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    „Ein Arbeitsweg von 60 Minuten oder mehr pro Strecke in und aus Tokio ist Lebensverschwendung … Der größte Fehler von Menschen, die in die Vororte fliehen, weil das Stadtzentrum zu teuer ist.“


    „Ein Arbeitsweg von 60 Minuten oder mehr pro Strecke in und aus Tokio ist Lebensverschwendung … Der größte Fehler von Menschen, die in die Vororte fliehen, weil das Stadtzentrum zu teuer ist.“

    https://president.jp/articles/-/111345

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    1. emp_sanfords_hardhat on

      >_年間500時間を移動に「投資」するのか_

      Maybe if people were paid additionally for the hours they commuted to fucking work, they could actually afford to eventually live somewhere closer to the city center.

      Or… hear me out… if full time work-from-home became a standard policy for occupations that allow it, then people could enjoy living outside of the city centers. Then maybe, just maaaaaaybe, the value of land in the inner city areas might drop.

      But we can’t have that. Fuck poor people.

    2. LearningT0Fly on

      Lol when I lived in LA, I lived ~3 miles from work and it would regularly take me 90 minutes to get home that’s how bad traffic was.

    3. ClemFandango6000 on

      The author clearly hasn’t figured out how to read a book on the train.

    5. belaGJ on

      So what? What else do you do if you don’t have money to buy a house in Minato-ku or wherever you want?

    7. BrilliantHeavy on

      First world problems truly. Here in the US we don’t have public transit and most of us spend atleast 30 minutes driving ourselves where we can’t read or play video games or do work during the commute

    8. Spez_is-a-nazi on

      It’s not like there aren’t a ton of other cities in Japan that have reasonable commutes and reasonable housing….oh wait there are. Japan cannot solve the birth rate crisis without first solving the Tokyo problem. Birth rates in Tokyo are 30% below the national average which is a real big problem when that’s where most of your young people end up going. 

      Young people today are faced with a choice, stay close to home where familial support is available and housing and commutes are reasonable but where there are few job prospects or go to Tokyo where there are lots of jobs but brutal commutes and housing prices are sky high. Do either of those sound amenable to having kids? I sometimes look online to see how much I could get in Kagoshima for the same price I bought my house for in Kawasaki. It’s crazy how much better stuff is there for the same price. If I could have gotten a job in Kagoshima I would have moved there but alas I couldn’t find anything outside of Tokyo 

    9. c00750ny3h on

      Work is a waste of life but I do it for the measly yen salary I get so I don’t starve.

    10. yakswak on

      It’s a tone deaf article. I don’t know how reasonable is for most to afford a 1.5oku loan

    11. Working-Sport-3332 on

      The argument for living in the city falls apart when you look at the human cost. First, there’s the ‚Overtime Paradox‘: less commuting usually just leads to more pressure from the company to work longer hours. Then there’s the environmental toll – the constant friction of crowds, noise, and the high cost of living compared to rural areas.

      But the most important factor isn’t financial; it’s health. I live outside Tokyo to survive. I have lived through burnout syndrome that was almost fatal. A close friend of mine, facing the same pressure at the same time, ended up taking his own life. I choose the commute because it provides a necessary boundary that literally saves lives.

    12. thened on

      Sitting on a train going to and from the city is fine. Moving around in Tokyo in rush hour trains and subways is way more stressful.

    13. smellsliketigerbalm on

      I had an approx. 2-hour commute from Nishi-Tokyo to central Tokyo/Kanagawa (Tennozu Isle, Kawasaki, Akasaka). I was miserable. Over time, weekend project work, packed trains, no seats, grumpy salary men etc. I had zero sympathy from my father-in-law, who had done the same thing for 27 years… This is no way to live if you have a family. I changed gears as soon as my wife was pregnant with our first child.

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