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27 Kommentare
I have a feeling this conflict is going to last awhile. Trump wants total surrender which is something Iran will never do. Immovable object vs unstoppable force.
Escalation
Can’t even be mad at wanting a permanent fix. Temporary ceasefires are basically just glorified reloading screens at this point.
The american century of humiliation begins
Very poor choice of words.
The real problem is, the big buffoon is not clear what he wants. I am pretty sure he has ensured media in his country only speaks language he wants people to hear and his dumbass voters rally behind whatever crap he says and throws.
The real problem is these stupid voters who do not understand what happens when a real clown is elected
A permanent end to a conflict is rare these days.
How is this better than the Obama Iran deal? Answer: It isn’t.
Thousands of innocent people have died as a result of Trump’s war, in addition to US soldiers (13 dead, hundreds injured).
Poor, morally bereft leadership from Trump and his inexperienced and cock-sure stooges.
Iran’s only way out of this war is escalating and making sure it lasts longer than US anticipated. Anything less means reloading with bigger more powerful ammunition for US and Israel… the moment they accept any sort of ceasefire would be the end of regime in Iran…
Not unreasonable in my book.
Y’know, a part of me hopes that Iran will be slightly better whenever this conflict ends. Trump is a clown, but the leadership of Iran are utter bastards and NOT good people.
Goddamn these reasonable demands of theirs! How dare they?!
*preemptive edit: yeah, life is nuanced. But the internet isn’t. Get over yourself.
Will there be a massive battle between 8pm-12am tomorrow or will something change before then ?
It’s a bit rich of Iran to claim they want a permanent end to the war when they’re still going to arm Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthis. A permanent end to the war means those groups all would be disarming.
What Iran means is everybody else stops attacking Iran, but Iran is free to attack Israel or whoever they want, and continue to arm Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas.
The thing is who is going to guarantee permanent ceasefire .. china?
Man what a time to be alive where I have to agree with Iran and disagree with the US…On pretty much a daily basis.
We’re all staring at this bomb with “global world order” taped to it and a countdown clock on top. Trump’s actions have closed the Strait – he basically clipped the wrong wire and the countdown clock sped up.
Let’s just hand over chrump and be done with it?
Trump just might agree if Putin, his master and Xi gang up and apply pressure. Oh, yeah, France recently went against US so Iran have the upper hand here.
„lets have a ceasefire so i can reload all my missiles and bomb you again after this“
The Islamic Republic wants unlimited time so they can build nuclear weapons and start WW3.
It’s one of those things like Russia and Ukraine where I’m like this would be so easy to stop if the aggressor who aggressed unprovoked just stopped aggressing lol
To be clear, „permanent end to this conflict“ is just about Israel and the US not attacking Iran in the future, no matter what. The Iranians have shown precisely zero interest in actually ending the conflict, in the way we understand it. Iran is still very much ideologically committed to permanent hostility towards the Great Satan of the US. It’s still very much committed to the downright elimination of Israel, the Little Satan, and rebuilding is proxy army, and nuclear weapons program, in order to achieve it. They just want a better chance to achieve that later on.
They also demand things like having official control of the Hormuz straits, the US withdrawing from the Middle East, getting compensation for the war, full lifting of the sanctions and so on. Ultimately, they’re the ones dragging on this war at this point, because they feel (probably correctly) that if they just end it as it is, it loses.
Trump right now is desperately attempting to control the narrative, and Iran isn’t having it.
I’m calling it now, Trump’s next move is Hegseth under the bus.
I can’t see the USA pull out without regime change or total controlled disarmament, which they won’t get without boots on the ground.
If they would just pull out it’d give Iran a window of opportunity, and I have a feeling they’d probably, ironically, use it to race for a nuke. Nuclear powers don’t get invaded.
I don’t even think a nuke will stop these guys. A nuke will only justify their cause further.
Cool. Is Iran going to stop funding terrorists all over the globe? Cause if not, then they don’t want a permanent end to conflict.