Less censorship? But then how will we become a government mandated utopia?
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HeadBat1863 on
Have we found out which school in Manchester this is yet?
FastStill7962 on
They’re making generations unfamiliar to each other yikes , I’ve noticed this for a while.
OpticGd on
Oh cringe, let’s not remove books that are deemed appropriate by librarians and teachers from schools.
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gracklemancometh on
1984, art books featuring nude sculpture and paintings, and books by LGBTQ+ authors have been removed in the name of decency. Twilight too, presumably because it’s not very good? Which is also not a good reason.
These are books that we need to expose kids to (well, maybe not Twilight. But we shouldn’t hide it from them.)
Adm_Shelby2 on
Depends on the books. Alan Moores „Lost Girls“ is a work of art but has no business being in a school for example.
Conscious-Ball8373 on
I mean, they banned the Twilight series, so it can’t all be bad, right? /jk
Seriously though, no-one seems to have read the article to find out what’s actually going on, including the NEU. What actually happened is that a library audited its collection and moved some books into categories which they considered more age-approprriate. Are we really saying that all children of all ages should be given access to all books with no regard for how appropriate they are to their ages now?
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kanben on
We’ve started censoring the Internet arbitrarily, why not libraries too
aReasonableStick on
There’s currently an AI being used in the USA for the sole purpose of finding books to ban, and I wonder if this school used that same AI. Its no secret that AI is being used for authoritarian processes by the companies that own AI.
Whats been happening in the USA is happening to the UK under the watch of Labour, with the rise in using lawfare to target trans people as an example. If Labour doesnt do anything then if Reform gets into power next they wont need to do much unpopular things because the conditions for it would already have happened by the next election.
Cheap-Rate-8996 on
Something about this reeks of Americanisation. At this rate it feels like we’ll be talking about „constitutional carry“ by the time the next election rolls around.
ShotChampionship3152 on
This makes me grateful that the library at my secondary school (in Hertfordshire, England, around 1970) had a copy of ‚Lady Chatterley’s Lover‘.
And even more grateful that some helpful soul had written on the flyleaf, „The good bits are on pages 61, 83-88, 116-120.“
PomPomBumblebee on
Some people want kids to grow up to be stunted obedient adults than well rounded intelligent and rightly critical thinking people.
RonsonGlitter on
Lefties/ wokesters can’t complain too much here. No, I don’t approve of censorship but then again I don’t approve of pushing indoctrination on kids through books, and if you’re going to be doing that then don’t act innocent when books start getting banned.
FootballFanInUK on
The school did remove the books from the Library, and has not said that it has returned all of them.
The school reported the Librarian to the local council’s safeguarding team. At a closed meeting, two staff members from the school met with two people from the council. They found in favour of the breach of safeguarding as there were adult books in the Library.
The Librarian will not now be able to work in any environment with children. Career over.
Should a secondary school libraries only have children’s books, like the books in a primary school? Were the books you studied in English GCSE lessons adult or kids books?
Ongodsworth on
> The books reportedly included a graphic novel of George Orwell’s 1984, Alice Oseman’s Heartstopper series, as well as Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight books.
Am I being thick as I honestly have no clue what’s wrong with any of these?
Ones about a guy who rebels against a dystopian suppressive surveillance state but fails to escape. Another a coming of age love story and the last one a campy vampire and werewolf novella?!?
The fact one is 1984 is pretty ironic though….
JustUrAvg-Depresso on
Oh ye cos kids are reading anyway. Need to get the rotting brains off the phones
Defiant_Size5991 on
It’s genuinely concerning to see such a broad sweep of books being pulled, from classics to LGBTQ+ authors. This kind of removal feels less about protecting students and more about imposing a narrow worldview. We really should be encouraging critical engagement with diverse ideas, not hiding them away.
Common_Selection_574 on
you know what they say. a book worth banning is a book worth reading.
No_Title_5126 on
Why do right wing freedom movements always involve removing freedoms?
Freedom of speech my arse.
Holiday_Cat_7284 on
The Lowry School is chatting shit. They reported this to the LADO and the safeguarding complaint against the librarian was upheld. Inevitably, she felt hounded out of her job by the accusation of failing to safeguard children. So their statement that they took a few books out and re-labelled them, which is a reasonable measure, falls short of the truth of what actually happened there.
manontherun247 on
We read 1984 in English. At the time I didn’t appreciate it enough
twospoons11 on
I read books to expand my world, and knowledge, and make my own decisions and choices.
Hollywood-is-DOA on
2+2 equals 5, my phone wouldn’t even let me write it the normal way, brought you to by such band books as “ 1984”.
We are heading for the 1984 world, each and everyday.
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Less censorship? But then how will we become a government mandated utopia?
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Have we found out which school in Manchester this is yet?
They’re making generations unfamiliar to each other yikes , I’ve noticed this for a while.
Oh cringe, let’s not remove books that are deemed appropriate by librarians and teachers from schools.
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1984, art books featuring nude sculpture and paintings, and books by LGBTQ+ authors have been removed in the name of decency. Twilight too, presumably because it’s not very good? Which is also not a good reason.
These are books that we need to expose kids to (well, maybe not Twilight. But we shouldn’t hide it from them.)
Depends on the books. Alan Moores „Lost Girls“ is a work of art but has no business being in a school for example.
I mean, they banned the Twilight series, so it can’t all be bad, right? /jk
Seriously though, no-one seems to have read the article to find out what’s actually going on, including the NEU. What actually happened is that a library audited its collection and moved some books into categories which they considered more age-approprriate. Are we really saying that all children of all ages should be given access to all books with no regard for how appropriate they are to their ages now?
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We’ve started censoring the Internet arbitrarily, why not libraries too
There’s currently an AI being used in the USA for the sole purpose of finding books to ban, and I wonder if this school used that same AI. Its no secret that AI is being used for authoritarian processes by the companies that own AI.
Whats been happening in the USA is happening to the UK under the watch of Labour, with the rise in using lawfare to target trans people as an example. If Labour doesnt do anything then if Reform gets into power next they wont need to do much unpopular things because the conditions for it would already have happened by the next election.
Something about this reeks of Americanisation. At this rate it feels like we’ll be talking about „constitutional carry“ by the time the next election rolls around.
This makes me grateful that the library at my secondary school (in Hertfordshire, England, around 1970) had a copy of ‚Lady Chatterley’s Lover‘.
And even more grateful that some helpful soul had written on the flyleaf, „The good bits are on pages 61, 83-88, 116-120.“
Some people want kids to grow up to be stunted obedient adults than well rounded intelligent and rightly critical thinking people.
Lefties/ wokesters can’t complain too much here. No, I don’t approve of censorship but then again I don’t approve of pushing indoctrination on kids through books, and if you’re going to be doing that then don’t act innocent when books start getting banned.
The school did remove the books from the Library, and has not said that it has returned all of them.
The school reported the Librarian to the local council’s safeguarding team. At a closed meeting, two staff members from the school met with two people from the council. They found in favour of the breach of safeguarding as there were adult books in the Library.
The Librarian will not now be able to work in any environment with children. Career over.
Should a secondary school libraries only have children’s books, like the books in a primary school? Were the books you studied in English GCSE lessons adult or kids books?
> The books reportedly included a graphic novel of George Orwell’s 1984, Alice Oseman’s Heartstopper series, as well as Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight books.
Am I being thick as I honestly have no clue what’s wrong with any of these?
Ones about a guy who rebels against a dystopian suppressive surveillance state but fails to escape. Another a coming of age love story and the last one a campy vampire and werewolf novella?!?
The fact one is 1984 is pretty ironic though….
Oh ye cos kids are reading anyway. Need to get the rotting brains off the phones
It’s genuinely concerning to see such a broad sweep of books being pulled, from classics to LGBTQ+ authors. This kind of removal feels less about protecting students and more about imposing a narrow worldview. We really should be encouraging critical engagement with diverse ideas, not hiding them away.
you know what they say. a book worth banning is a book worth reading.
Why do right wing freedom movements always involve removing freedoms?
Freedom of speech my arse.
The Lowry School is chatting shit. They reported this to the LADO and the safeguarding complaint against the librarian was upheld. Inevitably, she felt hounded out of her job by the accusation of failing to safeguard children. So their statement that they took a few books out and re-labelled them, which is a reasonable measure, falls short of the truth of what actually happened there.
We read 1984 in English. At the time I didn’t appreciate it enough
I read books to expand my world, and knowledge, and make my own decisions and choices.
2+2 equals 5, my phone wouldn’t even let me write it the normal way, brought you to by such band books as “ 1984”.
We are heading for the 1984 world, each and everyday.