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33 Kommentare
From China, like the cars with Russian brands? The Chinese keep testing the ground.
Why on earth didn’t they just make an auto loading breech-mortar rather than … a robotic arm?!?!?!?
So?
An ~80mm mortar has a range of ~6000m under optimal conditions (*unless booster-assisted rounds are fired, but this reduces ordnance delivered to target*).
This means even if this demonstrator was mobilized on an armored plattform, it would have to „shoot & scoot“ from areas near the front lines which are saturated with sUAS where survival of armored vehicles is extremely unlikely.
For this very reasons, Russia has mostly stopped to use mobile mid-range fire support systems like the [TOS-1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOS-1) due to their high vulnerability to counter-artillery and sUAS attacks. Instead, it is relying on simplified vintage WW2 designs like the „[Sani](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S12_Sani)“ that are fired out of fortified entrenchments (*production has been resumed since ~2024*).
Besides, automated mortars aren’t exactly an orcish novelty, Poland is fielding the „[RAK](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M120_Rak)“ since ~2018 (*which can also shoot direct fire*). Self-loading mortar designs have been around since the 1970s.
TL/DR: Just another orcish concept study that will never be fielded in sufficient #s. Where Armata?
I’ll admit that’s pretty cool.
What on the Super Earth is the mortar turret doing here?
Oooh, look: The robot is making happy bouncies
1. the “hand” seems to be programmed by someone who doesn’t give a shit: it could have been doing it all in one smooth motion but it does not (hell, it could have been a pure mechanical mechanism (not digital))
2. Look how the whole thing jumps after firing – I bet it does not have any way to correct for how much it gets shifted after firing (especially with Russian GPS being shit
Conclusion: just something to show off while the storm troopers are riding horses into battle
Drone target
So serious question, how accurate is something like this?
That does not look fast enough to outrun a drone, and large enough to stick out to anyone flying over.
Glad they are wasting money on expensive tech that won’t last more than a day or two on the battlefield.
If it’s Russian it should work for a good 15-20 minutes
Nice another wunderwaffe
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Perfect to fight last year’s war
It looks a lot more expensive than an fpv drone
would be a shame if a drone would put some thermites on it..
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Looks expensive
They cant mass produce them and they will break down all the time. Anything russia does is half assed unless they import
Is this not just an AI dream?
Robot arm to wave the white flag when the drones come.
It has to be in the open. And no cope cage because of top loading system.
Nice improvement.
Breaks in 3…2…1…
„The complex is allegedly capable of firing 10–12 rounds per minute, and the reload time is 5 seconds“
But double isn’t it.
Won’t the washing machine PCB it uses make it spin round in a raining death whitewash .
They managed to build 4
Russians love to build experimental weapon systems and then post footage of them in “action” I.e. test conditions. There’s a good reason many military designed weapons are made to be as simple to use as possible cause they need to train 18 yr olds to be able to shoot them.
The more complex the weapon the more time it takes to train a young adult who has just finished high school to use it. Russia seems to have an obsession creating over the top weapons that look impressive but have massive design flaws or require constant maintenance to maintain them. It’s all just one huge propaganda machine made to make the look strong but under battle field conditions this thing would be taken out on a heart beat by Ukrainian drones or HIMARs
Leave it to russians to design and build something totally stupid and shitty…
Why does the arm move like ED-209?
Needs to zero in every round if it bounces around that much.
I mean this thing on its own isn’t a war winner, but I can see the utility, and it can be done relatively cheaply.
A UGV doesn’t necessarily have to be fully automated, or even wireless (a few hundred meters of wire would be decent for creating some standoff between the weapon and the crew, to give them some defense against counter-bwttery fire or drones). Take a basic chassis, stick an existing, basic muzzle-loading mortar on it, a robotic arm with a limited, preprogrammed range of motions, have the magazine setup so the round is in the same location every time, and I can see how this could be used to deploy light mortar fire quickly. It doesn’t have to be super capable or sexy. This looks like a decent way to lay down some mortar fire while increasing crew survival.
It still has vulnerabilities, especially if the arm gets bent/damaged even slightly by a drunken orc operator, but still – the concept is sound.
I would hope that Ukraine and the West take note – simple platforms still have their use, it doesn’t always have to be the best. Good enough is good enough.
Good luck clearing malfunctions.
It’s going to have to drive it all the way back to the rear for someone to clear manually lmao
Why is it too loaded?
Would it not be easier to be a breach loaded small artillery?
Looks weirdly overcomplicated with that arm loading it from the top.
Is it not possible to fire mortar shells like those in any kind of breach?
Edit: seemingly not the only one thinking this, pls ignore this I’ll just look at the other comments