and panama too, if you consider southern panama to be south america
fh3131 on
As for the southern tip of Chile, is there a line cartographers use to determine where it goes from Atlantic to Pacific?
No_Gur_7422 on
The border in this area is just ridiculous.
a_filing_cabinet on
I mean, it depends on if you count the southern ocean, and where you draw that line. Some put it further south than South America, some bring it all the way to Terra del Fuego.
Also, technically what you think is the northern point doesn’t count, since Argentina actually snakes along the coast and faces the open water, so technically Chile only touches the Strait of Magellan, which is neither ocean.
czikhan on
Colombia is the only South American country that touches both the Atlantic and Pacific. Its northern coast is on the Caribbean Sea, which is a marginal sea of the Atlantic and therefore part of the Atlantic itself. Chile doesn’t count because its “Atlantic‑side” territory sits on the Strait of Magellan, a separate named connector between oceans. The Caribbean is like a pullout on the same road, while the Strait is like an alley between two roads.
If that still feels counterintuitive, consider that in international cases before the ICJ, Chile describes itself as a Pacific nation and an obligant regarding Pacific access and has never asserted any claim to an Atlantic coastline.
Kitchener1981 on
Oceanographers recognize the Southern Ocean around Antarctica. Chile is recognized as having an Atlantic Coast, Argentina does not have a Pacific Coast. Cape Horn, is Chilean.
[deleted] on
Panama too!
CounterfeitXKCD on
I think the idea is that Chile touches the Southern Ocean in that spot
Italian_Suicide1365 on
Costa rica?
gracian2x on
Es verdad nos domaron tenía entendido que en el tratado de límites era que ninguno de los dos países iban a tener el otro océano, chile es un país tricontinental con 3 océanos y 3 continentes, siempre a mis amigos chilenos les digo que chile es más grande que argentina y me miran con una cara de sorpresa pero les digo que si uno traza un triángulo entre isla de pascua Cabo de hornos y Arica es mucho lugar, nosotros somos más del caballo los chilenos son más navegantes por eso tienen Magallanes y nosotros no, de echo la frontera para mí es casi perfecta de lo diferente que es cada lado de la, chile humedad argentina desierto menos en tierra del fuego que ahí se mezcla un poco de todo, hubo un conflicto anterior a Malvinas en el 78 por las islas del canal que por la intervención del papá no fue guerra eso puede explicar también sus alianzas yo de mí parte pienso que si argentina y chile se juntan somos potencia mundial al nivel de un australia canadá versión más pobre pero fuerte fuerte
Dagg451 on
While it may be technically correct to say that Chile touches the Atlantic, for diplomatic reasons regarding a certain neighbor this topic will not be discussed any further.
Now in all seriousness, this is a rather touchy subject that frequently surfaces during territorial waters disputes between Chile and Argentina.
pitamakan on
Just for the heck of it, I asked some AI engines if Chile bordered the Atlantic Ocean. Claude and ChatGPT said no, but Gemini and Perplexity said yes. 😆
General-Anywhere7168 on
France , Clipperton Island and Guiana ?
katet_of_19 on
If Argentina drew the map, they’d also touch the Pacific
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and panama too, if you consider southern panama to be south america
As for the southern tip of Chile, is there a line cartographers use to determine where it goes from Atlantic to Pacific?
The border in this area is just ridiculous.
I mean, it depends on if you count the southern ocean, and where you draw that line. Some put it further south than South America, some bring it all the way to Terra del Fuego.
Also, technically what you think is the northern point doesn’t count, since Argentina actually snakes along the coast and faces the open water, so technically Chile only touches the Strait of Magellan, which is neither ocean.
Colombia is the only South American country that touches both the Atlantic and Pacific. Its northern coast is on the Caribbean Sea, which is a marginal sea of the Atlantic and therefore part of the Atlantic itself. Chile doesn’t count because its “Atlantic‑side” territory sits on the Strait of Magellan, a separate named connector between oceans. The Caribbean is like a pullout on the same road, while the Strait is like an alley between two roads.
If that still feels counterintuitive, consider that in international cases before the ICJ, Chile describes itself as a Pacific nation and an obligant regarding Pacific access and has never asserted any claim to an Atlantic coastline.
Oceanographers recognize the Southern Ocean around Antarctica. Chile is recognized as having an Atlantic Coast, Argentina does not have a Pacific Coast. Cape Horn, is Chilean.
Panama too!
I think the idea is that Chile touches the Southern Ocean in that spot
Costa rica?
Es verdad nos domaron tenía entendido que en el tratado de límites era que ninguno de los dos países iban a tener el otro océano, chile es un país tricontinental con 3 océanos y 3 continentes, siempre a mis amigos chilenos les digo que chile es más grande que argentina y me miran con una cara de sorpresa pero les digo que si uno traza un triángulo entre isla de pascua Cabo de hornos y Arica es mucho lugar, nosotros somos más del caballo los chilenos son más navegantes por eso tienen Magallanes y nosotros no, de echo la frontera para mí es casi perfecta de lo diferente que es cada lado de la, chile humedad argentina desierto menos en tierra del fuego que ahí se mezcla un poco de todo, hubo un conflicto anterior a Malvinas en el 78 por las islas del canal que por la intervención del papá no fue guerra eso puede explicar también sus alianzas yo de mí parte pienso que si argentina y chile se juntan somos potencia mundial al nivel de un australia canadá versión más pobre pero fuerte fuerte
While it may be technically correct to say that Chile touches the Atlantic, for diplomatic reasons regarding a certain neighbor this topic will not be discussed any further.
Now in all seriousness, this is a rather touchy subject that frequently surfaces during territorial waters disputes between Chile and Argentina.
Just for the heck of it, I asked some AI engines if Chile bordered the Atlantic Ocean. Claude and ChatGPT said no, but Gemini and Perplexity said yes. 😆
France , Clipperton Island and Guiana ?
If Argentina drew the map, they’d also touch the Pacific