Der pensionierte US-General sagt, US-Militärführer seien verpflichtet, illegale Befehle von Trump abzulehnen – Aufstand der Armee in Ordnung?
https://www.ibtimes.com/retired-us-general-says-us-military-leaders-are-duty-bound-reject-illegal-orders-trump-army-3800945
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they haven’t yet though?
if he launches nukes at 8 pm tonight — and you still go to work tomorrow — and you still buy shit — if you still enable this regime and don’t begin a total and complete strike until he’s forced out of office — then this world is forever doomed and i’m convinced humanity will either be reduced to scattered hunter/gather tribes or become extinct within the next couple centuries.
Isnt the president giving orders to fire the nukes are typically considered legal orders though? Not a fan, but I dont think that saves us here
I kinda thought most of these orders were illegal since this war doesn’t have the legally required congressional approval…
Any order to deploy nuclear weapons needs to be ignored.
This is it, folks. Our country stands on the razor’s edge of integrity. I’d like to believe that Trump always chickens out, but the combination of rage, impotence, hubris and dementia may have created a perfect storm that will strip the United States of any claim to international respect we might have left.
Isn’t going to happen. Its naive of Americans to believe their country’s military has any sort of moral code, especially after the 100s of thousands of civilians they slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wake up! You are the world’s most dangerous terrorist organization.
„reopen the strait or we will destroy you“, Screams trump red faced.
„Its already open, just not to you and israel“ – Says iran and The rest of the planet
Duty-bound to say no. That’s the oath. Not loyalty to Trump. To the Constitution.
Well this is awkward, over on r/Military they’re saying Veterans need to speak up on all this because active duty military cannot
Key word is „retired.“ When we hear this from active duty, I’ll pay attention.
If it ends in a question mark, the answer is always no.
You know, when so many people were saying that simply voting for Democrats was a bad idea because they were no different than Republicans, I thought those people were morons.
But, I have to hand it to them. They were right. Voting for Democrats is too hard. The best way to prevent all this is to rely on military officers to disobey the orders of the commander in chief in order to prevent a potential holocaust and likely world war.
Voting for icky Democrats? Way too hard!
This is why they purged military leaders who would ignore orders from grandpa.
Head over to r/aviation and take a look at what was spotted flying over the UK. If anybody needs to reject orders it’s those pilots
Should we play the Mark Kelly (and others) video once again? Perhaps on a loop.
Duty-bound to say no. That’s the oath. Not loyalty to Trump. To the Constitution.
Key word is retired. Tell me when the active ones say this.
The republican government fired generals loyal to the constitution and the law. To hire ones loyal to their political party in their place.
Dont expect any resistance to illegal orders.
I’d be willing to wager there won’t be a single military officer who rejects a single order, regardless of legality
All the ones who did got fired, so now we’re left with the true believer holy war cultist ones.
If they are trained correctly, a revolt is already underway.
# Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
[https://www.**scientificamerican**.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/)
Trump lied us into a useless war, just like GW Bush.
>“Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?” Trump thundered when asked about his call for then-President George W. Bush to be **impeached**. “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none.”
Here’s what Trump said about Obama (who negotiated a deal with Iran that actually prevented them from working on nuclear weapons):
>“Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He’s weak and he’s ineffective.”
Please, God, save the United States of America from the Christian Conservatives.
The Armed Forces are not going to revolt against Trump’s orders. No matter what Trump decides to do they will obey it is a naive fantasy to think they would act for some theoretical greater good. That America if it ever existed is gone.
Army purge incoming*
Of course military leaders are duty-bound to reject illegal orders – that’s how it is in any country on the planet. The differences only arise when looking at what makes an order illegal. Here the US stands out as one of a few countries where the supreme leader himself ultimately decides which of his orders are illegal…
Neither Trump nor Hegseth is capable of forming a functionally rational view of war with Iran because of the uniquely compelling side issues that are driving each one.
With Trump it’s the need for a diversion from the Epstein files.
And with Hegseth it’s [Deus Vult](https://www.bing.com/search?q=deus+vult+tattoo+meaning&form=ANNTH1&refig=69d5214380e74c26ad2cd24beb4f122a&pc=LCTS&pq=deus+vult+t&pqlth=11&assgl=24&sgcn=deus+vult+tattoo+meaning&qs=MT&sgtpv=MT&smvpcn=0&swbcn=10&sctcn=0&sc=10-11&sp=4&ghc=1&cvid=69d5214380e74c26ad2cd24beb4f122a&clckatsg=1&hsmssg=0) – with the words tattooed on his bicep and the crosses on his chest – taken from the First Crusade of medieval Europeans against the „infidels“ occupying the „holy land“.
„Following the First Crusade, „Deus Vult“ was employed in **crusader banners, battle cries, and religious propaganda**. It served as both a motivational slogan and a statement framing the Crusades as **religiously justified wars**. The notion that God willed their military endeavors reinforced the Crusaders’ conviction that their campaigns had moral and spiritual legitimacy….“
Won’t happen.
The number of random Venezuelans the Trump regime murdered has told me they’ve found enough people in the military willing to go along with their illegal shit to get their illegal shit done.
Maybe that changes when Trump tries to nuke Tehran, or sends the troops into American cities with shoot-to-kill orders. but I’m not counting on it anymore.
Why are people jumping to nukes? The US is perfectly capable of committing mass war crimes with conventional weapons.
As a reminder, Mark Kelly and Democrats are the first to remind our Military of their obligations. Let’s remind ourselves the Pete tried to demote, and prosecute Mark Kelly for saying exactly this. Warning our soldiers that they do have a choice.
I think they’ve removed many of the generals and other high ranking dissenters.
Hasn’t the US military already been doing a lot based on illegal orders? Seems like it’s all talk and very few top officials actually stay true to their duty.
If they’re still there its because they want to be doing this.
I guarantee that Hegseth fired several military officials for refusing to commit war crimes. You know, the same orders Trump and MAGA screamed at democrats for reminding the military that they shouldn’t follow?
The military isn’t even willing to stop ICE from rounding up the spouses of service members. There’s no way they’ll ever stand up to Trump to, for example, stop a bunch of foreign brown people from getting nuked.
The army and serving members are all cowards.
It’s literally up to the military at this point because politicians have completely given up.
People are going to be sad when they realize how much support maga has in the military.
I don’t see our military doing anything to stop this.
At this point, a military coup would be preferable. 💀
Having worked with the military for a few years now. These fuckers will do whatever theyre paid to do. Boss says jump, they just start jumping. The whole point of their training is not to think, just do. Thinking will get you and your buddies killed.