„Die Realität ist, dass Avatar 3 gut lief, aber als kulturelle Kraft ist es erschöpft“ – Berichten zufolge diskutiert James Cameron über Möglichkeiten, Avatar 4 und 5 billiger und kürzer zu machen
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-reality-is-avatar-3-did-ok-but-as-a-cultural-force-its-exhausted-james-cameron-reportedly-discussing-ways-to-make-avatar-4-and-5-cheaper-and-shorter
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Invest in miniatures and some costumes
Its a sad state of affairs where a movie can make over 1 billion dollars and thats just „OK“. Thats an insane amount of money. The whole industry is fucked if thats where they’re at.
A good writer would compensate well for downscale in other areas, like the visuals. Just saying as someone who didn’t hate these movies.
As a cultural force? Aside from the FX the whole series is utterly forgettable.
I hope 4 and 5 get made
Try making a new story. Go to a new planet
Make them more interesting. The stories are 2 basic. And each film follows the same formula.
Perhaps tell a new story? Like wtf
Hire the WNBA and paint em blue or is that what already happens???
I will never understand his obsession with making Avatar. Why do you need 5 chapters of the same tired ass story?
Maybe because it was the same movie as the sequel, which was the same movie as the original, with slightly different-looking, blue creatures?
If Jimmy had invested more time into crafting the story as he did for the technical aspects of these films maybe he wouldn’t be running into this issue now instead of later.
We’re all going to be at a different stage in our lives if he really manages to get to film number 7. That’s maybe 12-15 years away.
James Cameron might want to crack on with them – and make them quicker and shorter – simply to make it more likely that he’ll get to see them finish.
*Avatar 3* felt like the deleted scenes of *Avatar 2*. So yeah, he’s not wrong.
Cultural force? The movie’s are wildly successful, but their cultural impact seems to be that they come around every once in a while, impress everyone on a technical level and are subsequently forgotten.
My kids forced me to watch this film with them a few days ago. Truth be told, if you turn your brain off, the three hours go by quite quickly and there are some good set pieces here and there. But it’s now been about 10 days or so since we watched and I could not remember a single thing about it. That’s your Avatar experience in a nutshell. Pretty, but so, so forgettable because there really is nothing memorable about them.
It was never a „cultural force“ it was always gimmick. And a weaksauce one at that
Bro, you always introduce time travel in the fourth episode, and then you do multiverse in the fifth. Duh, james cameron.
Do an animated series for Disney Plus
I did not care to see Avatar 3 and so I didn’t.
The 2nd was a very enjoyable experience, but that movie did not end with me dying to see more.
When I really think about it, half the reason I wanted to see avatar two was to how the visuals looked after almost 15 years.
This new one coming only two years after the last one did not have that added benefit of my curiosity for the visual effects. I’d be willing to bet I’m not the only one who thought that.
There’s no excuse for how long these movies are. That’s why I didn’t see part 3. They could all be a full hour shorter.
Who is clamoring for these movies? I literally know ZERO people who give a shit about them.
Unpopular opinion, but I was not thrilled with the first one. I didn’t think it was worthy of a sequel and I certainly didn’t think it deserved to become a dynasty.
None of these movies have a story that could even remotely justify their runtime. Start there.
These movies are super forgettable. Pretty but empty. Hard to be a cultural force when it’s so bland.
Was it ever a cultural force? I’ve never seen much in the way of Reddit conversations about any of the movies. I think the first one came out and people went more because of the novelty of it. But in the intervening decade+ before the second movie came out, did anyone actually give a shit that it was taking so long? Does anyone actually care about any of these movies and their mythology? Is there anything enduring about them?
Don’t make the same movie 2 times?
I really don’t know what the difference between Avatar 2 and 3 is,
Dear Mr. Cameron –
Maybe if you’d had better writers throughout you’d be doing better.
No shit. You remade one of your movies twice with literally the same plot
Avatar 3 felt way too much like a retread of 2. Visually it was stunning but nothing really changed in the universe from the start to the end of the e movie.
Avatar was never a cultural force. It had no impact on culture whatsoever except as a benchmark for the technology/CGI quality. The story and acting are terrible. There’s no reason it needs to go on for 4 or 5 or 7 films.
Why make them at all? Boring CGI crap to me!
He’s an amazing, generational filmmaker. I just wish he hadn’t spent the last 20 years of his passion and expertise on something so contrived and tepid.
Dude should be making action blockbusters, not hyper-budgeted versions of 90s straight-to-VHS adventure fantasy movies.
Avatar 3 was the first one I didn’t watch in the theater. It’s just kind of an exhausted idea…plus I’m constantly exhausted and broke because of all the nonsense going on in my country (US).
If I’m being honest the only thing Avatar related I’ve ever been impressed with was the Pandora section of Animal Kingdom at Disney World. I’ve only seen the first movie and, while it was visually stunning, I never understood why they’d spend so much money to tell such a bland story.
My problem with the Avatar series is they are so formulaic and boring. Why would you commit to this epic project, get billions allocated to making it, spare zero expense, but then make a plot that is just Dances With Wolves all over again, with dialogue cringier than your average Hallmark holiday movie.
He could be doing great things like Nolan or Villenueve, but NOOOOO he likes his blue pocahontas money.
Nobody gives a shit.
I’d probably rather see an Abyss sequel than another Avatar and I’d really rather not see an Abyss sequel.
It’s just utter crap 💩
The movies are super long. I wanted to wait and watch it on Disney+ soil I could pause
I mean, the wasn’t a cultural behemoth either was it..
Some of the same old school, tepid liberal platitudes that we’ve seen in any other good coloniser stories for about a hundred years.
Way of water was so bad it killed the franchise
It was never a cultural force to begin with, no one talks about avatar at all, nor has it won any meaningful awards