FYI, the „+“ in 2SLGBTQ+ stands for everything else that wouldn’t practically fit under the umbrella
tgspeed7287 on
Genuine question: would it not make more sense to have a single, uniform term to represent the community rather than confusing and inconsistent acronyms? For example, ‘The Pride Community’ seems like it would be all encompassing, easy to understand and inclusive.
OSLO-1823 on
will each letter have a card given?
Dry-Membership8141 on
Just gonna throw this out there: Indigenous men are murdered at roughly 3x the rate of Indigenous women.
If this is about inclusivity, why are they omitted? The article tells us that:
>The full acronym has been used for years in government, advocacy, and community contexts to emphasize intersectionality. It is intentionally lengthy in order to name everyone who has historically been left out of national conversations about violence, justice, and safety.
but are we seriously going to pretend that Indigenous men, at least as victims, *haven’t* been left out of national conversations about violence, justice, and safety?
Couldn’t we just say „missing and murdered Indigenous *people*“?
Enigmatic_Penguin on
The first ever Macronym.
explosive_fascinator on
I’ve been saying it phonetically.
draxa on
Murdered and missing indigenous women and girls with 2slgbtqqia+ stuck on it.
Usual_Durian2092 on
How can someone identify as Murdered ?
passionate_emu on
This is getting a little out of hand
Hikury on
Am I crazy or was LGBT originally a label for non-conforming sexual preferences?
Darkray117 on
LGBT+ is so much better.
CheeseSauce_86 on
I know MMIWG2, and LGBTQQIA+ but never altogether.
It’s two separate entities, as far as I know.
OrangeCrack on
Alphabet people is starting to sound more and more reasonable rather than just trying to guess the right acronym that’s currently in favor.
IMO, the cause has not been helped by adding any additional letters beyond LGBT, it’s just made the whole movement seem silly. I say this as a socially liberal person who supports equal rights for everyone, that this dialog is only feeding the fire on the wrong side of the equation that is raging stronger everyday.
Minimum-Song4242 on
OK now things got stupid. Come on really ??
SlumdogSkillionaire on
TIL Missing and Murdered Indigenous Woman is a sexual orientation.
pottymonster_69 on
You know, I’m all for the message and what they’re about. But they’ve gotta understand that so many people, possibly even a majority of people, are gonna see an acronym like that and roll their eyes and tune them out.
They gotta workshop that one.
honk_incident on
This is the kind of thing that makes people roll their eyes and shut out everything they perceive as left.
idisagreeurwrong on
I believe that means „unelectable“
JimmySanders74 on
From the NDP? You don’t say.
Unlucky_Accountant71 on
A stupid acronym. Just say whatever it stands for instead.
This is getting ridiculous
Longjumping_Crab_345 on
Ok I know it’s more fun get upset without reading, but i just looked at the article. It’s an acronym used largely by activists specifically referring to the ongoing violence against Indigenous women and LGBTQ+ people. It’s like a hash tag that basically means calling attention to the disproportionate violence against „Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, 2 Spirit and LGBTQIA+ people“.
stereofonix on
This is just getting out of hand. How are missing and murdered Indigenous Women a sexual orientation or tied up into this.
its9x6 on
This right here is why the fringe left (and right) aren’t taken super seriously.
Intentioned-Help-607 on
I’m as progressive as anyone else with a brain, but I got off the boat at LGBTQ (maybe somes +). Now we are adding murdered and missing Indigenous women and girls? How about an H for homeless? How about DV for domestic violence victims? R for robbery victims? How about D for disabled, another A for autistic, and another S for those who attempt suicide? A third S for straight? P for pets? Another I for imaginary friends?
This is why progressives lose people and why conservatives win. They take their good intentions and reasonable efforts to be inclusive, understanding, and advocating and take it to a level where almost nobody is.
What did grandmother say? “So open minded that your brains fall out.” or what does my friend say? “The social/political spectrum isn’t a line, it’s a circle. So left you’re right.”
rainman_104 on
Mmiwg is fair game. Missing murdered indigenous women and girls.
Mashing it with the rest idk. There isn’t anything necessarily gay or straight about them. The mashup is a bit weird.
AirMinute7060 on
international laughing stock it is.
FunnyChampionship717 on
This is why we can’t have nice things
SnooConfections8768 on
So can we finally admit that this is getting out if control?
giant_hog_simmons on
Speaks more to our society’s love for pigeon holing and categorizing. People who identify as any of that aren’t immune.
Right_Hour on
Sounds like a shitty Scrabble hand.
FogTub on
If I don’t know someone’s deal I’ll call them „friend“, and treat them how I would want them to treat me.
cptmcsexy on
The part im confused about is Im not sure how we are commiting genocide, she seems to be talking about the present not the past. Isn’t a lot of the problem due to gladue anyways?
Acolyte2TheDude on
If you find yourself trying to describe something and want to be taken seriously do not use a *sixteen* character acronym. Something so long reads as parody or bad satire.
Goldhound807 on
And we wonder why people don’t take the NDP seriously.
WiseDebt7345 on
It sounds like all these groups are coming closer to realizing that all lives matter.
Michalo88 on
I thought this was just a joke when I heard it.
LooseLynx1522 on
this is social inclusion gone insane .. total nonsense
CanadianPropagandist on
I’m extremely progressive and I’m not committing all that to memory. That’s some Eddington level parody.
Javaddict on
Can we start rolling out eyes yet?
Winnipeg-Bear on
So many letters and numbers have been added, that it takes away the power of the original intent.
I’m LGBT+, that’s all the letters that’s needed. Anything else just seems like an attempt to ‘hitch a wagon’ to further another cause.
Greghole on
Murdered and missing indigenous women and girls (no idea how they got lumped in), two spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, and the + covers everyone else who isn’t just a straight white man.
CrackerJackJack on
Can I identify as missing just for tomorrow’s work meeting — Then I’ll be found.
Zealousideal-Key2398 on
Is the „S“ silent?
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It sounds like a wifi password
FYI, the „+“ in 2SLGBTQ+ stands for everything else that wouldn’t practically fit under the umbrella
Genuine question: would it not make more sense to have a single, uniform term to represent the community rather than confusing and inconsistent acronyms? For example, ‘The Pride Community’ seems like it would be all encompassing, easy to understand and inclusive.
will each letter have a card given?
Just gonna throw this out there: Indigenous men are murdered at roughly 3x the rate of Indigenous women.
If this is about inclusivity, why are they omitted? The article tells us that:
>The full acronym has been used for years in government, advocacy, and community contexts to emphasize intersectionality. It is intentionally lengthy in order to name everyone who has historically been left out of national conversations about violence, justice, and safety.
but are we seriously going to pretend that Indigenous men, at least as victims, *haven’t* been left out of national conversations about violence, justice, and safety?
Couldn’t we just say „missing and murdered Indigenous *people*“?
The first ever Macronym.
I’ve been saying it phonetically.
Murdered and missing indigenous women and girls with 2slgbtqqia+ stuck on it.
How can someone identify as Murdered ?
This is getting a little out of hand
Am I crazy or was LGBT originally a label for non-conforming sexual preferences?
LGBT+ is so much better.
I know MMIWG2, and LGBTQQIA+ but never altogether.
It’s two separate entities, as far as I know.
Alphabet people is starting to sound more and more reasonable rather than just trying to guess the right acronym that’s currently in favor.
IMO, the cause has not been helped by adding any additional letters beyond LGBT, it’s just made the whole movement seem silly. I say this as a socially liberal person who supports equal rights for everyone, that this dialog is only feeding the fire on the wrong side of the equation that is raging stronger everyday.
OK now things got stupid. Come on really ??
TIL Missing and Murdered Indigenous Woman is a sexual orientation.
You know, I’m all for the message and what they’re about. But they’ve gotta understand that so many people, possibly even a majority of people, are gonna see an acronym like that and roll their eyes and tune them out.
They gotta workshop that one.
This is the kind of thing that makes people roll their eyes and shut out everything they perceive as left.
I believe that means „unelectable“
From the NDP? You don’t say.
A stupid acronym. Just say whatever it stands for instead.
This is getting ridiculous
Ok I know it’s more fun get upset without reading, but i just looked at the article. It’s an acronym used largely by activists specifically referring to the ongoing violence against Indigenous women and LGBTQ+ people. It’s like a hash tag that basically means calling attention to the disproportionate violence against „Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, 2 Spirit and LGBTQIA+ people“.
This is just getting out of hand. How are missing and murdered Indigenous Women a sexual orientation or tied up into this.
This right here is why the fringe left (and right) aren’t taken super seriously.
I’m as progressive as anyone else with a brain, but I got off the boat at LGBTQ (maybe somes +). Now we are adding murdered and missing Indigenous women and girls? How about an H for homeless? How about DV for domestic violence victims? R for robbery victims? How about D for disabled, another A for autistic, and another S for those who attempt suicide? A third S for straight? P for pets? Another I for imaginary friends?
This is why progressives lose people and why conservatives win. They take their good intentions and reasonable efforts to be inclusive, understanding, and advocating and take it to a level where almost nobody is.
What did grandmother say? “So open minded that your brains fall out.” or what does my friend say? “The social/political spectrum isn’t a line, it’s a circle. So left you’re right.”
Mmiwg is fair game. Missing murdered indigenous women and girls.
Mashing it with the rest idk. There isn’t anything necessarily gay or straight about them. The mashup is a bit weird.
international laughing stock it is.
This is why we can’t have nice things
So can we finally admit that this is getting out if control?
Speaks more to our society’s love for pigeon holing and categorizing. People who identify as any of that aren’t immune.
Sounds like a shitty Scrabble hand.
If I don’t know someone’s deal I’ll call them „friend“, and treat them how I would want them to treat me.
The part im confused about is Im not sure how we are commiting genocide, she seems to be talking about the present not the past. Isn’t a lot of the problem due to gladue anyways?
If you find yourself trying to describe something and want to be taken seriously do not use a *sixteen* character acronym. Something so long reads as parody or bad satire.
And we wonder why people don’t take the NDP seriously.
It sounds like all these groups are coming closer to realizing that all lives matter.
I thought this was just a joke when I heard it.
this is social inclusion gone insane .. total nonsense
I’m extremely progressive and I’m not committing all that to memory. That’s some Eddington level parody.
Can we start rolling out eyes yet?
So many letters and numbers have been added, that it takes away the power of the original intent.
I’m LGBT+, that’s all the letters that’s needed. Anything else just seems like an attempt to ‘hitch a wagon’ to further another cause.
Murdered and missing indigenous women and girls (no idea how they got lumped in), two spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, and the + covers everyone else who isn’t just a straight white man.
Can I identify as missing just for tomorrow’s work meeting — Then I’ll be found.
Is the „S“ silent?