to
Trump wants to leave NATO because Israel’s next target is Turkey…
Luxembourg trying to act like it’s part of the club
As a Brit I’d support a military alliance with turkey, Norway, and Ukraine
Netanyahu already said Erdoğan (Türkiye) is next, so that’s the only reason for US to leave NATO for some period of time
I even think that, ideally, the EU should open up a membership path for any country in the world. „As long as you adhere to these principles and achieve this level of development…“
But hey, I’m a dreamer
It’s not unreasonable, but Switzerland is notably missing.
What’s the significance of Luxembourg joining the EU when the context here is probably related to the military strength ?
Aren’t Norway and Turkey already part of NATO? According to Wiki, they are.
Interesting, he is making this call after yesterday Erdogan’s coalition partner talked to a Russian newspaper and forcing Erdogan to strengthen cooperation with Russia and China
Never before did I see the doggy style inherent in Europe. Now I will never unsee.
I’m pretty sure looking at this map Luxembourg is already a member of the EU
The israeli apartheid wants to fight Türkiye and send it into chaos like it has done with every other neighboring country so it can expand into it. That’s the goal for this apartheid. America likes vassals so it doesn’t want civil war, but its rotting appendage israel doesn’t like that, it likes countries that it hates to be in total chaos or totally destroyed so it can build colonies inside of it. Do not think that the greater israel idea is just a netenyahu thing, it’s a whole israel thing.
This is stupid on several levels. Ignoring the fact that head of non member state is telling EU what in needs to do, EU is not primarily military thing. It’s an economic and political association bringing together countries that share geographical space but have different military positions.
Let’s say for a moment this happens and EU assumes NATO’s military role. What happens to Austria? It’s neutral and EU member. Cyprus is not NATO member either. And let’s talk about how different positions will play out. Let’s say Israel decides threats are not enough and starts murdering Italian peacekeepers in Lebanon. Italy calls on EU to act. Will Germany stop sucking Israel’s cock long enough to say „we are strongly against doing anything and Italy needs to apologise to Israel for having to spend bullets“ or will they simply do thumbs-down gesture so they can keep sucking?
If Us leaves NATO then other states should deal with it and adapt NATO to it, not create something new out of fabric that doesn’t work.