It’s a raging success in my house. I’ve told my kid that he can’t have social media because it’s illegal.
Sensitive_Box_ on
>the eSafety report also shows that there has been no notable change in cyberbullying or image-based abuse reported by children
Oh, *you don’t fuckin say*?!
CEOAmaterasu on
It is always „buuut think about the kids“
it is never like that
Paraphrasing_ on
Social media should be regulated into the fucking ground, by EU. All these bans achieve nothing.
Better yet, crush the advertising industry for all their shitty practices, this and many other problems go away like magic.
ElysiumSprouts on
Seems to me this is the kind of change that is going to take far longer than 2 short years. Disingenuous article.
byjacobward on
It is way, way too early to be concluding anything about it. That nation is about to be the only long-term study cohort we’ll have, but it’s going to take longer than this…
Zieprus_ on
To early to say and the social media companies need to keep improving it. In my house hood it’s been very positive.
oyvey1au on
It’s so cute how people think this is about the government protecting their precious little darlings. This was about the government using children to implement authoritarian surveillance and control of everyone, imho.
RoyalCities on
I don’t understand why these politicians don’t realize the best fix is the simplest.
Mandate ISPs to ship routers with parental controls ON by default which has to be updated when received.
This solves 2 issues.
1. It forces parents to go in and actually change their routers passwords (which strengthens network security for a nation / tech literacy since something like 50% of parents don’t even change their default wifi password)
But also
2. it makes them pick and choose what happens on their own network without destroying civil liberties.
This whole ID thing is nonsense and doesn’t actually solve the issue of social media being a societal problem now.
The long term solution is actually regulating social media companies but until that happens just make parents actually be responsible for their own networks instead of trying to turn a country into a nanny state (while giving even more data and power to the same social media companies who are doing god knows what with their algorithms which got us into this position in the first place.)
Edit: instantly downvoted while giving a practical solution and one that mentions we should instead be regulating social media companies – honestly it feels like every one of these articles that pertain to social media bans are astroturfed.
rezna on
it’s like making consumers think using paper straws does anything useful while everything else in the company uses 10000x the plastic
beelzebroth on
There’s a bit of joy, tbh.
hungry_bra1n on
Better regulation and education would work better
thehippieswereright on
American companies are not going to control themselves, so something has to be done
individualcoffeecake on
Boomers making rules without understanding it again
ArgumentFew4432 on
Who owns the guardian?
Why aren’t the platformed fined?
Lofteed on
I don t believe you
yibbida on
Premature Proclamation
314per on
So many of the problems of new technologies are a result of the demands of private capital to generate profits.
But once these technologies ubiquitous, their justification for being private disappears. We aren’t rewarding innovation or risk-taking at that point, but monopolies and toll-gates.
Once something like a search engine or social network becomes a standard technology, public alternatives should be created. It is almost certainly cheaper to build and maintain a public alternative to facebook than it is to deal with the social harms caused by allowing a sociopathic corporation to prey upon billions of people.
Cybrknight on
It was never about the kids.
Eppo_de_Pep on
social media study in the Netherlands shows kids get dumber, loosing thinking in connections to solve stuff including language and loosing capability to interacts social. this is why the act aggressive if you pointed out something if it is good or bad they act aggressive. Also kids are depress and get bad rates at school because if they must do homework they rather scroll first and then get sleepy or rather playing or watching TV series.
so we get more dumb and anti social people in society that can’t handle stuff and for a few years our IQ and acedemic level going down instead as before up since 1950 and it stopped climbing. Also kids get confused or don’t know how to act by reasonable issues and acting in denial or just don’t understand it.
the brain dots are slowly unwired in our brains to solve, reconize or to rethink solutions etc. It why we called it brainrot or brain degenerative scrolling.
40_ton_cap on
I think the ones who need to help figure this policy out are the kids themselves. I’m too old to know what’s it’s like to exist in their world. There are no recordings of me in my younger years that I was not fully aware of. Kids now have to worry about that. They should be part of the conversation, we tend to try to govern by nostalgia and that does not work so well in this instance.
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It’s a raging success in my house. I’ve told my kid that he can’t have social media because it’s illegal.
>the eSafety report also shows that there has been no notable change in cyberbullying or image-based abuse reported by children
Oh, *you don’t fuckin say*?!
It is always „buuut think about the kids“
it is never like that
Social media should be regulated into the fucking ground, by EU. All these bans achieve nothing.
Better yet, crush the advertising industry for all their shitty practices, this and many other problems go away like magic.
Seems to me this is the kind of change that is going to take far longer than 2 short years. Disingenuous article.
It is way, way too early to be concluding anything about it. That nation is about to be the only long-term study cohort we’ll have, but it’s going to take longer than this…
To early to say and the social media companies need to keep improving it. In my house hood it’s been very positive.
It’s so cute how people think this is about the government protecting their precious little darlings. This was about the government using children to implement authoritarian surveillance and control of everyone, imho.
I don’t understand why these politicians don’t realize the best fix is the simplest.
Mandate ISPs to ship routers with parental controls ON by default which has to be updated when received.
This solves 2 issues.
1. It forces parents to go in and actually change their routers passwords (which strengthens network security for a nation / tech literacy since something like 50% of parents don’t even change their default wifi password)
But also
2. it makes them pick and choose what happens on their own network without destroying civil liberties.
This whole ID thing is nonsense and doesn’t actually solve the issue of social media being a societal problem now.
The long term solution is actually regulating social media companies but until that happens just make parents actually be responsible for their own networks instead of trying to turn a country into a nanny state (while giving even more data and power to the same social media companies who are doing god knows what with their algorithms which got us into this position in the first place.)
Edit: instantly downvoted while giving a practical solution and one that mentions we should instead be regulating social media companies – honestly it feels like every one of these articles that pertain to social media bans are astroturfed.
it’s like making consumers think using paper straws does anything useful while everything else in the company uses 10000x the plastic
There’s a bit of joy, tbh.
Better regulation and education would work better
American companies are not going to control themselves, so something has to be done
Boomers making rules without understanding it again
Who owns the guardian?
Why aren’t the platformed fined?
I don t believe you
Premature Proclamation
So many of the problems of new technologies are a result of the demands of private capital to generate profits.
But once these technologies ubiquitous, their justification for being private disappears. We aren’t rewarding innovation or risk-taking at that point, but monopolies and toll-gates.
Once something like a search engine or social network becomes a standard technology, public alternatives should be created. It is almost certainly cheaper to build and maintain a public alternative to facebook than it is to deal with the social harms caused by allowing a sociopathic corporation to prey upon billions of people.
It was never about the kids.
social media study in the Netherlands shows kids get dumber, loosing thinking in connections to solve stuff including language and loosing capability to interacts social. this is why the act aggressive if you pointed out something if it is good or bad they act aggressive. Also kids are depress and get bad rates at school because if they must do homework they rather scroll first and then get sleepy or rather playing or watching TV series.
so we get more dumb and anti social people in society that can’t handle stuff and for a few years our IQ and acedemic level going down instead as before up since 1950 and it stopped climbing. Also kids get confused or don’t know how to act by reasonable issues and acting in denial or just don’t understand it.
the brain dots are slowly unwired in our brains to solve, reconize or to rethink solutions etc. It why we called it brainrot or brain degenerative scrolling.
I think the ones who need to help figure this policy out are the kids themselves. I’m too old to know what’s it’s like to exist in their world. There are no recordings of me in my younger years that I was not fully aware of. Kids now have to worry about that. They should be part of the conversation, we tend to try to govern by nostalgia and that does not work so well in this instance.